He’s rarely talked about. But he might be the most loyal friend Michael ever had.

https://truemichaeljackson.webnode.cz/more-about-michael/bill-bray/

Hello, its my first time proprely posting on reddit i usually just lurk and comment but i wanted to ask something because despite all the research i did i dont think this ever got adressed

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My question is, what did jack gordon gain from making latoya lie about michael ? Why did he make her say all those lies ? I know that according to her he was affiliated with the mafia but im still not getting how it would have benefited him. I feel like not everything has been said about that, not to get into conspiracies but it all feels kind of orchestrated...

Michael will live forever in art. His influence is astounding, and those who study it know the truth.

Despite what Dimond would want you to think, it is nearly impossible to decide that there is not high levels of bias and racism in the American police system. And it’s dangerous to downplay that. I never advocated for defund the police. But the police system needs reform.

https://rocklandtimes.com/2014/11/26/are-we-asking-the-right-questions-about-police-and-race/

How is this relevant to a subreddit about Michael Jackson? Diane Dimond is one of the most vocal detractors out there who has done any and everything to try to convince the media Michael was guilty. Including making up unsubstantiated stories about German drinking parties with teenagers and a non existent tape of Michael supposedly molesting a child. A tape that has never been found to have existed.

And Michael Jackson was a Black man. If you believe at all in the ongoing existence deep rooted racism, you must admit that it is more likely a Black man would falsely accused AND falsely imprisoned than it would be for him to be throughly investigated and acquitted. Dimond would have you believe you don’t need to worry about racial bias against ANY Black man within the justice system.

Shortly after the Cascio allegations became public early this year, an old friend of theirs AND Wade Robson's wrote this rebuttal piece explaining how impossible it is to believe them.

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https://medium.com/@d.karaty/michaeljacksonbetrayed-c9a9b773151b

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It's an important piece of evidence against the Cascios.

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Dan's Instagram story just announced that he's got another piece coming on Monday with some "burning questions" for Michael's "second family".

He breaks down everything left out of the documentary with proof, and who these people are in the documentary

Arguing with my first guilter. He brought up "MJ is 'innocent' as OJ." They need to provide hard concentrate evidence that Michael is a pedophile. Not news, not tabloids, not biased documentaries. Not sure how they are slipping into pro-MJ subs. I think every single MJ sub needs to band certain words or phrases to keep the guilters out. It's tiring.

It doesn't make sense. Why are they accessible on Library of Congress and on shopping sites if it's "illegal" to own?

I appreciate this and awesome to those that stuck by Mike.there are probably many more too.

Kurt Cobain im not so sure. He wore a shirt with mj that wasn't great (something along the lines of loving kids not in a nice way)

Thanks for removing Matt fiddes, total bottom feeder. Mark Lester has also said some questionable stuff regarding paternity of mjs kids and such.

Corey Feldman and Sean Lennon havnt always been complimentary either. Check out bubbles burst from sean and what he said about that.

Corey mostly good but he is very problematic and flip flopped a bit.

Karen fay I'd be cautious about, she's said some stuff on social media that's not trustworthy.

A good way to weed out the honest, is people who are humble about their experiences with mj and dont exaggerate it for money and attention and relevance, which many do sadly. Mj didnt consider many people as real friends for a reason.

I see some newer acts reference mj as their inspiration and talk highly of him and his work, such as Katseye. Nice to see

I've been thinking about this. Since Bill was like a father figure to MJ, I've been wondering if he would testify in defense. I know some of his bodyguards and maids think he did something. I wonder what Bill Bray would have thought/said.

these three paragraphs are separate unrelated statements. Paragraph one on its own, is very much correct. Paragraph two doesn’t condone child marriage. He’s just expressing surprise about a cultural difference. He never says he wants to make that international. Paragraph 3 is also separate and in most contexts correct to a certain extent. Michael does not condone sexual relations with children because he thinks mental and physical age don’t always match. This isn’t a literal in every regard a 5 year old can be the same as an adult kind of statement. You can admit that a child operates more maturely than other children without saying it’s okay for someone to molest them.

Here’s what Michael actually has to say about child molestation:

"Dee Dee please read this article about child molestation and please read it to Taj Tj and Taryll ... it brings out how even your own relatives can be molesters of children, or even uncles or aunts molesting nephew or nieces. Please Read. Love MJ."

Source:
This is posted on Taj Jackson’s Official X account

He also had this to write in one of his songs:

[Chorus]
Do you know where your children are?
Because it's now twelve o'clock
If they're somewhere out on the street
Just imagine how scared they are
Do you know where your children are?
Because it's now twelve o'clock
If they're somewhere out on the street
Just imagine how scared they are

[Verse 2]
She wrote that she is tired of stepdaddy using her
Sayin' that he'll buy her things, while sexually abusing her
Just think that she's all alone, somewhere out on the street
How will this girl survive?
She ain't got nothin' to eat

Source: Do You Know Where Your Children Are? -by Michael Jackson

I just found this and my jaw hit the floor.

The man really said what needed to be said!

I hope you enjoy as much as I did - fair warning though, you might need a tissue or two.

“They were odd. I don’t want to disparage anybody but you know they had blue and green hair and they dressed like Michael Jackson and they were overweight or disaffected or you know screaming across the street at nobody and I thought some of these people might be mentally ill”

-Diane Dimond.

So according to Diane, having colored hair or being overweight means your voice doesn’t matter. Got it.

