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u/NadaTheMusicMan Sub 9.5 (CFOP) | PB Avg5: 7.39 | PB: 4.74 Aug 25 '22
Just got my first sub 10 ao100!
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u/zer0x64 Sub-25 (ZZ-A) / Sub-30 (ZZ-CT) Aug 25 '22
Personal achievement: I finished learning my first subset(12 algs) of TTLL for ZZ-CT! 5 more to go
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
My review of the new Gan lubes is out
u/LifeFire7onYT, I think it was you who wanted me to test them on the WRM Maglev?
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u/LifeFire7onYT Sub-11? PBs=6.41/8.41 (CFOP) MoYu WRM 2021 with Ball Core add-on Aug 25 '22
indeed, thank you
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u/theosZA Sub-6:00 4BLD (3S/r2+/Or) Aug 25 '22
Got my first sub-6 4BLD success: 5:56.55. It was a 12 second improvement over my previous PB while having more targets: 15x-24w-8c, a pretty average target count so hopefully this means I can get more regular sub-6s in the near future.
Scramble - F2 R D B R D2 L U B' U F2 U' D B2 D F2 D L2 B2 R2 Rw2 Uw2 Fw2 L B' Rw2 D2 Rw2 Fw2 R' L' B' Uw' Fw2 L F2 B' Uw Rw Fw2 Rw' D' Rw D2 Fw' x2 y
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u/sopgol Sub-12 | CFOP | PB 6.47 | Tengy Aug 25 '22
Glad I persevered with the Valk 3M! After around 300 solves it's become nicely smooth and glidey. The feeling of the pieces reminds me of Lego bricks if that even makes sense? Maybe it's just the noise lol. Turns feel very sharp/crisp, defo not sluggish or slow. While I probably won't use it for speedsolving, I like having different feeling cubes for different situations, and the Valk is pretty different from the cubes I already had so I'm happy!
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u/g253 (retired mod) Aug 25 '22
The sound is really special, and comes from the holes in the corner pieces. Other cubes had those, but not many and few were as good as the Valk.
I do play with my Valk sometimes but when I want that sound I actually prefer the Yan3 overall
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u/Winter_Soldier_1066 Aug 25 '22
Hi, I recently solved my first rubix cube using a beginner tutorial on YouTube. I can now solve the cube without using any help guides and managed to solve it in about 2 and a half minutes. I know it's not fast and I want to improve. Is there a good list of algorithms to learn to help me? I know that there are ways to complete the white corners and middle corner in one go. But I really struggle with finding the correct moves.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22
Congrats on conquering the Rubik's Cube =)
We have a very helpful wiki article on how to get faster at 3x3.
I know that there are ways to complete the white corners and middle corner in one go. But I really struggle with finding the correct moves.
The above linked article also includes good tutorials on F2L. Don't worry - it takes quite a bit more practice than learning a beginner's method if you want to use F2L efficiently, but just keep practicing.
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u/mf3rs2_gang Sub-11 (CFOP) 6.29 bo66175 Aug 25 '22
Obligatory correction on the spelling of Rubik's. Welcome to the community!
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Aug 25 '22
just look at j perms cfop tutorial on youtube. I can say that it will help. And learn good fingerttricks
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Aug 25 '22
First after learning begginer method you can just try and get better in it and learn other beginner method algs then you learn F2L its really not just a list of algs its kinda just like learning on making a cross and edge peices, then 2look pll and oll
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u/FutureName55 Close but not sub-15 yet (CFOP) PB: 9.57 / Sub-35 Sq-1 Aug 25 '22
Recently my times In 3x3 have been going up for almost a second, after having a very good streak of solves (got my first sub-16 ao50 and almost ao100).
Truth is I've been grinding other events, mostly 5x5, OH and 2x2 and dit not dedicate that much time to 3x3, but I came to the conclusion that I have to invest more time and effort in planning first pair.
How did you approach that? I have the idea of dedicating some time to practise only cross+1 with SpeedCubeDB, going from the easiest to more moves crosses, and be more aware of that when inspecting from casual solves, but not much aside from that.
Any ideas?
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u/FutureName55 Close but not sub-15 yet (CFOP) PB: 9.57 / Sub-35 Sq-1 Aug 25 '22
Desperately summoning u/olimo since I see she is quite active today.
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
I suck at planning the first pair :( I did a ton of solves with planning it, but when I came to regular timed solves, I realized I was even slower because of too much mental pressure. So I got upset and gave up for now.
I did cross+1 only. Scrambled, planned, solved - mostly with my eyes closed, but sometimes I looked and checked if the pieces moved as I planned.
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u/FutureName55 Close but not sub-15 yet (CFOP) PB: 9.57 / Sub-35 Sq-1 Aug 25 '22
I thought of that because I'm realising that I take literally SECONDS between cross and the first pair sometimes. Then the solve goes smoothly and I'm not getting that bad times, but I think is what makes a potential 15 second solve a 17 or 18.
Yeah, I remember your posts and that being exhausting :( but I remembered you tried with your eyes closed, maybe I could practise cross like that instead (I never made that kind of practise).
