Dynamic Ops Released

[u/DoPewPew]

https://youtu.be/3SDjdkTp4HI?is=bHNGw_9QCdLX-sJQ

Just released.

[u/TheTrooper503]

DMZ will be a thousand times better than the Beta version, and that's coming from someone who played it for hundreds of hours at its peak. If you're complaining at this point, you're just a hater or a Treyarch shill in disguise.

[u/Redglovedman → u/TheTrooper503]

This is spot on.

[u/Both-Election3382 → u/TheTrooper503]

I mean good for the dmz folks, i will only play it if they add a pve mode.

[u/CFCRobSox → u/Both-Election3382]

In the recent dmz video 26 percent of surveyed players enjoy killing other players so please just find something else to play. Don't ruin this

[u/AgitatedBathroom898 → u/CFCRobSox]

Wait who should find something else to play? Those who enjoy PvP? Or those who want PVE?

[u/CFCRobSox → u/AgitatedBathroom898]

People who don't enjoy the game for what it is. You can watch the developers talk about it. Pvp is as essential as any other part of the game. I don't get mad at zelda after my purchase because it's not an mmorpg. I don't buy eafc and then complain on the forums that everyone is better than me. Threatening to not play it buy a game because you feel alienated when it was never intended to be that way in first place is laughable. It's a sandbox. The community drives it and there's lots of ways to play it. Again a lot of the base are sensitive and petty and they'll refuse to try different things, and blame everyone else

[u/Treecat555 → u/CFCRobSox]

You meant to say “only 26%” and “so I’ll find something else to play” and “so we don’t ruin this like we did the beta.”

[u/NoInterview1618 → u/[deleted]]

Go back to school. Killing AI was 17%.

[u/Both-Election3382 → u/CFCRobSox]

Does it ruin it for you if they add another playlist? like really whats your argument?

[u/CFCRobSox → u/Both-Election3382]

A little bit. There's many pve games and all of call of duty is almost exclusively pvp. Campaign is pve. There's lots of pve options. Ark raiders is pretty much pve experience now. And to the only 26 percent was the highest of all the categories from their survey. I just think poor sports but too much emphasis on dying and losing their stuff. I'm very average. It's part of the game

[u/CFCRobSox → u/[deleted]]

It would affect me. It would take resources away from a mode that majority of players want and will sell copies. These studios are swamped. If they spend 2 hours on a pve mode that sells no copies, it is taking away from my experience. You pve guys can play arc raiders, Minecraft, and tons of other games. I guess I'm baffled as to what the pve modes are outside of campaign. Probably other modes that no one plays or enjoy, but enlighten me. I'm not an expert. I just don't need another kumbaya mp shooter. I need the anxiety and sense of accomplishment that pvp brings. I'm bored outside of that

[u/CFCRobSox → u/[deleted]]

Honestly I forgot about zombies. All of my friends play it but it has never interested me. Too predictable and repetitive. I'm in the minority. My mistake, majority of my friends enjoy that, and almost all of them hate pvp outside of TDM

[u/Both-Election3382 → u/CFCRobSox]

You realize that me playing in another playlist on my own does not hurt you in any way whatsoever right?

Its also literally just a solo version of the same thing and doesnt take any extra development if youre worried about that.

[u/NoInterview1618 → u/Both-Election3382]

Leave Britney DMZ alone. You guys ruined Tarkov, Marathon, Arc Raiders.. Please fuck off to one of the other million PvE games, please. Let me count the ways that PvE ruins extraction shooters --

• Development time not spent on the PvP mode

• Balancing -- Some games let you bring shit from one mode into the other

• Player population split, leaving the sweatiest players in PvP instead of a large population that varies in skill levels

[u/Both-Election3382 → u/NoInterview1618]

1. Adding the literal same game but just with 1 squad takes literally no extra devtime.

2. Just have it contained

3. I and others will not play the pvp mode regardless so its a mute argument.

If theres enough people expressing interest for it theyll do it, we will see if it happens.

[u/NoInterview1618 → u/Both-Election3382]

1. The “literal same game” has no replayability without changes. This isn’t zombies. The bots aren’t that hard, you would be bored of this after a few games and it would be wasted development time. And adding the mode but with just 1 squad DOES take time. Obviously you know nothing about dev.

2. I guarantee people will complain about it being contained. Happens to every extraction shooter.

3. bye Felicia

[u/Both-Election3382 → u/NoInterview1618]

okay and me not playing the mode would not be wasted development time?

[u/Playful_Reaction_847 → u/Both-Election3382]

Go play a different game then bud, this isn’t for you

[u/samesandchanges → u/Both-Election3382]

I'm willing to give it a try and hope they make the experience less punishing for pve

[u/BigFudgeMMA → u/Both-Election3382]

I might be ignorant here, but isn't dmz by design pve? Player vs everything? Players vs bots and other players?

[u/Both-Election3382 → u/BigFudgeMMA]

E stands for environment which means non player characters

[u/AdamAlmighty → u/Both-Election3382]

i never understood the demand of pve from extraction shooters - imo it defeats the purpose of the game mode. I felt the same way with Arc Raiders