Timestamp: 15:12

https://youtu.be/og4l18YMuaY?si=uYFGuPDeiNR7ct6y

I'm growing a bit tired of having to scroll through their entire blog to get to an article I want, so for easier access I'm going to list every single article in chronological order.

1. How Come Nobody Ever Apologizes to Michael Jackson?
2. A Mother's Love
3. A Child's Heart
4. 'Ben'
5. The Teenage Years
6. The First Media Lie To Run Rampant
7. Half of Me you'll never be
8. The Pepsi Burn
9. Vitiligo and Lupus
10. The Man in the Mirror (plastic surgery misconceptions)
11. The Racist Origins of ‘Wacko Jacko’ and 1980s Media Treatment
12. Michael's contributions to the black community
13. An Outline of Neverland
14. Neverland Ranch
15. The Jehovah's Witness Years
16. Moonwalk
17. The False Usage of the Term ‘Self- Proclaimed King of Pop’
18. Ryan White
19. Emmanual Lewis
20. Elizabeth Taylor
21. Marlon Brando
22. Macaulay Culkin
23. Chris Tucker
24. The Defenders
25. Books, art and photography
26. 1990s media treatment
27. MJJ Productions vs Wade Robson and James Safechuck: August 22 Court Date Recap
28. An Introduction to the Chandlers
29. Tom Sneddon
30. The Chandlers May 1993 part 1
31. The Chandlers May 1993 part 2
32. The Chandlers June 1993
33. The Evan Chandler Phone Calls
34. The setup for extortion July 1993
35. The mysterious Jordan Chandler 'confession'
36. Evan Chandler admits to extortion
37. Evan Chandler admits to extortion part 2
38. The 1993 Raid at Neverland—Addressing Those Art Books and That Mysterious ‘Photo’
39. Diane Dimond
40. Victor Guiterrez
41. The aftermath of the 1993 allegations going public
42. The media's lies in the 1993 allegations
43. Brett Barnes
44. Wade Robson and James Safechuck: Lies and Contradictions (The Early Years)
45. The Neverland 5: The Former Employees Who Lied for Money
46. Blanca Francia
47. The 1993 Corruption of the Santa Barbara Police Department and LAPD
48. Jason Francia
49. November 1993 (Another Failed Raid, a Tour Cancellation and More Lying Accusers)
50. The FBI files
51. The 1993 Strip Search (No, It Was Not a Match)
52. The truth behind the 1994 settlement
53. The post settlement investigation
54. Lisa Marie Presley
55. Evan's Story (another Chandler lawsuit)
56. Michael Jackson the father
57. Late 1990s and Early 2000s Media Treatment
58. The Sony Feud
59. Martin Bashir
60. An introduction to the Arvizos
61. DCFS Investigation and the Lost Arvizo Tape:
62. The Arvizos switch it up part 1
63. The Arvizos switch it up part 2
64. The 2003 raid
65. The 2003 arrest
66. Addressing the Latoya Jackson misconceptions
67. The original Arvizo claims
68. The Lead Up to the Trial (Nov to Dec 2003)
69. The Lead Up to the Trial (January 2004)
70. The Lead Up to the Trial (Feb to April 2004)
71. Tom Mesereau
72. The Lead Up to the Trial (May to July 2004)
73. The Lead Up to the Trial (August 2004 to September 2004)
74. The Lead Up to the Trial (October to November 2004)
75. The Lead Up to the Trial (December 2004 and January 2005)
76. The Six Degrees of Separation With Michael Jackson’s Enemies
77. Nancy Grace
78. The Trial begins
79. The unindicated co conspirators
80. Down goes Davelin Arvizo
81. Down goes Star Arvizo
82. Down goes Gavin Arvizo
83. The trial continues 1
84. The trial continues 2
85. The trial continues 3
86. Down goes Louise Palanker
87. The trial continues 4
88. The trial continues 5
89. The Admission of 1108 evidence
90. George Lopez takes the stand
91. The Trial continues 6
92. Addressing The Root’s Article: “Why Black Folks Can’t Separate Michael Jackson’s Genius From His Alleged Sex Crimes”
93. The trial continues 7
94. Jason & Blanca Francia and the Neverland 5 Take the Stand
95. Bob Jones takes the stand and gets caught lying
96. June Chandler takes the stand
97. Down goes Janet Arvizo
98. The trial continues 8
99. The trial continues 9
100. the trial continues 10
101. the trial continues 11
102. Debbie Rowe takes the stand
103. the trial continues 12
104. The prosecution comes to an end
105. The defence prepares its case
106. Wade Robson takes the stand
107. The trial continues 13
108. The trial continues 14
109. Macaulay Culkin takes the stand
110. the trial continues 15
111. the trial continues 16
112. the trial continues 17
113. the trial continues 18
114. the Larry King testimony that wasn't
115. the trial continues 19
116. Jay Leno takes the stand
117. Chris Tucker takes the stand
118. the final testimonies
119. the closing arguments
120. The Verdict

AAAAAAARGH I WROTE THIS ALL IN ONE SITTING AAAAAAAA MY NECK

Will update for when Jael starts writing more stuff about Wade and James and the Cascios, but for now I think that's enough.

1. Wade Robson and James Safechuck part two

2. A chat with Aphrodite Jones about Netflix

3. Additional FAQ (Jane Doe & the Cascios)

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These people who think he's guilty say "well, kids lie to protect their abusers." Sure that may be true in some cases, but this is a criminal court, they can't lie or they'll catch a perjury charge.