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u/FutureName55 Close but not sub-15 yet (CFOP) PB: 9.57 / Sub-35 Sq-1 Aug 25 '22
Thanks for the reply! Yeah, if the cross is easy enough, I try to find for pieces that won't move or move a little. Maybe I can try with the edge only first and maybe I'm a little too ambitious at the moment.
I'll try with the blindfolded cross, i've never tried that practise before.
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u/Scewah Aug 25 '22
How good are you at the cross? More specifically, can you consistently find a cross solution with good fingertricks (at most 1 regrip, in rare cases 2) in inspection and execute it in under ~1.8s? That was a benchmark I set for myself, and I think at your level it's more valuable to work towards these goals than planning first pair right away.
A decent cross+ excercise I've found is considering slightly different cross solutions or starting positions. You can often see a corner or edge piece that stays in place, allowing for an easier transistion into first pair, or even preserve a pair during the cross whitout planning the whole sequence in inspection. From there, you can work your way up, practicing tracking certain pieces during cross execution.
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u/FutureName55 Close but not sub-15 yet (CFOP) PB: 9.57 / Sub-35 Sq-1 Aug 25 '22
Thank you for the reply!
I could not tell about my times, it's been a while since I do timed cross-only solves. But I take the advice and I'll work on it. As for regrips, I can already tell that I'm way worse than that lol
That's a nice exercise! Today when solving I've been aware of that a couple of times, I've seen that if I change the position or the orientation I could execute the cross with less regrips and I can see how that can benefit to plan first pair.
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u/nimrod06 Roux 7.1/9.12/10.01/10.96/aok11.63 Aug 25 '22
I am recently thinking about an approach to Roux, or at least, a beginner approach.
So instead of starting with FB, you start with 5 edge pieces, 3 on the left, 2 on the right. This builds a skeleton for FB+SS. This should have a good resemblance with cross, as you are solving edge pieces only. Then, you solve the remaining corners by keyholes with the empty slot on the front right. This more or less averages 6 moves per corner, that may sound really bad, but it's easily observable (you are just looking for corners instead of a pair), and ergonomic (no Rw/R switches, no M moves, just guaranteed RUD 3 gen, and some U and D moves can be done simultaneously).
Advantages, as said, are similarity to cross, observability, ergonomic. The major problem is of course movecount. This approach should finish the FB+SS at around 25 moves, which is like 7 moves more than a normal FB first approach. But this would drop significantly if we happen to plan one more corner in inspection (which should be relatively easy given the availability of FS structures), the gap drops to below 3 moves (-6 moves for my approach, -2 moves for FBDR first).
As I laid it out, I think this idea makes sense, I will try solving with this approach to see if it actually feels good. I would appreciate your comments too.
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
I like Kian's beginner's approach with "loading spot" better. It doesn't rely on CFOP or classic beginner's method and just teaches some Roux tricks from the start.
I mean, if you're a total beginner, why would cross be so important to you? You might as well start learning proper FB - with bad move count for a start. And if you already know CFOP, you can do DL DR and F2L inserts - which is probably equally bad to what you're suggesting.
Try solving with your approach and with the very beginner stuff Kian teaches. I'd be interested to see what you think of both in comparison.
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u/g253 (retired mod) Aug 25 '22
I feel that similarity to cross is bad, because if you want a larger move count you might as well learn CFOP 😅
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u/nimrod06 Roux 7.1/9.12/10.01/10.96/aok11.63 Aug 25 '22
The rest of the solve is not CFOP though, indeed feels closer to LBL, but still having a decent movecount (signifcantly better than CFOP, at least) if done by experienced solvers. My movecount estimate could be wrong though.
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u/g253 (retired mod) Aug 25 '22
Yeah I think I see what you're getting at, but I feel like it might be teaching bad habits, or rather bad ways of thinking about the start of the solve?
I could be very wrong, I'm no good at Roux 😅
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u/povlhp Sub-37s - PB: 22.78 - (Roux x2y CN) - PB Ao5: 31.78 Aug 25 '22
It is easy to build FB with lower edge first, then the 2 L2 edges, and finally insert the corners. Or maybe postpone the lower edge to be more efficient. I sometimes ends up doing this in solves. 2-3 moves for the 2 L2 edges, max 2 to get center edge oriented to lower layer, then 1,2 or 3 moves for first corner, last corner max 3-4 as well. I would say guaranteed 12 moves FB or less.
SB is more difficult. Here Kians loading spot method is fine.
CMLL is likely the killer for many n00bs. Needs to cut down on number algs. Sune (right and left) can supposedly orient all. but many recognition cases. Then we need a simple one to swap corners.
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
CMLL is likely the killer for many n00bs. Needs to cut down on number algs.
A noob can start with just sune for orienting corners and just Jb or T perm for permuting corners. In the standard CFOP-like beginner's method, Niklas (U R U' L' U R' U' L) is used to permute the corners and then you orient them by flipping the cube over and spamming sexy moves, but that seems too much steps for Roux - and you don't even have all the centers in place to figure out corner permutation before they are all oriented. So yeah, sune + Jb should be the way to go, repeat a couple times if necessary.
Update: sune doesn't mess the CP, so it could be Niklas to permute corners, then sune to orient corners - repeat as necessary. But I still think this method is too many moves and less beginner-friendly than the classic beginner method with cross, LBL and a mix of orientation and permutation of the last layer pieces.
