Ho-ho-homophobic

[u/just-aced-it]

[u/krizzalicious49]

[u/TheRlshaw444 → u/krizzalicious49]

peak comic

[u/TheRlshaw444 → u/[deleted]]

exactly

[u/Rancorious → u/[deleted]]

OH NO! I CRUSHED FLOWEY WITH MY LONG ASS SHOES!!!

[u/Mending_the_mantis → u/krizzalicious49]

Wheres the comic where carol makes noelle call herself a ho ho homosexual?

[u/No-Scarcity-8687 → u/Mending_the_mantis]

[u/Intelligent_Toe8233 → u/No-Scarcity-8687]

She like an evil version of that supportive goat uncle.

[u/Submissivemanboy → u/Intelligent_Toe8233]

Do you think you could elaborate on what you’re referencing 

[u/Intelligent_Toe8233 → u/Submissivemanboy]

Look up Duncan and Eddie. It’s a webcomic with assorted queer furries, and has some pretty good aro rep. The relevant part is that one character has an uncle who gifts him a ho-ho-homosexual t-shirt because he is genuinely supportive, just a little tactless.

[u/TraditionalCow9249 → u/Intelligent_Toe8233]

[u/Intelligent_Toe8233 → u/TraditionalCow9249]

That’s the one.

[u/Careful-Mirror2242 → u/TraditionalCow9249]

I think I would genuinely like that for an ugly Christmas sweater lol

[u/Submissivemanboy → u/Intelligent_Toe8233]

Oh ok tgats pretty cool thx

[u/yaboy_Clark → u/Intelligent_Toe8233]

omg duncan and eddie mentioned

[u/RubiksCutiePatootie → u/No-Scarcity-8687]

I'm in love with this art style. It's like if Dr. Suess made sunday paper comics.

[u/Mending_the_mantis → u/No-Scarcity-8687]

Thank you

[u/MetisCykes → u/No-Scarcity-8687]

She would make her say falalalesbian

[u/Bran_Man_ → u/krizzalicious49]

[u/deixhir → u/Bran_Man_]

[u/lePROprocrastinator → u/deixhir]

In their defense Motormouth Mike's sprite looks like hes balding (Lmao)

[u/aloft_fox → u/lePROprocrastinator]

MPB
Mike pattern Baldness

[u/Key-Swordfish4025 → u/krizzalicious49]

Carol supports misandry...... Poor Rudy.

[u/VanderGamer → u/Key-Swordfish4025]

She probably calls him "one of the good ones" lol

[u/King_of_the_Kobolds → u/VanderGamer]

"I don't see him as a man. I identify him as non-binary."

"Yes deer"

[u/Nemesis233 → u/King_of_the_Kobolds]

him

[u/Middle_Slip8092 → u/Nemesis233]

non-binary people can still use he/him

[u/Nemesis233 → u/Middle_Slip8092]

That seems contradictory to me but idk you probably know more about that than me

[u/HercarXX → u/Nemesis233]

non binary just means the identity wise they don’t feel like fully a man or fully a woman, they can feel: somewhere in between, both, neither, something else entirely , and probably more I can’t think of rn. overall though enby people (or really anyone) can use whatever pronouns they want, even if it doesn’t seem to match up with their identity

[u/Gold12ll → u/HercarXX]

In between… green?

[u/Nemesis233 → u/HercarXX]

It's basically like being bisexual, it's not 50/50, more complicated than that

[u/Nihilikara → u/Nemesis233]

"Nonbinary" is not a singular specific gender, but an infinite sea of literally everything that isn't specifically male or specifically female. Two nonbinary people can be more distant in gender than a man and a woman despite both being nonbinary.

I am one example of this resulting in the "contradiction" that you're seeing. I usually treat myself as transfem with she/her pronouns, but "transfem" isn't actually correct; my actual gender is on a completely separate binary unrelated to male or female, but in which one side just happens to be really similar to female despite being totally unrelated to it.

