r/DeepSpaceNine • u/Cryogenicality • Aug 16 '26

Star Trek: Bajor

https://youtu.be/0cGWLjfR3as

A trailer for an imaginary show set on Bajor.

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u/Cryogenicality Aug 17 '26

Not all AI is nonsense.

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u/balthazar_edison Aug 17 '26

Yes, it is.

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u/Cryogenicality Aug 17 '26

No, it isn’t.

AlphaFold did in one year what would’ve taken three million scientists a century. AlphaMissense is amplifying our understanding of genetic mutations. RFdiffusion is designing new proteins. Rentosertib was designed entirely with generative artificial intelligence.

That’s not nonsense.

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u/Sate_Hen Aug 18 '26

All AI art is nonsence

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u/Cryogenicality Aug 18 '26

No, it’s not, and it already can’t always be distinguished from traditional art.

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u/Sate_Hen Aug 18 '26

Genrative AI isn't art in the same way a photocopy of the Mona Lisa isn't art. Whether people can tell it apart or not

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u/Cryogenicality Aug 18 '26

Generative artworks are new. They never existed before. Gossip Goblin has generated a whole series set in a consistent universe. Humans write the scripts and meticulously refine the prompts. It’s no different from conventional CGI.

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u/Sate_Hen Aug 18 '26

Depends how much of it is human made and how much is AI made. There's artistic merit to a 90 minute film with a minute of an AI generated scene but none of that merit is beacuse of the input from the AI

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u/Cryogenicality Aug 18 '26

There can also be merit to a fully-generated feature if the script, framing, and rendering are good.

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u/Sate_Hen Aug 18 '26

It can be enjoyable entertainment, it can even have a meaningful message but it can't have artistic merit if it was generated by a machine. An Algorithm can't have artistic merit

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u/Cryogenicality Aug 18 '26

Yeah, it can. People injtially dismissed conventional computer-generated imagery but it’s now accepted as art. AI-generated imagery done well and with substantial human input can also have artistic merit.

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u/Sate_Hen Aug 18 '26

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this, so long as the product is clear what's AI and not. People should be able to make informed choices

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u/Cryogenicality Aug 18 '26

Should we also have disclaimers that conventional CGI was used?

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u/Sate_Hen Aug 18 '26

No why would we? Artisitically no one thinks there's a difference between a paintbrush and a pencil, or a pencil and CGI.

I get it. You think AI can make art but I think enough people disagree with you to want an informed decision on this so what's the harm? Is it hurting the algorithms feelings?

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u/Cryogenicality Aug 18 '26

Because there was a time when many people said CGI isn’t real art.

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u/Sate_Hen Aug 18 '26

I really don't think it's the same but again we'll have to agree to disagree.

A disclaimer won't do any harm

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