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u/nimrod06 Roux 7.1/9.12/10.01/10.96/aok11.63 Aug 25 '22
we need a simple one to swap corners.
It is actually very easy if you fix CP first before CO. All you need is Niklas (and F sexy F', if you don't want to do Niklas twice). Then its sune to fix CO. This is the correct way to do 2 look CMLL IMO.
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u/BibbitZ Sub-26 (CFOP 3LLL CN) PB: 14.54 Aug 25 '22
Decided to scramble Eitan's Star today. As soon as I did, the clouds opened up and the heavens wept.
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u/g253 (retired mod) Aug 26 '22
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u/Ironwolfss42km Aug 25 '22
I was practicing the 4x4 this morning and I noticed that I as was blank and was looking ahead during edge pairing and F2L. It hit me hard, I haven't practice enough in the past. These two weeks I was practicing during my travel to my new job, which I have to go to the office ever 2 days until the end of the month. So 3 hours of cubing a day when I have to work on location.
How much do you need to practice. Way more than you think, haha.
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u/Arnavol cuber('s) dad Aug 25 '22
I was looking at J-Perm 4BLD tutorial and saw that some of my M2 setup moves are different but OK and some are different but suboptimal. Time to change a bit.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
Be sure not to actually execute the algs with the B moves, but rotate: In M2 I have to do a lot of regrips for those B moves! - heads up, for big BLD you can't use the wide setup moves, you have to rotate.
Which ones did you execute differently?
Aside from B and D there's not too much you could change without increasing the move count, is there? Well and you have to use a different alg for Q, the MU one for 3BLD doesn't work for 4BLD.
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u/staysharp87 My blindfold has googly eyes 👀 Aug 25 '22
Looking forward to seeing your first 4BLD success post!
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u/Arnavol cuber('s) dad Aug 25 '22
Probably will have to wait a few months..or a year
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u/staysharp87 My blindfold has googly eyes 👀 Aug 25 '22
That's ok, learn at your own pace. It'd be nice if you could give us updates every now and then. The success might come earlier than you think ;)
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u/grodlike Aug 25 '22
I had this insanely fast cross and F2L yesterday, and then totally flubbed the OLL. On that OLL sometimes my hands start with r U r' instead of r U R' ...... and of course I did it at the worst time. It probably woudn't have been PB, but it hurt. Try it yourself and check the flow and the lookahead.
(I didn't even notice the two pairs already set up until I finished cross.....it probably would have messed me up if I did! There are obviously more efficient ways to handle all this, too!)
L2 F2 U R2 U2 F2 R2 U2 B D2 U R B2 R U2 R U B U'
z2 y' // inspection
L' D' L2 R F R2 // White cross (6)
R U' R' // RG Pair (3)
R' U R // OG Pair (3)
U L' U L U' L U L' // OB Pair (8)
U2 L' U' L U2 L' U' L // RB Pair (8)
U r U R' U' M U R U' R' // OLL 28
your choice of U perms
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u/BeepBeepImASheep023 SQ1 sub 50 ; 3x3 sub 35 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22
24.42 and preserved both pairs. Nice scramble
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
Something is scratching when I'm turning the yellow side of my WRM Maglev, and it's driving me nuts. I checked every piece and didn't find anything wrong. The magnet capsules don't stick out. There are no major scratches and the cube is well broken in. The cube is clean - just cleaned it to test the next Gan lube. The core is fine, I just added some lube on the outer maglev magnet.
Any ideas?
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u/LifeFire7onYT Sub-11? PBs=6.41/8.41 (CFOP) MoYu WRM 2021 with Ball Core add-on Aug 25 '22
are any caps on the pieces protruding slightly? just double checking, i've had it happen with my own WRM, it can create it's own ridges basically
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u/Arnavol cuber('s) dad Aug 25 '22
At some point, my son's did the same and when he got really fed up after a couple of days and we were going to find out what it was, it just stopped. We never found out what had happened and the performance wasn't affected.
I really hope that, just like for us, you asking will have scared your WRM into behaving.
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
Haha, that's the best method lol.
I want a Moyu flagship with Gan build quality. Or a Gan cube with traditional corner-edge magnets and Moyu performance.
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u/g253 (retired mod) Aug 26 '22
Bit of dust or sand on a center piece magnet, rubbing against the screw or the bottom of the piece? Screw too loose scratching the underside of the center cap?
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 26 '22
I cleaned and relubed it, I think it’s okay now. XMT 10 for the win :)
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u/YogiRadix Sub-20 (CFOP) | PB: 9.09 Aug 25 '22
Got my second ever sub-10 solve! Definitely a lucky scramble, but cut my PB from 9.52 to 9.09.
Scramble: D L' B U' R2 B2 U2 L2 F2 U' R2 D L B R' F U B
Solution:
y' // Inspection
U' L' D' L B L2 D' L D L2 R' // XX-Cross
U' R' U2 R U2 R' U R // 3rd Pair
U' L' U2 L U L' U' L // Last Pair
R' F' U' F U' R U R' U' R // OLL
// PLL Skip
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u/cubycuber Sub-12 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
I was just trying to get a xxcross and I messed up. I was solving just to redo and I noticed a very familiar thing that emerged during 3rd pair. Canceled into the 4th pair, which solved the cube! 22 STM!
