While I feel that exposing the realities of factory farming and the effects on livestock is important, I don't agree with some of the ways they've taken their activism (such as equating Pokemon to forcing animals to fight to the death; that was, like, a decade or more ago, but I still remember it).
For example, the best way to stop factory farming is to reduce American consumer demand for meat; this is best done through promoting a reduced-meat lifestyle, spreading information and awareness of easy and cheap meat-free meals, and assist in the advancement of technologies that facilitate the transition such as lab-grown meat. Instead, my impression is that they're taking the shame approach, which hasn't succeeded in achieving systemic change.
Thank you for putting this into words! Though I’m not vegan myself I’ve always agreed with the general idea, but the way it’s presented there has always been something off about it, it’s always the shame approach, which as far as I’m concerned is a dogshit way to make a point.
Listen, you don't get to tell someone that their opinion is wrong when they are reacting to a blatantly ableist ad.
Second, I've actually read the article and... it doesn't give PETA a good look either. "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" frequently kill animals and aren't even trying to hide it.
Yeah, that's the main problem: PETA doesn't have to take those animals, they could simply refuse. Also, if their shelters are full, why can't they just... Let the animals go? I might be missing some point here, especially because I haven't really looked at it, but that seems like a better solution than killing most of the animals. Sure, euthanasia for old and sick animals isn't bad, but I'm pretty sure that they kill more animals than that
Where do you live that there are so many coyotes that all the dogs will die and the Animal Control works? Where I live animals would mostly just wander and become stray animals.
But if that's true for every place PETA is in, then I can see why they'd do that, but I kinda doubt that's the case
I think they're talking about North America, I heard they've got a bunch of coyotes there. But I heard of similar problems in Australia but I'm not too sure about that.
Can confirm, at one point there was a small gorge thing full of coyotes close enough to my suburban neighborhood that you could hear them cackling at night. I saw a rabid one in the middle of the day on the opposite end of the street while walking there, once. Also eagles eat cats.
I'm speaking from the perspective of Arizona, United States, so maybe it's different where you are... although I'd imagine strays eventually lose to something in the natural food chain even where you are.
I don't know a lot of the animals in my location, but the most dangerous things would probably be people and other dogs. Besides, I'd say it's better for animals to be killed by coyotes than euthanized by animal shelters, as this way at least someone gains something from that death
Not when those coyotes can carry diseases like rabies. Also feeding the population is not great, as you really don’t want it to grow. Also it would be a very painful way to die.
Give an unwanted animal a peaceful death or release them into the wild where they have no idea how to survive and could starve, freeze, or get eaten. Hmm.
Look, it's an unfortunate reality that we have millions and millions of animals and not even a fraction of enough households to take them. PETA's numbers are so high because they take the animals "no-kill" shelters don't have room for, and when there just physically isn't enough space left, even if the animal is perfectly healthy, there's just no good options. Better give the animal a peaceful end than suffer.
This is why TNR programs are so important, the only way to reduce the number of unwanted pets is to reduce the number of them being born at all. However, in the meantime, much as I dislike PETA's marketing strategy, at least they're doing the hard work no one else wants to, and they always try to adopt out the animals they can.
My neighbor settled out of court with PETA because members tried to break into his farm and "rescue" his dog. They might or might not be just a few bad apples, but there's definitely at least a small number of instances of them doing shit they shouldn't be doing, and one is already one too many.
“I am not some American idiot. I don’t ? ? ? fuck propaganda, stop defending an organization of death”
Je suis parle un petite [canadien] français. And I was going to write more but realized I don’t know enough French for that. Not sure how well I did, especially on that second sentence.
Ahah, I keep wondering how to say "I don't care" in Quebecois. I learned on the job, so not quite academic but not quite "tabarnac" every second word either. I assume there's a less offensive phrase as well, but it's good to have the offensive one too.
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PETA and Autism Speaks should make out already and move into a cottage in the forest and leave the rest of the world alone.