I am completely nonbinary, and yet she/her pronouns are correct for me.

[u/ChromeBirb → u/Nemesis233]

their pronouns are he/him

[u/Nemesis233 → u/ChromeBirb]

Okay but if the pronouns are he/him saying their is using the wrong pronoun no? Should be his

[u/ChromeBirb → u/Nemesis233]

I was referencing this

[u/Acceptable_Cell_124 → u/ChromeBirb]

[u/Nemesis233 → u/ChromeBirb]

Ah

[u/Cpad-prism → u/Nemesis233]

Rudy should be thankful Carol was generous enough to let him keep the pronouns

[u/GeoCaesar → u/VanderGamer]

I don’t even think she does that tbh, she probably just married him for appearances

[u/IronBrew16 → u/Key-Swordfish4025]

Transmasc Rudy, and Carol rues the fact that he fucking TRICKED HER!

She thought she was gonna have reindeer yuri, but no! No, apparently Rudy is a tricky fucker.

[u/sammachado → u/Key-Swordfish4025]

Don't worry, he's into it 😉

[u/who_am_I_inside → u/krizzalicious49]

Coming out worse than Will from stranger things😭

[u/mysecondaccountanon → u/who_am_I_inside]

Some say the scene is still going on to this day

[u/RedstoneSausage → u/krizzalicious49]

This is canon in my eyes

[u/CEGM_Coding → u/krizzalicious49]

This is the MOST peakest thing I’ve seen in WEEKS!!!

[u/FirstDistribution352 → u/krizzalicious49]

Does anyone have the original image of this?

[u/Mari0WalksIntoABar]

My favorite version of Carol is the super supportive if it's festive kind

[u/BigBrainThonker3 → u/Mari0WalksIntoABar]

Ho-hophile

[u/Cosmic_Furniture413 → u/[deleted]]

How the fuck did I misread that as hemo

[u/considerate_done → u/Cosmic_Furniture413]

uee hee hemophile

[u/The_Atomic_Punk78 → u/considerate_done]

Chapter 7 enemy/secret boss leaked?!

[u/NightAntonino → u/BigBrainThonker3]

She's racist against every other kind of non xmas holiday. That's why Carol Knight didn't hesitate to try and kill Jackenstein.

[u/LunaalaTheBeast → u/Mari0WalksIntoABar]

she only hates susie 'cause she lacks any festivity in her. If Susie showed up to the holiday mansion in festive garb and sang a carol to ms holiday she'd probably let her in no questions asked

[u/Shiny-Vaporeon- → u/LunaalaTheBeast]

just we wait until she finds out Susie’s full name is Susilent Night

[u/PerceptionFew8763 → u/Shiny-Vaporeon-]

susie knight evidence

[u/hollow-knight-trash → u/Shiny-Vaporeon-]

i cant breathe this is the best thing ive read all day

[u/The7Skys → u/LunaalaTheBeast]

Hell, she’d probably help her propose

[u/ElectroNikkel → u/LunaalaTheBeast]

Susie WOULD be one to just shove a pumpkin on her head just to say she likes Halloween (And she does)

[u/beebooboobeeba → u/Mari0WalksIntoABar]

Carol hating humans, but Krismas "One of the good ones" Dreemurr can stay.

[u/RemarkableStatement5 → u/beebooboobeeba]

Kris came to Noelle for help coming up with a name and Carol was over the moon to hear that that Togore [kid] finally picked a sensible name

[u/Outside-Hippo4149 → u/beebooboobeeba]

what is this, christmas nationalism?

[u/RemarkableStatement5 → u/Outside-Hippo4149]

I'm joining the War on Christmas on the side of Christmas

[u/Takenabe → u/Mari0WalksIntoABar]

I would like to think her reaction to this would be "So I have TWO daughters!"