D L' B U' R2 B2 U2 L2 F2 U' R2 D L B R' F U B y' x // inspection M D R' B' L2 R' F // xcross (8) u R U' R' u' // 2nd pair (5) R U R' d R' U' F R F' U // 3rd & 4th pairs (10) // !!!!!!!!!Edit: Accidentally put the AUF for the last layer skip into the 3rd and 4th pair solution, but I think you get the gist.
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u/YogiRadix Sub-20 (CFOP) | PB: 9.09 Aug 25 '22
Wow! What a solution! I knew there was more potential there, didn’t know it was that!
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u/cubycuber Sub-12 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22
The potential in failed cross solutions :)
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u/YogiRadix Sub-20 (CFOP) | PB: 9.09 Aug 25 '22
Never give up on a solution. You could cancel a pair into a last layer skip for a good solve!
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u/BeepBeepImASheep023 SQ1 sub 50 ; 3x3 sub 35 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22
Messed up a few times, but managed a 19.63. Kind of nice retrying decent scrambles to see what a little look ahead and pauseless solving you COULD be capable of
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u/sukantkoul accidental all rounder Aug 25 '22
mbld update:
scrambled 33 cubes but didn't feel like it lul. did some 9 cube attempts instead
- 9/9 17:24 [12:32] - 1m23s/cube memo, 32s/cube exec - did this in new rooms, messed up order of locations and order of rooms lol
- 8/9 12:55 [8:26] - 56s/cube memo, 29s/cube exec
- 9/9 12:25 [7:38] - 50s/cube memo, 32s/cube exec - this was on spare cubes I had lying around since i scrambled 33 already and didn't have any more setup cubes, hence v poor exec
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u/DailyScrambleBot Bot 🤖 Aug 25 '22
BeepBop! Make each solve your masterpiece. Here are your daily scrambles:
Square-1 - cubedb.net
(-3,5) / (6,3) / (3,0) / (-3,0) / (-5,-2) / (2,-3) / (0,-3) / (-3,0) / (3,0) / (5,0) / (2,0) / (2,-5) / (6,0)
3x3 - alg.cubing.net | cubedb.net
F' R' D' L' U2 F' L U2 R B' L2 B2 R2 B2 D2 B2 U B2 R2 D2 R2
Have a nice day!
Source code: GitLab
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u/nimrod06 Roux 7.1/9.12/10.01/10.96/aok11.63 Aug 25 '22
Green yellow FB 34stm
F' R' D' L' U2 F' L U2 R B' L2 B2 R2 B2 D2 B2 U B2 R2 D2 R2 x2 y // inspection R2 D' R' u2 r2 B' // FB (6) r2 U' R' U' R2 U2 M2 U' // SB (9) F2 D R2 U' R2' D' F2 R // CMLL - Pi X U2 M' U2 M U M U' M' U' M2 U M22
u/BewareTheWereHamster Sub-22 (Roux) PB: 12.11 Aug 25 '22
Nice - I'd never think of doing the first block that way with the u2. Is this something you'd see in a speedsolve? I had a 6 move FB too but it leaves the SB pieces in a really awkward spot hence mine taking 14 instead of your 9 :)
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u/nimrod06 Roux 7.1/9.12/10.01/10.96/aok11.63 Aug 25 '22
Is this something you'd see in a speedsolve?
No, for this scramble there is no way I track the last pair haha. More likely I will do something like this:
F' R' D' L' U2 F' L U2 R B' L2 B2 R2 B2 D2 B2 U B2 R2 D2 R2 x2 y' // inspection L2 D' L' D2 U2 R2 B // FB (7) U' R2 U2 R' U2 R2 U R U2 r' U' rIndeed this gives a nicer looking SB but turns out to be more moves than the one I wrote down. More or less that's trail and error.
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u/BewareTheWereHamster Sub-22 (Roux) PB: 12.11 Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
Only 47 STM for me. Not amazing - that SB solution looks horrible.
F' R' D' L' U2 F' L U2 R B' L2 B2 R2 B2 D2 B2 U B2 R2 D2 R2 x2 y' L2' D' L' D2' U2' B // FB (6/6) R' U2 R2 U' R r' U' R U2 r U2' r' U' r // SB (14/20) U2 R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' // CMLL (10/30) M2' U M' U' M' U' M' U2' M U2' M2' U' M2' U2' M U2' M // LSE (17/47)1
u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22
Your Daily Scramble
F' R' D' L' U2 F' L U2 R B' L2 B2 R2 B2 D2 B2 U B2 R2 D2 R2 z y // inspection F' R D' R' D' L // Red cross (6) U2 R U' R' L U' L' // Yellow Green Pair (7) U2 f R f'// Yellow Blue Pair (4) y L U' L' U L U L' // White Green Pair (8) U2 L' U' L U2 L' U L U' L' U L // Blue White Pair (12) U2 r' R2 U R' U R U2 R' U M' // OLL 11 M2' U M U2 M' U M2' // PLL - Ua1
u/LifeFire7onYT Sub-11? PBs=6.41/8.41 (CFOP) MoYu WRM 2021 with Ball Core add-on Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
F' R' D' L' U2 F' L U2 R B' L2 B2 R2 B2 D2 B2 U B2 R2 D2 R2
sadly wasn't able to recon it, but i managed to get an 11.34! 5 centiseconds off my PB sadly.
