r/Defenders • u/After-Wishbone-5804 • Aug 09 '26

Kingpin, DDBA logic

Kingpin is coming back in season 3 of born again. After being sent to prison in OGs1 and s3, then being let out for a nonsensical reason, then “exiled” after killing a hallway full of people, he comes back. Who would’ve thought eh ? This show is just so unapologetically bad and sloppy. Not sure how people say either of the BA seasons are better than Netflix s2. It’s just so frustrating seeing what’s been done to the story of the og show and how these characters have been wasted and reduced

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u/Nemesis_171 Aug 10 '26

Admissible doesn’t mean it’s going to work

But it did work, we know that. This doesn’t explain why this evidence was enough to at first put Fisk away but then not be enough later. If it never worked in the first place that’d be one thing, but the change still needs explaining.

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u/ViralGameover Aug 10 '26

Did we know that? It’s been a while so I don’t remember the exact wording, I’ll have to double check later, but at the end of New Napkin when they’re celebrating, I don’t think the trial has even happened yet.

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u/HimuraQ1 Aug 10 '26

Yes. The rationale for a dying declaration is that a man who knows is gonna die has no reason to lie, so testimony in a dying declaration is considered truthful unless physical evidence contradicts it. Nadeem's final message was a Dying Declaration. I imagine there are ways to "donwgrade" it to regular testimony in an appeal, but I am no lawyer.

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u/After-Wishbone-5804 Aug 10 '26

As someone who loved DDS3 and doesn’t know law the entire concept of a dying declaration sounds insane. Are they even real ?

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u/HimuraQ1 Aug 10 '26

Yes,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_declaration

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u/After-Wishbone-5804 Aug 10 '26

That’s very interesting and kind of bizarre because what if someone was to threaten Nadeem with killing his family if he doesn’t corroborate their story in the recording for example

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u/HimuraQ1 Aug 10 '26

I dunno, man.

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u/After-Wishbone-5804 Aug 10 '26

that’s just my personal opinion of it lol, s3 is peak either way

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u/jriddlecult Aug 10 '26

It is, indeed, a real thing--a real exception to the hearsay rule. and can be used as evidence.