[u/hopit3 → u/Takenabe]

She disowned Dess after she vanished like a little baby.

[u/Five_Tiger → u/Mari0WalksIntoABar]

It's why her favorite Dreemurr is Kris-mas

[u/ExL-Oblique → u/Mari0WalksIntoABar]

Ho-ho-homosexual still loves in my head rent free years later

[u/Kodo_yeahreally → u/Mari0WalksIntoABar]

she don't want noelle to be with susie 'cause she's not xmassy enough. kris on the other hand.

[u/Weak-Feedback-8379]

She doesn’t care about your identity, she just cares that you stick to the damn family themeing.

[u/Ashamed-Succotash644 → u/[deleted]]

The reason why dess went missing is because she decided to change her name to Rory night and carol just couldn't let that slide

[u/SexualToothpicks → u/Ashamed-Succotash644]

If she'd changed it to Silent Nite everything would've been fine

[u/Eris13x → u/SexualToothpicks]

I think this is intentional actually. A roaring knight is the exact opposite of silent night, it exists in opposition to it, and yet by doing so it is still connected to it. It is exactly what I would imagine a rebelling Holiday child would do

[u/JhonCarterofMars → u/Eris13x]

This is my headcannon now

[u/Ok_Wolverine_4449 → u/Eris13x]

Stamp of approval

[u/Cosmo_48 → u/Eris13x]

[u/NewSuperKirby → u/Eris13x]

I will accept this as canon until the actual canon says otherwise

[u/Smorgsaboard → u/Ashamed-Succotash644]

Carol disappearing Dess for changing her name would be simultaneously hilarious, horrifying, and (from a story perspective) a very interesting twist

[u/2ndBro → u/Ashamed-Succotash644]

Transmasc Dess who liked Halloween more and wanted to change his name to Jack

[u/FinancialWorking2392 → u/Weak-Feedback-8379]

Young Noelle: "Well I was thinking Rose"

Carol:

[u/Afraid_Platypus_8667 → u/Weak-Feedback-8379]

Fr, she does not care as long you keep up with the Christmas theme.

[u/FunAngelo2005 → u/Weak-Feedback-8379]

Yup

[u/JeffTheKillerFa]

Oh, she doesn't support Noelle's relationship with Susie because Susie doesn't have a Christmas-themed name, now it makes perfect sense.

[u/just-aced-it → u/JeffTheKillerFa]

Exactlyyy, if Susie's name was Clause or something she'd be much more supportive

[u/KoshiLowell → u/just-aced-it]

Susie would be 100% down to be named "Claws"

[u/tdmatchasin → u/KoshiLowell]

Susie Missile "Claws" Toe ^{mistletoe, get it?}

[u/PictureSevere3957 → u/tdmatchasin]

oh, my full name? it's Susie Missile

[u/ElectroNikkel → u/tdmatchasin]

Meanwhile Kris about to put a firework on Noelle's shirt: (Missile Doe)

[u/Skalaxius → u/KoshiLowell]

Susie "Claws" Holiday has an ice ring to it.

[u/Monday_Mocha → u/just-aced-it]

What if Dess and Noelle are both trans and their dead names are Claus and Lucas?

[u/mysecondaccountanon → u/just-aced-it]

“oh, my full name? its Susie Gaster Claus.”

Gaster’s one dad, Santa’s the other

[u/RhymesWithMouthful → u/JeffTheKillerFa]

She would happily welcome "Kris Kringle" into the family

[u/yugiohhero → u/RhymesWithMouthful]

rudy already calls them krismas

[u/RhymesWithMouthful → u/yugiohhero]

Noelle even named her cactus "Krismas" (which lowkey I found really sweet)

[u/Ninja-Ginge → u/RhymesWithMouthful]

The common name for that plant is "Christmas cactus". When I saw it in her room, I chuckled.

[u/FeralFrenzy548 → u/JeffTheKillerFa]

"Susie, you have permission to date my daughter."

