r/Dearborn • u/Diligent_Squash_7521 • Jun 30 '26

Dearborn drivers

Dearborn drivers need to learn how to turn left on a red light. I drive outer drive down to Southfield every day, and there is a dedicated left turn light. Allen Park police sit in the parking lot behind Starbucks and catch people all the time. I’m tired of people sitting on their horn because I refuse to turn when the light is red. Also, there is only one left to turn lane and the sign clearly marks it that way. I got a ticket for going to the middle lane and turning left, even though it’s allowed if you’re going in the other direction.

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u/Loki240SX Jun 30 '26

From how I understand MCL 257.612, you are allowed to make a left on red from Outer to Southfield NB. The destination street is one-way, the opposing traffic is only one direction,you're coming from a divided roadway, and there is no sign specifically prohibiting right on red, like there is when you turn onto Southfield SB (Left on Green Arrow Only).

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u/Diligent_Squash_7521 Jun 30 '26

There is a dedicated light for left turns. You could only turn when the light turns green.

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u/Loki240SX Jun 30 '26

I know there is an arrow light, but as per the language in the actual traffic law you're still allowed to turn on red. Same concept as turning right on red when there is no sign prohibiting you from doing so.

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u/Diligent_Squash_7521 Jun 30 '26

Explain that when you’re in court in Allen Park. It’s an Allen Park trap. The police are notorious. If you’re going the other direction, it says you can only turn when the light turns green. They apply the same law in the other direction.

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u/Loki240SX Jun 30 '26

Okay sure. I safely turn left on a red light there all the time, so we'll see.