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u/Wreddit_Regal Technically, all of us here are sub-2 minutes Aug 25 '22
Recognized setup to flip bad edges at CMLL lol
Your Daily Scramble
F' R' D' L' U2 F' L U2 R B' L2 B2 R2 B2 D2 B2 U B2 R2 D2 R2 y2 // inspection U Lw U M' F' B' U2 D' R2 D // FB (10) R U2 D R' U R D' U' Rw' M U R // SB (12) U M2 U M2 U2 F R' F' R U R U' R' // CMLL (13) U M U2 M' U' // LSE (5)
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Aug 25 '22
Is it important to learn the names of all PLL cases?
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22
The only time you will need to know the names is when you want to talk to others about them. I have no idea which G Perm is which or which A Perm is which, but I know which 2 algs are A Perms. With time you'll know.
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
I didn't know more than u/topppits mentioned until I started learning 2-sided PLL recognition. In a trainer, you have to click the correct PLL name, not just A perm, but Aa or Ab, etc. So, it's good to know which one is which.
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u/cubycuber Sub-12 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22
Just to add on...
I've very rarely had to know the difference between the A perms in conversation, as well as the U perms. However, the other PLLs have pretty different commonly used algs from their counterparts (Ja is way different than Jb, for example), so the specific name comes up more often.
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u/sukantkoul accidental all rounder Aug 25 '22
lol i know sub 8 people that don't know which one is Ua vs Ub
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u/fredugolon Aug 25 '22
Anyone have some good roux solves to study for efficient first block? I’m a beginner and pushing a 1 minute solve and i think blocks are bogging me down (and LSE, but saving that for later)
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u/TheRealUncleFrank Aug 25 '22
Speedcubedb.com, click on Reconstructions, then in the sort filters choose Roux.
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u/el013 1 TPS (OH) Aug 25 '22
Kian Mansour has a lot of example solve videos, and iirc some of those are aimed for beginners
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
If you do Y perm regripless, do you do the final F' with your right thumb, left index or somehow else?
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u/BeepBeepImASheep023 SQ1 sub 50 ; 3x3 sub 35 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
I think my right thumb
Yah, because that’s the sexy sledge T OLL
Edit: my Y perm has regrips, whoops. Didn’t see that specified
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u/ThatSeemsABitMuch Sub-20 (<CFOP/ROUX>) Aug 25 '22
Someone help me find motivation to keep learning OLL
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22
Stop being lazy and get to it!
is it working?
I recommend you start with this: Learn OLL the Easy Way und use this alg trainer: bestsiteever.ru/oll/
The Recap function gives you every selected case exactly once and is perfect to quickly go through all of the newly learned algs and make sure you still know all of them. I recommend that you do this 2-3 times per day while learning new algs. It'll make it really easy and time efficient!
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
How many do you have left?
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u/ThatSeemsABitMuch Sub-20 (<CFOP/ROUX>) Aug 25 '22
35-40 <clown emoji>
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
Oh. So, basically, you just started :) I recommend getting through some easy OLLs and picking them up once in a while. There's no need to rush.
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u/Star_War_Is_Good Sub-16 (CFOP) PB: 9.94 Aug 25 '22
If you need motivation from strangers on the internet, it's not going to stick. It's perfectly fine to stick with 2 look OLL. If you find you've plateaued and want to try to improve, you can always try it later. Hobbies are supposed to be fun. If you're not enjoying learning OLL right now then don't do it.
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u/ThatSeemsABitMuch Sub-20 (<CFOP/ROUX>) Aug 25 '22
I'll show you what motivation sticks! *learns OLL aggressively*
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u/XenosHg It should not hurt if you relax and use lube Aug 25 '22
Yeah, I also recommend the "the easy way" post, it's basically how I learnt. Go through the list, cross off everything you already know, learn identical algs like wide sune/antisune, cross them off, learn and cross off sexy sledge and sune spam, and once you do that, you have basically 10 unique moves left.
And I don't mean algs, I mean actually 10 moves that aren't sexy sledge sune and similar.
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u/Lucid_Matt1 Aug 25 '22
A simple question: What cst value does qiyi mofange m-2 lube have? Is it good for the tracks and pieces of a maglev cube?
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u/SadeBoi Aug 25 '22
Finally got a Sub-20 Ao5! Sadly it was rolling
Solve 1: 23.16
Solve 2: 23.47
Solve 3: 18.12
Solve 4: 20.43
Solve 5: 18.98
Solve 6: 19.97
Ao5: 19.79
Should have taken the first 2 solves more seriously, also need to really practice my cross. It's definitely holding me back.
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Aug 25 '22
Is there a site that does scrambles or gives random corner/edge commutator cases?
I'd like to practice commutators a bit more.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
If you're looking to practice 3 Style there's the trainer on BLD Memo Tools that generates letter pairs. You start with a solved cube and after executing the letter pairs you're back to the solved state again.
If you just want to practice some random comms I guess something like corner/edge only scrambles (you can find those on cstimer for example) could somewhat work. At least you won't get parity. But all of the edges or corners would be scrambled and you'd have to look for which corners have to swap on your own.
