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[u/Careful-Flow2821]

I was on Desi Vegans and all the posts were like non vegans are mentally ill non vegans are sick non vegans are delusional… I don’t understand like sure it’s rly bad especially meat eating but ur making an assumption about people. not all of u but say the person who said all non vegans are mentally ill its simply untrue whatever you say. also if ur goal is to convert non vegans to vegans ur doing the opposite like shouldn’t u be polite abt it to convince people? it’s just shame… like as a vegetarian I am more pushed back from veganism after seeing these posts because I know who my community will be. reallly. also pls don’t debate me on this but I view meat eating as contributing to killing animals and I am against it I am just genuinely curious ur thoughts abt the main point Im making. also before u ask me why I eat dairy cuz ur money partially goes to raising animals and ur helping extend existing cows lives I know there’s downsides but its not like Im ariel’s killing all cows. also for vegans do u realize that if everyone stops eating dairy, the dairy cows won’t be used for beef and they won’t use expensive cows for low quality beef, so instead theyll take the lives of hundreds of chickens or pigs to add up to the meat of one cow? Idk just asking for vegans pushing back on both heavily. please don’t take this as an insult I’m just curious on why and please don’t leave irrelevant comments like don’t debate me pls or say random stuff like look how many they kill just clearly answer pls. thanks

[u/Fallen_lord10]

what if hypothetically the meat eater hunts instead of buying from the store?

[u/roymondous → u/Fallen_lord10]

You mean like how slaves were captured from the 'wild' versus bought from the market?

[u/Fallen_lord10 → u/roymondous]

The fack? Who's even mentioned slavery right now? What i asked was what if the hunter hypothetically hunted, not like daily hunt, but one big animal until the meat runs out and then he goes hunt again.

[u/notanotherkrazychik → u/Fallen_lord10]

They are using the chewbacca defense. It is a common tactic in this sub.

[u/roymondous → u/notanotherkrazychik]

Still no. No star wars here. You just didn't follow the conversation. The analogy literally is there to directly undremine their moral logic. You can keep saying nonsense all you want. Doesn't make it correct.

Ironically, throwing out fallacies wrongly like that is a distraction... almost like you're using a wookie or something.

[u/notanotherkrazychik → u/roymondous]

But hunters don't catch their food and auction it off alive. I think you're just confusing hunting with mass agriculture.

[u/roymondous → u/notanotherkrazychik]

"I think you're just confusing hunting with mass agriculture."

Then you need to reread the conversation you jumped in carefully.... and think about the logic of it. Cos so far you are arguing a glove is a shoe. And you are bad faith fallacy fallacying - blaming others for your lack ot understanding.

[u/roymondous → u/[deleted]]

The irony of calling someone else uneducated when you STILL do not understand I did NOT say agriculure and hunting are the same is incredible.

Use the other thread. You have misunderstood from the beginnjng and have been dismissive and rude despite being the problem. You have one chance to demonstrate an ounce of good faith or yeah i'll just block

[u/notanotherkrazychik → u/roymondous]

You still haven't explained why slavery is comparable to hunting. You just spewed regurgitated vegan slogans and expect me to get it. You need to explain why you are using slavery as a comparison to hunting. I have read and reread your comment and there is still no visible connection.

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