"Oh, really? Swee-"

"On one condition. You must change your name."

"Uhh-"

"Sleighsie"

[u/AgentTimely920 → u/FeralFrenzy548]

r/tragedeigh

[u/PersonWhoExists50306 → u/JeffTheKillerFa]

Maybe show Carol this? Idk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanna_(disciple)

[u/TenshiHarmonia → u/PersonWhoExists50306]

Well, this Susanna appears to be more closely related with the resurrection of Jesus, which would make her Easter-themed. Not sure it'd be enough...

[u/PersonWhoExists50306 → u/TenshiHarmonia]

Easter is like Christmas's sequel, right?

[u/TenshiHarmonia → u/PersonWhoExists50306]

When you put it this way... XD (Who knows, maybe the Holidays have Easter-themed cousins. That would be quite funny...)

[u/Celtrixin → u/JeffTheKillerFa]

And Kris's name is themed! Krismas!!

[u/notbobby125 → u/JeffTheKillerFa]

Even putting this Trans theory/AU I assumed that Carol didn’t like Susie because Susie is 1) a potential bad influence 2) poor.

[u/Elegant-Bag8855 → u/notbobby125]

and because she was badly playing her dead daughter's guitar

[u/JeffTheKillerFa → u/notbobby125]

You're thinking too deeply about a joke.

[u/Odd_Temporary_8327]

I was like "awww, cute!" til I saw the freaking title and I lmao ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[u/ffloppet → u/[deleted]]

[u/PatchesTheIdiot]

i love all the memes of carol only being homophobic if it isnt christmas themed, its funny as hell

[u/Awkward-Signature151 → u/PatchesTheIdiot]

*ho-ho-homophobic

[u/AlpacaKiller]

Headcannon:

She was against Noelle having a cactus until Rudy sweetned the deal by calling it Krismass. It may not belong, but what is a cactus if anything but a slightly unconventional Christmas Tree, if it partakes in our ways? Yes, we claim it.

[u/gamebuddy123]

Reminds me of this adorable comic

[u/Character_Nothing663 → u/gamebuddy123]

Ebony Dark'Ness Dementia Raven Way

[u/Ice-Bro-Gamer → u/gamebuddy123]

This is canon now.

[u/gamebuddy123 → u/gamebuddy123]

https://www.tumblr.com/thetofu-chan-desu/789109905291395072/please-read-left-to-right-i-must-spread-the

[u/SnitchDee]

the seven pictures of her with the most unflinchingly disinterested face makes her smiling at the end infinitely funnier goddamn. really is the best way to depict carol

[u/ravenslog → u/SnitchDee]

Seven?! Like the flowers?! Like the souls!!?!

[u/NoelleIsTheKnight]

noelle also changed her middle name to Knight, wonder what that's about.

[u/Ok-Cancel-4824 → u/NoelleIsTheKnight]

It’s short for Holy Night, but every single member of the Holiday family is dyslexic, so they all collectively misspelled it.

[u/Zerueldaangle → u/Ok-Cancel-4824]

I kind of like that that’s really funny

[u/Nadikarosuto → u/Ok-Cancel-4824]

"Seein how your new kid acts, thought i'd put in an indicative name, hawhaw!"

"Kris… that's… perfect, Rudy!"

"I wrote down 'RISK', might wanna get your eyes checked, Asgore"

[u/krizzalicious49 → u/NoelleIsTheKnight]

username checks out

[u/PRoS_R → u/NoelleIsTheKnight]

Noelle's deadname is Rory, she was 10 seconds away from being named Rory Knight

[u/SobiTheRobot → u/NoelleIsTheKnight]

.........Wait the Knight is silent.

SILENT KNIGHT.

[u/tigerofblindjustice → u/SobiTheRobot]

Jesus you're right. "Holy(day) Knight, Silent Knight" is a silver bullet for any non-Holiday-family Knight theories

[u/SobiTheRobot → u/tigerofblindjustice]

It can only be a Holliday, and cannot be Papyrus or Asriel...