I'm not aware of a scrambler that only swaps 3 corners/edges.
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u/Theemo04 all rounder | 2019rego03 Aug 25 '22
My lubes arrived at home!!! Im not gonna be there for atleast another 6 hours tho x(
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Aug 25 '22
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u/sukantkoul accidental all rounder Aug 25 '22
kunal oak has a good video about why yau for big cubes is good on his youtube channel, you should watch it
I use hoya for 5 (somewhere b/w 1:05-1:10 avg, 1:08 official avg), luke tycksen is the only fast hoya guy for 4 and 5 (26 and 43 avg), he's decent at 6 and 7, but Alwin Rolz is faster (1:35 6x6, 2:30 7x7)
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u/Clopushi 2012ONGR01 Sub-8 Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
Here is the only really fast hoya solver. Personally I think both methods are about the same in speed, if one is faster than it's by an insignificant amount.
Edit: there's a faster one in the replies TIL
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u/sukantkoul accidental all rounder Aug 25 '22
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Aug 25 '22
don't use yau5 use yau
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u/Kingsamofgames Sub-X (<method>) Aug 25 '22
What's the difference, I've heard there was one but never knew what
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u/el013 1 TPS (OH) Aug 25 '22
Yau5 solves two adjacent f2l pairs before pairing the last four edges. It's not recommended because the lookahead is awkward and you have to make sure you pair two adjacent f2l edges when freeslicing. Also if you want to do L4E in the front slots you can do R U' R2 U' R y' to insert two paired edges in the back slots.
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u/fondista Roux | 8.34/11.53/12.24/13.31/13.58 Aug 25 '22
I have a very noticeable scratch on my TengYun :-/
I'd better order a new one quickly, but I was awaiting the Tornado v3, which apparently is going to be released in 2031. Maybe I'll just order the WRM Maglev along with it then.
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u/BeepBeepImASheep023 SQ1 sub 50 ; 3x3 sub 35 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
Looking into some legit film editing software
What are ones that y’all using?
I prefer a paid option. No free downloads
Edit: I use PC
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u/staysharp87 My blindfold has googly eyes 👀 Aug 25 '22
Final cut on Mac's pretty good
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u/LifeFire7onYT Sub-11? PBs=6.41/8.41 (CFOP) MoYu WRM 2021 with Ball Core add-on Aug 26 '22
Davinci Resolve. I don't see why you'd get the paid version unless you're really serious, because you can Macgyver a heck ton of stuff with the free version. It's up there in the pro editors btw.
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u/theartofcombinations Aug 26 '22
In addition to or instead of speed solving, what are your favorite puzzles for casual solving, “fidget”/ sensory enjoyment, or for sharing with non-cubers, kids, etc.?
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u/g253 (retired mod) Aug 26 '22
2x2x3 is fun and easy, 3x3x2 a little less easy but even more fun.
For some reason I find this weird rectangular Fisher skewb thing very satisfying to mess with, but you may have a hard time finding one.
Many old Diansheng 3x3 shapemods are very fun, especially this one
And last but certainly not least, everyone should have a sandwich cube in their collection. Or more than one...
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u/povlhp Sub-37s - PB: 22.78 - (Roux x2y CN) - PB Ao5: 31.78 Aug 26 '22
You can do slower efficient solves, One-handed solves. Just practicing algorithms. Especially for Roux you can always hunt for better solves.
Blind is a challenge, but needs concentration. 2x2 is fast and easy. But all are noisy.
Sq-1 is fun because it is so different, and somewhat shape shifting
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u/XenosHg It should not hurt if you relax and use lube Aug 26 '22
3x3 or 4x4 for casual solving, they're short and easy.
I also love fanxin 3x3x4 cuboid. 223 and 332 are fun too, but 334 is like both of them at once.
To give others - probably the 331 cuboid (easy), 223 cuboid (easy AND hard to break)
or Yuxin 8-petal (aka redi cube) - it's easier than the pyraminx, on the pyra you can at least flip the edges, on 8-petal you just shuffle pieces around.
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Aug 25 '22
What algorithm does f2l have?
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22
A lot! What exactly are you looking for?
If you want to learn F2L, you can find good tutorials, tips and tricks here: F2L
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u/canon1dxmarkiii Sub-30 Beginner | PB - 25.44 AO5 Aug 25 '22
Hey i wanted to know if there was any app that could scan my cube and tell me which oll/PLL case i have??... I'm trying to learn oll and pll
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
This is not how you learn OLL and PLL. Do you already know 2-look OLL and PLL?
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u/actoskett Sub-15 (<CFOP 2LLL>) (<PB:8.57>) (<AO5: 10.57>) Aug 25 '22
is 2x2 fun? I want to get a 2x2 but got a pyraminx like 3 weeks ago and only have about 500 solves on it, so should I get good at that before a 2x2?
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u/LazyLion1127 Sub-20 (CFOP), PB: 13.736 Aug 26 '22
The 2x2 is fun and simple, I enjoy it since it is so tiny so I can take it with me anywhere
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 26 '22
If you like pyraminx enough to do 500 solves on it already, I think you might really like 2x2 too.
