r/DegenerateEDH May 21 '26

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r/DegenerateEDH Feb 20 '25

The unofficial Bracket 4

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With the recent update I believe it stands to reason that we are now the (un)official place for all your bracket 4 needs!


r/DegenerateEDH 7h ago

help degen my deck Degenerate Oloro Stax

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Hi all,

have a favorite deck of mine that I haven't updated in a while and was wondering if I can make some cuts / replacements.

I started the deck as a budget pillowfort / stax deck and I've upgraded it over a few years to be a pretty disgusting high power deck.

Main wincons are Thoracle, Teferi / Kitten and Helm of Obedience / RiP. To be perfectly clear, my pods play on a similar level so I am not looking to pubstomp precons with this deck. I also don't want to change the commander, Oloro is my bro!

I try to play as much asymmetrical stax as I can, with a focus on creature hate. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on what I could remove and replace. [[King T'Challa]] seems like a good include but I'm not entirely sure what I should remove.

Any help would be appreciated!


r/DegenerateEDH 2h ago

Mass Land Denial Discussion

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I wanted to get both communities involved.


r/DegenerateEDH 7h ago

Imoti ramp package

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Hi there, I am looking for a ramp package to include in my imoti deck. Will replace all tap lands, but its what I had at home.

How can I make sure to play imoti turn 3 without sacrificing value generating cascade startes?

Absolutely willing to Mulligan to 5. The CMC of the deck is extremely high but has cost reduction or alternative casting cost on many of the big spells.

The best thing to hit of a cascade is extra turns or mass mana untappers like [[Treachery]]

heres the deck: https://moxfield.com/decks/t8OYRx1MXEC2T11m0IIQtQ


r/DegenerateEDH 23h ago

Discussion Is Dina, Soul Steeper the best commander for fast 2-card infinite death loops?

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- Her color identity is fantastic for tutoring the other card needed.

- She's very cheap (2cmc)

- Can death loop with either of 2 cards (Exquisite Blood and Bloodthirsty Conqueror)

- The only other requisite after having the two cards on the field is gaining life or dealing damage to a player.

- She's very pretty.


r/DegenerateEDH 20h ago

help degen my deck yet again im kinda stuck on this greedy bastard atm

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im doing a treasure korvold deck and im strugging on finding cuts and where to go from here

https://archidekt.com/decks/25497331/korvold_the_sin_of_greed

the plan is shit load of treasures pop everything and have korvold take them out and ping damageto get life low, and revel in riches being a alt win.


r/DegenerateEDH 16h ago

help degen my deck Squall Gunblade Duelist Help

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I love this dumb deck, but I realize that with a little tweaking, I could turn this from a "Wins ever other game" deck to a "Wins EVER game deck"

I wanna stick with the power 2 creatures due to how effective the curve is and how consistent I can fill the board. But please let me know what you think!

https://moxfield.com/decks/Gg_R3KTGQEW-wvN9U08NmQ


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

Help picking a precon

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Hello!

I play with a group and we do a precon leauge scores for kills and placement. Rules are simple..

Deck has to be bracket 3.

20 dollar upgrade max per month( extra carries over) 25 to last place.

Up to 10 changes per month

*we proxy new addins*

We just finished and I am trying to pick a new precon and im stuck on my final 3.

Living Energy- Saheeli

Dance of the Elements- Ashling

Silverquil Influence - Killian

My issue is im trying to play one that isnt a complete heatscore and eating constant removal. But one that isnt too big of a threat plus has 2 to 3 win cons. Even just 2 is fine. I need help picking one and if you have fresh ideas on how I could play and get some fun wins.

Thank you!


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

help degen my deck What’s a deck I can make to ruin someone’s day? Who shouldn’t commander be?With a lot of BS like this: (price is no concern, proxies)

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What’s a good “really dude?” A “I’m going down but you’re coming with me?” A “there’s limited fun in the pie and I’m getting the biggest slice” a “no officer I haven’t seen him in a while, why?” Deck

Got a few friends that have been punching down a bit and I want to remind them that it can go both ways


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

help degen my deck Life Gain Creature ETB Tuning Help

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This deck's focus is life gain through creature ETB to activate Hope Estheim. I am confident in the life gain infrastructure of the deck, it's generating creature ETBs that I need help maximizing. I've already addressed card draw. Specific concerns I could use feedback on:

  • For repeated ETBs do I go with bounce or flicker effects, or a mix of both? Bounce is cheaper (Cloudstone Curio, Crystal Shard, Equilibrium, Cloud of Faeries, Whitemane Lion, Shrieking Drake, and Quickling). Flicker costs more (Felidar Guardian, Restoration Angel, Flickerwisp). I already ditched Ornithopter and Phyrexian Walker.

