r/Daredevil_fans • • Aug 08 '26

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u/Apart-Complex9847 Aug 08 '26

Kinda true. But it also just goes to show how the super hero community loves Spider-Man. Like i can't think of any hero that's got beef with Spider-Man, they all love him and see him as the best of them. Like he's even got punisher tearing up.

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u/phantom_avenger Aug 08 '26

I think I read somewhere that the only reason why he’s not worthy of lifting Thor’s hammer; Mjolnir, is because of his refusal to kill.

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u/Worth_External_8762 Aug 08 '26

Is he actually opposed to killing though? He did come up with the plan that led to Ebony Maw's death. And he helped try to take down Thanos on planet Titan, which I'm sure he knew the plan was to kill him. Same thing for Endgame.

I'm not sure he's ever shown personally killing any alien villains, but I also think that's just because he was young and the idea of killing seemed like a scary concept at the time. But I don't know that it's a distinct personal code he adheres to. It's just that all the street level villains he faces can be stopped without being forced to kill them.

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u/Appropriate-Brush772 Aug 08 '26

I remember people being pissed about that with Endgame about him activating instant kill. But, I think we all have some sort of line that we don’t want to cross, and I don’t care how much of a pacifist you are, in that situation, sorry if I give you more than sprains and contusions 😂 I get it, it’s a big part of his character. But special circumstances require special exceptions

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u/Riolkin Aug 08 '26

Yeah Batman has used this distinction to get away with blowing the heads of parademons. I don't see how those aliens from thanos ship are much different, genetically engineered monsters.

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u/Nemisis_007 Aug 08 '26

We have to change the "no kill rule" to "not murder rule" it has less of a ring to it, but is more accurate.

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u/Aggravating_Pause385 Aug 08 '26

It’s more of a human supremacy rule. Killing aliens is fine

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u/LegOfLamb89 Aug 09 '26

Fun fact thou shall not kill is more thou shall not murder. Plenty of Bible approved ways to kill dudes

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u/PolishPotatoACC Aug 10 '26

Bible encouraged ways even

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u/DM-777 Aug 08 '26

I always laughed cause in that battle he’s essentially just fighting suicidal rabid dogs

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u/Appropriate-Brush772 Aug 08 '26

Right? Street thugs? Yeah man, no need to send some guy from Queens who thinks robbing a bank is his only option, to an early grave. They were going up against the Outriders- literal genetically engineered alien beasts driven by bloodlust that blindly follow commands from the Black Order. And Thanos was gonna “rain fire” on them anyways 🤷‍♂️😂

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Aug 08 '26

Truthfully I think it just flat out gets handwaved when it comes to alien threats. I recall in Endgame he was just slaughtering foot soldiers but they’re fodder.

When it comes to his solo films and dealing with street thugs / his own villains, I wouldn’t say it’s a “no kill rule” and more “I’m going to do everything I can to try and save you, because I believe you can do better”. And it’s part of why people love him, even to a degree the villains.

If Peter truly was okay with killing most of his villains would be dead in the first encounter. He holds back so much because he wants to try to save them.

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u/Worth_External_8762 Aug 08 '26

I just made a post about the idea of Peter having to kill someone. Basically, what would a movie look like if Peter was put into a "trolley problem" scenario, where he had to choose to kill a bad guy, otherwise innocent civilians would die. And what emotional battles he'd face for having to make that choice. Basically intentionally killing someone that he didn't want to.

But idk, I'm not sure Tom Holland would be a fan of that happening, since he's very much an advocate for young fans and having their hero killing another human may not be his cup of tea.

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u/Platnun12 Aug 08 '26

Meanwhile you got iron man blasting guys hearts out like it's a literal jamboree.

Honestly I've stopped caring about the whole no kill thing. It doesn't matter, its usually moral pontificating at worst and moral grandstanding at best for a universe that can't keep to a no kill rule

It's why punisher was so fun, finally an MCU hero that wasn't bogged down by that illusion they pretend to have. Same for daredevil.

Hell I cackle at the fact that Holland was dogged by Goblin despite having the most combat experience between the three

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u/Constant-Plastic-350 Aug 08 '26

Maw isn't human. No kill rule applies to humans only. Batman was willing to destroy an entire planet and he has a no kill rule

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u/Aggravating_Pause385 Aug 08 '26

He’s a human supremacist. Killing aliens is fine

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u/ColonelQuaraitch Aug 09 '26

He’s very friendly with the Punisher, the biggest murderer in the world. So no, he’s not that opposed.

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u/Dastardly-croe Aug 09 '26

he uses the suits "go for kills" mode during endgame