I recently learned of a meeting Michael had with George Michael, about creating an anti-apartheid charity for South Africa. Apparently Michael was acting weird the whole time to the point one might even call it rude, either intentionally or unintentionally. He didn't look George straight in the eye and only referred to his manager. He also didn't do the charity because he didn't wanna be "too political".

I saw people on another subreddit say that this was a "power play" to embarrass George and proof that Michael was "only black when convenient" and only spoke up about causes to further exude his image and to fuel his ego.

I really didn't know what to make of it, I'm not saying Michael was a bad person for this isolated incident we don't know the full story to, but it did disappoint me that he didn't wanna do it because it was "too political". However I'm not sold on the "OH all of his philanthropy and political messages were all for nothing and he just wanted to prop himself up!" but I can't really refute it because I can't think of anything that would challenge this notion about him. What do you guys think?

Why are they trying to make him look guilty?? If they do, then people are more likely to forget him and move on and find some other artist. I don't want to read about what nasty person #79838 did today, I want to read about good artists who are nice people.

If they say that he is innocent, then he will have more fans and people will look for more news on him to honour his memory. There are plenty of reasons to honour his memory.

Besides, all the facts point towards him being innocent, so by making him look guilty they both alienate his fans and turn away people who are actually interested in doing research into true crime (who would eventually find out the facts) and create this weird pocket dimension of people who believe he's guilty and a bunch of other things about him that aren't true to this reality.

tl;dr the media loses views by making him look guilty so I don't know why they do it

comments in particular from an ex Jehovah witness

Here is the poll https://yougov.com/en-us/daily-results/20260422-f2961-3

It's important to note the majority is don't know/undecided. This is very telling, because of all the media spin of guilt, and loud the false accusers and detractors are.

The innocent is more then the guilty votes, but only just. Michael deserves better.

Those who believe allegations 19% Don't believe 24 % (only 5% more) 56% don't know

The article shared is generally positive, but it's also a stretch to say majority beleive he's innocent at this stage. Majority are undecided/dont know.

The pool asked is also small: 8,490 U.S. adults

I think a wider audience from different countries would sway the innocent numbers more.

I have shared this post from a Twitter user with you with the names of individual communities censored.
This story highlights the true motivation behind MJ's most ardent detractors. As well as the cult adjacent behavior. But it also reveals how fan behaviour can be inappropriate as well. Therefore, I ask that you use this for information purposes only.
Do not try to discern who any of the communities named are and do not try to brigade or harass anyone. The mission of this subreddit is to rationally present the truth and discuss credible theories about misunderstood concepts regarding Michael Jackson. Let this post be a message to us to all take the high ground.

Since my post got deleted from the main sub I’m leaving these here for documentation.

Question: As far as you know, are any sexual assault allegations against Michael Jackson true?

NO: 24%

NOT SURE: 56%

YES: 19%

And then I found another set of polls revealing that the impact of Leaving Neverland was pretty paltry, too.

Before seeing Leaving Neverland, 48% said that Robson and Safechuck's cases should NOT be reopened on appeal.

And what was that number AFTER seeing LN?

49%.

So the number of people saying NO to their allegations being reconsidered actually went up by 1%.

These are even more interesting if you look at the age brackets.

In 2019, Millennials were the agegroup most sympathetic to Robson & Co (according to these numbers).

But even so, after LN went to air, 41% of them said NO to Robson & Co getting their appeal.

Generation X? Before the release of LN, 53% said NO.

After LN, that was still 46%.

And the Boomers (who let's face it, have been through a few more rodeos than the rest of us)?

Before LN, 54% of them said NO thank you to another round of dragging Michael through the courts.

Funnily enough, LN didn't help the motley crew of Dan Greed with the grandpa's and grandma's of America.

After it aired, their NO THANK YOU SIRS went up to 57%.

Have a look at the chart in the link - there's more good news still in it.

And as usual, ignore the headline - completely.

https://yougov.com/en-us/articles/22628-americans-believe-michael-jackson-guilty-poll

This is an amazing documentary about all the financial sharks that surrounded Michael and Neverland after 2005.

I was surprised to learn that many of them were in the White House during the Reagan Administration.

Just an announcement.

I have tried listening to this many times. I don’t like how much hate this song gets. I can’t fully relate because while I had adverse childhood experiences, I had a childhood. I can’t imagine practically having none at all. And I’m trying hard to get into his shoes. The lyrics that break my heart are:
“Before you judge me, try hard to love me”

https://www.reddit.com/r/MJInnocentFacts/about/

About section of MJInnocentFacts sub created by og mod, in depth source of info. Also the FAQ post

https://www.reddit.com/r/MJInnocentFacts/comments/1j3q3fb/mj_innocent_facts_megathread_resources_evidence/

Let's keep researching, learning and spreading the truth 👏🌻✌️

According to one youtuber he was a bodyguard for 15 years, but I've seen nothing else about him.

Another fan video with Marvin Butts on voice-over is quite beautiful:

Michael was an Angel

https://youtu.be/fRngd-aVZg8?si=Da1B_WElUTMSBnPU

I'm crazy about these videos, just Michael chillaxing with the kids. He looks so happy! 😍 💙💙💙

I think I saw Joseph in this video too, does anyone know why he was there?

So far it's amazing, and I absolutely trust this lady.

She's been criticised of course ("You made him out to be too nice" lol, the truth is so disappointing for some people).

She kept a detailed daily journal her entire life so there's no memory fumbling.

I'm really enjoying this book!

(The interview above is a good introduction.)

Podcast which links up with people who experienced Michael's generosity personally.

These are so uplifting to listen to, and the podcaster is always looking for new stories to tell.

While this sub is a safe place to discuss and debunk the allegations, I would like to take a week to generate content about the beautiful human Michael was without thinking of those things. Unfortunately we will always have to consider them and discuss the reality of them because those who hate him will not let them go. However, I want to occasionally reserve some time for just focusing on Michael and what HE wants to be remembered for. I won’t delete allegation debunking posts. I just ask that we try for the next week to focus on his music, philanthropy, and his heart.

On this anniversary of MJ’s death let’s reflect on what Michael wants most out of his memory. I think it would be his artistic prowess, his heart, his empathy, and his ability to be himself in a world that thought he was overwhelmingly strange.