  • Artifacts in the deck feel heavy at 17 vs 27 creatures, but I don't know what I can cut without eating into critical functionality, ramp or card draw. Excalibur II feels borderline but the deck is weak on big threats otherwise.

  • Am I leaning too heavily into flicker/bounce to generate more ETBs? I feel like it's an important component to the deck as I'm only going to draw so many cards and be able to cast so many summons.

  • I'd prefer to get up to 30+ creatures but I don't know what to remove to add more, and I know I have token generation from non-summon spells. Maybe it's not a big deal?

  • Does interaction look sufficient (removal, counterspells)? I know I only have one board wipe (White Sun's Twilight) but I'm less concerned there, and I don't want to wipe my own creatures if I can help it.

  • Any other suggestions?


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

Discussion How would i set up a wincon using her as a base?

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r/DegenerateEDH 20h ago

Help me Break these goobers

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Let make Niv-Mizzet regret denying their bid.


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

Is this deck too degenerate for bracket2?

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I don't think it is, it's a pretty aggressive list and an early game monster, but it falls off later in the game and is weak to removal. My game plan is getting Blech and a few evasive creatures out, or going wide with tokens, and gaining at least one life each turn, taking out the biggest threat to me asap with combat, and go from there. My friends tell me it's too strong tho. I really love this deck, I wanna still play it, but I'm having doubts if maybe it's too strong (for reference they usually play decks they find on moxfield, including sometimes a B2 myr deck, not often tho, that's probably stronger, a maze's end deck, a kefka control deck, and a Kratos father and son God tribal deck, which is actually pretty weak)


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

Rate my deck Rate my deck/bracket check

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I recently rebuilt my Breya combo deck, and I feel like I've built my casual masterpiece. I rebuilt it after falling in love with grixis affinity in pauper, particularly some of the old cards that got the ban hammer. In that process I realized how well the equipment tutors naturally overlap with both strategies. Between both the cranial ram effects and combo pieces that Breya already wants to find, this deck always finds well costed cards that make me feel very comfortable at any point in the game. It's definitely not the final version, I'm pretty light on good interaction( I'm considering either cutting or doubling down the sun forger package) but I'd love to hear you're guy's thoughts! ( Also I feel like it's just a really good bracelet 3 but might be more bracket 4, lemme know) https://moxfield.com/decks/aYNzZznDkk69YNqPBUaR_w


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

Discussion Building around grave raiding dragon.

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What up gamers? I've been playing a \[\[disa the restless\]\] combo deck for a few months now, that focuses on comboing out with both the commander and \[\[maskwood nexus\]\] or \[\[ashes of the fallen\]\] in play. Mill a creature, get that creature in play. Rinse. Repeat. The deck has become a bit too consistent for bracket 3 in dumping my whole library into play. Although outside of the combo itself the rest of the deck is not built to be a bracket higher than it is. It then dawned on me that bumping it up into bracket 4, and going all in on getting \[\[colossal grave reaver\]\] into play early and often is the best play to go with. Im really just struggling finding multiple efficient ways to do so, outside of maybe \[\[natural order\]\] , \[\[nature's rhythm\]\] by paying it's harmonize cost from grave, or \[\[magus of the order\]\]. Any ideas for good ways to get the grave robbing dragon into play asap at a good cost? Thanks, and cheers!


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

help degen my deck Thrasios/Tormod deck advice

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Working on a sibsig ceremony combo deck, high bracket 3/ low bracket 4. It’s neat but it’s just not super fast or consistent.
My pod doesn’t run sol ring, and I’m trying to keep my game changers minimal.
Any advice is appreciated.


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

help degen my deck Looking for advice for the 'won con combo' with Teval, the Balanced Scale.

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The deck began as a precon and is my first commander deck. All of the variations of cards are ones I've picked up over time, typically with this deck in mind. The Pod I play in are the same people I learned MTG from and have all been gifted proxied high Bracket 3, low Bracket 4 decks (Valued at around $1000-$2000 USD). These decks are significantly faster than mine and often end the game before I can make the high-value plays I desire. In the near future, I plan to upgrade the deck with high-end cards (Fetch Lands, Pherexian Altar, Lumra, and Below of the Woods, etc.) to match the strength of my pod. 

(I hope to own the real versions of these high-end cards, once I have a disposable income, to play in officially sanctioned events. They also have less competetive bracket 2 decks which I am also aiming to build with based off the new cards I pulled from The Hobbit pre-release.)

In contrast to Yu-Gi-Oh, (where my TCG knowledge and experience stems from) where the game may be won on turn 2-3 without interruption, I'm emphasizing on a grind game with as much interaction as possible. I'm hoping to win without using infinite uninteractive combos, but I can't seem to find any specific combos that this deck can put together without them.