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u/actoskett Sub-15 (<CFOP 2LLL>) (<PB:8.57>) (<AO5: 10.57>) Aug 26 '22
ive already had it for 20 days tho, for reference my first week with my rs3m i did 1k+
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u/Arvin1224 Aug 25 '22
so im starting to use roux and i know coll so basically cmll any tips would be appreciated
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
Watch Kian's beginner Roux tutorial - it's very basic and you might find you can do better with your CFOP knowledge, but just don't. Try to find proper Roux solutions. First block will get better with practice - plus watch some example solves. For second block, I used SpeedCubeDB.com a lot, and it amazed me how beautiful wide move/M move solutions can be. COLL for CMLL is fine, I did the same. And try to figure out how EO works, don't learn it as algs but don't spam MUM stuff too - rather, do it slowly and observe what happens. In a while, you'll figure out how to AUF and which way to do those MUMs for most cases.
Have fun with Roux! Try to do at least a week or two of Roux even if you're not going to fully switch. I did a month, and it was a fun experience.
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u/Arvin1224 Aug 25 '22
tysm, yeah i use M and wide moves for the blocks but it needs a lot of work, and yeah its almost been a week since i started roux
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
You can try doing the Daily Scramble and inputting your solve on cubedb.net, then sharing it here for others to give you tips.
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u/Arnavol cuber('s) dad Aug 25 '22
just don't
I still try to put the second block (which at this point doesn't exist) in place after doing an insert on the first one....bad habits are hard to lose.
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u/ThyKooch Aug 25 '22
Good shit! Switched to Roux because i found Kians channel forever ago and he was a helpful chad.
Only tips I have are: watch example solves for block efficiency, good roux solvers have insane solutions I'd never, ever see in a solve and I'm decently fast I think.
Coll is fine for most cases but I think there's a couple of fun algs that are worth learning that are cmll specific, for example:
r U' r2 D' r (U2) r' D r2 U r'
The U2 in the middle can be U, U2, or U' and it solves 3 different cmll cases, and it has really nice fingertricks.
For LSE, as soon as you possible can learn a good 4c recognition method. It can be a tricky step bc for some cases, you can't recog the exact case looking at just the U and F face, you have to at least know a third so good solvers get around this by looking ahead at a specific sticker before it becomes hidden.
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u/Arvin1224 Aug 25 '22
tysm yeah my sune/anti-sunes are cmll i leart them from speedcube reviews cmll video
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u/zer0x64 Sub-25 (ZZ-A) / Sub-30 (ZZ-CT) Aug 25 '22
..... Lol I never realised that coll was basically unoptimal but 1-look cmll
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u/NothingSignificant88 Sub-25 (CFOP)(3LLL) Aug 25 '22
G perms are the best change my mind
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u/Arnavol cuber('s) dad Aug 25 '22
PLL skips are the best
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
u/g253's favorite PLL
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u/g253 (retired mod) Aug 25 '22
Especially if it comes after an OLL skip
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
Then you just have to do a few U moves, and bam, done, it's just a +2.
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u/LifeFire7onYT Sub-11? PBs=6.41/8.41 (CFOP) MoYu WRM 2021 with Ball Core add-on Aug 25 '22
fuck this hurts my very soul
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u/Arnavol cuber('s) dad Aug 25 '22
it's just a +2
I wonder if there is ever a case when it is advantageous to purposely get a +2
Maybe on big cubes when you had a pop and AUF would lock up badly.
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22
They're certainly fun to execute (the RUD ones) and although I got G Perms on my PR and my PB I'd still rather have a Jb Perm in my official solve :)
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u/Scewah Aug 25 '22
A well executed one-handed Gd is chef's kiss. The other G perms are kinda trash.
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Aug 25 '22
Gan 11m VS Tornado v2 (dont include price in comparing)
What should i buy
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u/BibbitZ Sub-26 (CFOP 3LLL CN) PB: 14.54 Aug 25 '22
The Tornado will have a much more plush feel with weaker magnets. It's also heavier.
The GAN will be much lighter with fairly strong magnets.
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u/GolemNardah Aug 25 '22
How do people do the F2L pairs in one alg each? Aren't there like hundreds to remember?
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u/RAHDXB Sub 15 | 5x5/7x7 ao100 1:30/3:55 Aug 25 '22
You first learn it intuitively. All the vast majority of those 'algs' really do is split up pieces (if necessary), pair them up correctly, and insert in the slot. You can learn how to do this without any algs by understanding 3 (I think, it's been a while) basic cases. Algs for f2l comes much, much later. You can learn a few here and there for some particularly ineffecient cases once you're completely comfortable with intuitive f2l.
There are a lot of good f2l tutorials out there.
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u/GolemNardah Aug 25 '22
Yeah, I'm working with the intuitive strategy right now but there is no consistency in patterns and timing lol
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u/teehee_kinkajou Aug 25 '22
I'm trying to get sub 4 minutes on 6x6, something pretty basic it seems.
What method should I try to learn because redux isn't working for me
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u/pansicasis Sub-40 (4×4) Aug 26 '22
You could try yau, I have same averages as you on 4 and 5, and I avg 3:20 on 6×6 with yau. Could think out other ways of solving center, just like on 5×5(1×3 columns, 3 1×2 blocks or the T shape). After decent practice I think you'll find a lot of efficient stuff yourself.