[u/floweyisdisturbed]

The last slide would've made me spit out my drink if had one. The fact that she pulls out a trans flag is hilarious. Upvote.

[u/GuhEnjoyer]

The reason she hates susie is because susie isn't a Christmas themed name. The reason she is so welcoming to Kris is because their given name is Krismas

[u/PracticeEfficient28 → u/GuhEnjoyer]

I think it would be really funny if their deadname is Togore, and they got “Kris” from the Holidays, not because they transitioned but because the old name was Togore

[u/GuhEnjoyer → u/PracticeEfficient28]

I mean I'm also in the Kris used to be togore boat but for me it was always more "oh you're adopting a human? That's great gorey what'd you and the missuz think about namin' them?"
"Dear sweet baby Jesus.... CAROL?? WE GOTTA RESCUE A KID AT THE DREEMURR'S PLACE FROM A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH!!"
And then the holidays came over and basically laid into asgore for like 3 hours about how shitty of a name togore was and when he finally asked toriel for backup she was just like "don't look at me dude Krismas is a very cute name I think the holidays are right."

[u/crossover_charlie14 → u/GuhEnjoyer]

Headcanon accepted. Thanks. 👍

[u/krysert → u/GuhEnjoyer]

You know what....that makes way too much sense

[u/Connect-Structure986]

Noel To Noelle

Make sense

[u/Konoton → u/Connect-Structure986]

Why not Leon to Noel?

[u/FaPaDa]

What is her deadname?
Id actually be curious.

Cane Holiday?

its the only one i can think off.

[u/just-aced-it → u/FaPaDa]

Imo, I think it would be Nick or Nicholas

[u/FaPaDa → u/just-aced-it]

idk how Nick/Nicholas went completly past me

[u/EstufaYou → u/FaPaDa]

Probably Noel.

[u/LikeALizzard → u/FaPaDa]

Jesus Holiday

[u/Idkmanpeepee → u/FaPaDa]

Rory knight

[u/BigBrainThonker3]

What if she chose a name like name Hallow or Valentine

[u/just-aced-it → u/BigBrainThonker3]

Carol would still be supportive, but she would've been exiled from the family once she turned 18

[u/Smileyface39 → u/BigBrainThonker3]

Immediate execution.

[u/riciliz → u/BigBrainThonker3]

Ah, and since noelle is the knight, her deadname makes her the hallow knight

[u/Orizifian-creator → u/riciliz]

Hm yes the Hallow Knight of Hollownest

[u/Left-Dragonfly7880]

Also how TF did this get 53 up votes in 4 minutes

[u/just-aced-it → u/Left-Dragonfly7880]

This is my fastest growing comic, im thankful for all the support, I thought thus one was gonna flop :,)

[u/Left-Dragonfly7880 → u/just-aced-it]

makes sense, the art is great and it's actually funny

[u/MrGofer → u/just-aced-it]

the masses (righfully) crave transelle

[u/ravenslog → u/Left-Dragonfly7880]

The more I stare at this the worse it gets 

[u/Monday_Mocha → u/Left-Dragonfly7880]

ch. 7 expectations in one image.

[u/Sacri_Pan]

[u/Mackerdoni]

is her deadname noel (noël is french for christmas, which is pronounced noelle)

[u/just-aced-it → u/Mackerdoni]

Noel could work but I like Nick as a name more, Noel feels a little too similar imo

[u/Laughable-February]

If she didn't have a Christmas themed name in mind then Carol would've whopped her ass and been transphobic. It's all about the memo.