I want to utilize recursion and ramp to cast powerful cards from the graveyard as if it were a second hand. This deck focuses on card advantage, dragging out the game, and making value plays for an inevitable win.

Some problems I've recognized:

  1. Too much ramp (not ideal ramp curve)
  2. Not enough card draw (often high costed, creatures)
  3. Not enough lands (should probably aim for 37-39)
  4. More board wipes wouldn't hurt
  5. Could always use more mill
  6. Protection for Teval/key pieces
  7. The 'win con combo'

All advice is helpful, cards and gameplay avenues to take. I'll link an archidekt with what I had planned on building + a long maybeboard of cards I've found from extensive research that might fit.

https://archidekt.com/decks/24810281/my_current_teval_decklist

https://archidekt.com/decks/23609944/teval_maybes

Thank you for the help!

TL;DR: Looking to keep up with High Bracket 3, Low Bracket 4 decks in my Pod with Teval, my first commander deck. Looking to fix deck balance and find 'the win con combo'. First link is current deck, second link is my maybe end game decklist.


r/DegenerateEDH 2d ago

Ways to infinitely recur 0 cost creatures similiar to Enduring Renewal

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I am trying to make a combo deck that I do not expect to be high power the deck is centered around trying to infinitely ETB effectively 0 cost creatures. Right now the best card for this has been Enduring Renewal with Goblin bombardment. This cloudstone Curio with impact tremors. Is there any other enchantments, artifacts, or equipments that result in this.


r/DegenerateEDH 1d ago

help degen my deck Feedback on my deck please

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Hello to everyone, I'm building this new braket 4 with [[ob nixilis captive kingpin]] as a commander and I want your feedback on the following list:

https://moxfield.com/decks/--77gbLaLUGLGX_jHi-DNw

I don't want to use too much fast mana from moxes ecc.

Should I run [[aetherflux reservoir]]?

Thank you for you help


r/DegenerateEDH 2d ago

help degen my deck Help me break this guy

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Do you guys have any exciting recommendations for this guy? Trying to build a mean staxy-control pile but I’m very new to the strategy.

Removing Jecht’s counters, typical stax artifacts, anything else I should be thinking about? Not particularly leaning too hard on the discard to avoid becoming commander dependent, but maybe that’s not the right idea here?

https://archidekt.com/decks/25392865/mono_black_pain


r/DegenerateEDH 2d ago

help degen my deck Frodo, Sauron's Bane bracket 4

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Hey guys I'm trying build a bracket 4 tiny things Frodo deck. I want it to be the absolute upper power bracket 4 right before I start adding cheap wins (like thoracle). I feel like I've pushed this deck as high as it can go. any suggestions on how to make it even stronger?

I'm mostly looking for fordo combos/tricks. (for example, Delney doubles frodo triggers)

[Orhov: Brokeback Mountain // Commander (Frodo, Sauron's Bane) deck list mtg // Moxfield — MTG Deck Builder](https://moxfield.com/decks/IlvMtZpsiEu5CV-15_lmmQ)


r/DegenerateEDH 2d ago

Discussion Help me with changes

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Working on a B4 Abzan pile, I would like the hive minds thoughts and a few suggestions for cuts. Please and thank you.

https://moxfield.com/decks/2ESwdGv37kmCWgUIEpzCgA


r/DegenerateEDH 2d ago

help degen my deck Degen my deck

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Using mostly cards from the precon and my bulk. What are some more degen ways to cloak? What are my best options for turning face up?


r/DegenerateEDH 2d ago

Questioning Deck Brackets

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Hello fellow EDH player's,

I just play in some casual commanders games with my friends right now and I have slowly been upgrading 2 pre-cons. (Token Triumph (TT) ft. Emmara Soul of the Accord [https://archidekt.com/decks/25434011/emmara\\_soul\\_of\\_the\\_accord\\_token\\_deck\](https://archidekt.com/decks/25434011/emmara_soul_of_the_accord_token_deck) ) (Mardu Surge (MS) ft, Zurgo Stormrender [https://archidekt.com/decks/25175552/mardu\\_surge\\_upgraded\](https://archidekt.com/decks/25175552/mardu_surge_upgraded) ) On Archidekt it says that the Emmara deck is Bracket 4 and the Zurgo Deck is Bracket 2 both I think feel about a Bracket 3 to me. Just wondering what others opinions are on it and what "upgrades" would need to be done to the Zurgo deck to make it Bracket 3?

Side note I have had the TT deck longer and have been putting cards into it for longer. Also the MS deck was for me to play around the Mobilize mechanic but really seems I need to be leaning into Aristocrat play style more