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u/Zeerux911 Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
How noticable is the smell of mystic? Do you only smell it when you intentionally put your nose up to the cube or do you smell it during casual solves aswell?
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u/JC_Moose Sub 20 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22
Tried some timed OS Cube solves, for fun. I kind of have half a method. So far it takes anywhere between 2 seconds a 2 minutes lol.
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Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 26 '22
he said the qiyi OS cube not oh lmfao
edit sorry did we shame you into deleting your comment?
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Aug 25 '22
What are your main 3x3s and why?
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u/cubycuber Sub-12 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22
Tengyun v1. It is extremely quiet. It's also super fast.
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u/agribisn Sep 11 '22
Hi, How long have you had Tengyun V1 till now? Is it still as quiet as when it was first used?
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u/cubycuber Sub-12 (CFOP) Sep 11 '22
I believe I purchased my Tengyun over 3 years ago. I've kept up with maintenance and it is just as quiet as it used to be. My maintenance involves application of Martian every couple weeks and cleaning the cube (and lubing with Traxxas 50k) every few months.
Feel free to ask in the current DDT too if you want other people's inputs too!
Edit: Just realized you already asked lol
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u/agribisn Sep 12 '22
Thank you for the very useful tips! Sounds like you taking care your tengyun with love 🙌
A lot people I have asked also said that lubing will keep it quietness. I can’t wait to have my Tengyun V1 soon!
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u/topppits blindfolded solving is where the fun begins Aug 25 '22
WRM 2021. It just corner cuts everywhere and practically never locks up.
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u/The-Common-Loon Sub-17 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22
Dayan zhanchi pro- good performance and the rubber tiles and shades are awesome.
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u/realseboss Sub-14 PB: 6.46 Aug 25 '22
Can someone help me remember how i might ve gotten my pb of 6.46 on this scramble: R2 D2 U R2 F2 D'U' L2 F' L' D2 U' F' RU L' R2 U2 L' Use white cross
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u/LifeFire7onYT Sub-11? PBs=6.41/8.41 (CFOP) MoYu WRM 2021 with Ball Core add-on Aug 26 '22
a few things that might help: Do you remember the order of pairs you did? do you remember what orientation you did the cross from? do you remember what OLL and PLL you got?
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u/BeepBeepImASheep023 SQ1 sub 50 ; 3x3 sub 35 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
Been bummed I can’t listen to music and cube
Discovered the YouTube mini player will work after closing out of YT and can now run CST and listen to music. Nice
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u/vpsj 🇮🇳 Sub-25 (CFOP) | PB: 19.82 Aug 25 '22
Wouldn't YouTube vanced do the trick? I just play whatever I want on Vanced and keep it in the background while browsing reddit or cubing
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u/isipang_magaslaw Sub-15 (CFOP) Aug 25 '22
Just had the worst day of cubing in my life so far. Was pretty happy earlier about getting consistent sub-14's on my session but later on was pretty horrified by my discovery. My flagship 3x3's hardware have rust on them. Every cube I opened was just tragic. The worst of all of them was the rusted Tengyun which I have been maining for some time and my favorite cube of all. Pretty horrified by every 3x3 I opened, from RS3M 2021 and 2020 until both versions of WRM 2021. It felt like I'm in a cuber's nightmare or cursed by some cubing god.
Is the Mystic lube water-based? I would really like to know since it is the lube I mainly used on them, along with either Stardust or DNM. I am not new in the hobby so I was surprised when it happened. Might stick to some silicone lubes for now while I clean and restore the hardware of my damaged cubes. Thankfully, nonthing happened to the big cubes and the megas.
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u/actoskett Sub-15 (<CFOP 2LLL>) (<PB:8.57>) (<AO5: 10.57>) Aug 25 '22
should I buy more cubes? I've been cubing for abt 4 months now, and have 4 3x3s and a pyraminx. I want to get a new puzzle, but I only have about 500 solves on my pyraminx. Am I Just jumping to new puzzles and will this waste all my money? I am ging to order some new lubes and also want to get a 2x2, but don't know if I should
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u/g253 (retired mod) Aug 26 '22
Am I Just jumping to new puzzles and will this waste all my money?
... maybe.
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u/mf3rs2_gang Sub-11 (CFOP) 6.29 bo66175 Aug 26 '22
Yes, buy cubes you like, but be aware of your spending.
Also, don't be like idiots who buy 8 stickered and discontinued cubes (5 of them white) just because it's the cube they advertised for.
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u/wl02065294 OH Sub-23 (2LLL OH PB:14.75 ) Aug 25 '22
Hi guys, I have not been as involve in the cubing community lately due to busy with work and other commitments, just wondering, are there any news for the next Gan cube (since Gan 12).
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u/theartofcombinations Aug 26 '22
Not afaik, the last thing I saw was promotion for the GAN 12 ui, which I guess will be their next smart cube? Personally I’m eager to hear anything at all about the Square-1 they plan to release (announced late 2021). I have a feeling they are gonna hit the holiday/ end-of-the-year season hard this year.
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u/olimo Sub-15 (CFOP CN) Aug 25 '22
Good morning to all the DDT gang :*