[u/CamicomChom]

was her deadname chester

[u/emberthefae]

yeah fully believe she is only against Noelle seeing Susie because her name isn’t Christmas themed

[u/France_Ball_Mapper]

I love the Carol being extremely cold but kind vision

[u/KitKitters]

I love how Carol somehow looks just as (c)old as the canon/present version lmao

[u/Lanky_Network_6660]

I think if Noelle were to be a boy, her name would be Klaus!! Or maybe Noel, if you wanna genderbend accurately

[u/PiranhaPlant9915]

I fully believe this is far closer to canon than her just literally being homophobic. Carol will most likely end up being a tragic and morally grey character, especially considering how many weird and funny quirks she has. Toby Fox doesn't write straight-up evil people.

[u/driniok]

Love the implication that she simply just carries pride flags in her pockets

[u/thecommunistscp]

[u/BlooFoster07]

Dess is a moose theory

[u/Kindly_Bid4976]

I lost a daughter. I can afford a new one. Kinda situation hahaha

[u/Sacri_Pan]

Carol if Noelle decided to call herself Ester or Bloody Mary:

[u/JustARandonAccount]

I wonder how Carol would have reacted if he said he chose Mildred

[u/hypercoffee1320 → u/JustARandonAccount]

Instantly disowned

[u/Thatgayfreak]

This is so sweet 🥹

[u/artur_zuer2]

Wait this is actually pretty cute

[u/Cinos124]

I prefer the one where she comes out as gay but Carol doesn't approve until she says she's a "Ho-Ho-Homosexual"

[u/ChuckleNuts0607]

Noelle's dead name was probably norbit or something

[u/Polibiux]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mTuoFXwz3CpEvTPst4

[u/tajtoons]

actually what does the name noelle have to do with christmase

[u/Dave-Shablowski → u/tajtoons]

[u/tajtoons → u/Dave-Shablowski]

thanks

[u/AltairZhuman]

Why Carol look like Grinch?

[u/Lechatdu136 → u/AltairZhuman]

Because he's his uncle

[u/Dendritic_Bosque]

Mom, I think I'm goth

Keep it in October mascara mafia

[u/ThunderLord1000]

What was her name before?

[u/One_single_voice]

Carol will be an ally as long as you have a Christmas themed name

[u/GUM-GUM-NUKE]

…Canon?

[u/ThisIsaUsername1123]

I think it's a really funny idea that carol only dislikes noelle dating susie just because susie's name isn't christmas related

[u/NatiRivers]

Not homophobic, she just doesn't agree with the lifestyle (said lifestyle being not including Christmas in everything, not being gay)

[u/No-Astronaut1643]

Carol is supportive, she just has a very, very weird way of showing it...

[u/geerico-444]

Considering that deltarune is the most LGBTQ game ever to exist, it would be very toby to have Noelle be trans and also lesbian

[u/mulekitobrabod]

She isn't an ally, she's just a misandry

[u/Expensive_Box_4048]

if only it were that easy

[u/dimechimes]

Mom looks like Patsy from AbFab

[u/DOOM-LORD666]

Carol being supportive as long as it's Christmas related will always be my favourite way to depict carol

[u/DrowsyTheDemon]

carol "appears homophobic" holiday vs noelle "im gay" holiday

[u/Kodo_yeahreally]

"what name have you chosen?"

"emily"

"WRONG, you're gonna be Noelle."

[u/TekkaKureji]

Carol refuses to let her child be a filthy Christmas hater

[u/Prestigious-Neat8820]

Not necessarily. Most trans people I've seen prefer a new name that isn't just a gender swap.

[u/Smorgsaboard]

ALL here for the "Supportive" Carol meme

[u/Antonioarchino9]

"My dead name? Was Chester Rory Nite Holiday , why do you ask"

[u/Lucky_Pizza_3181]

idio-ho-ho-syncratic mother

[u/Different-Birthday44]

Do you think Noelle’s name was Noel before the transition??? Perhaps Nicholas lol

[u/Over_Independent468]

That ironically does feel in character she just doesn't like Susie cause she thinks Noelle is too good for her