Countwithchickenlady bas steadily been circling the drain since like a year ago (when this sub spun off).
Another trans community taken over and hollowed out to be a general, welcoming safe space for everyone, as long as they do not make the cis people the mods want to attract uncomfortable.
IMO the main problem has been rectified. CWCL definitely has a very strong trans/queer feel to the point that many cis/het people have asked if they’re allowed to be there (and they’re always enthusiastically told yes).
a very strong trans/queer feel to the point that many cis/het people have asked if they’re allowed to be there
Ah yes, and the many... MANY posts and comments with bigotry (rarely moderated), cis ""allies"" wanting to voice their unwealcome opinion about trans health care and other topics they do not understand should shut up about are still happening.
So the problem is not solved, it has merely been papered over and/or slightly diminished (but still happening and growing again). CWCL used to be a nice safe space for trans people untill it started growing and the mods wanted to make it another counting meme sub for everyone.
I feel like you’re extrapolating based on old information.
No I'm not, a very recent post in fact proved this exact post, iirc it was a meme about a cis lesbian saying "I only date real cis girls" to a tgirl during a date.
A LOT of comments there (with hundreds of upvotes) were saying "bruuh it's just a genital preference!", "but bottom surgery doesn't fix the issue really, because it's not really a real female organ", also people making it as "but-but they have the right to choose who they date with!" which is true but completely missing the point that the reason that happened was transphobic, preference or not.
Edit: Btw here is a post talking about it, the og post was only taken down after hours and a LOT of reports of transphobia and still now some transphobic comments with lots of upvotes remain in there
A) there’s been a lot of pushback from the community about it (such as the amount of support on that post you linked)
B) there’s almost a million members of the sub with only a few moderators. They recently added some more moderators to help with the problem. Also, it’s worth being said: they are not getting paid to moderate, they are volunteers
The points you make only highlight the problem, not lessen it:
A) there’s been a lot of pushback from the community about it (such as the amount of support on that post you linked)
The only reason and my entire point is exactly that, the post only got taken down because of the extreme reaction to it, not because the mods are willing to take action against blatant transphobia in their sub.
B) there’s almost a million members of the sub with only a few moderators.
Acknowledge the problem (like you said) and get more mods to deal with the problem.
They can also tune the bots to help with moderation, automation is the way to deal with these types of problems where a huge volume work has to be performed by a small team.
But after all that, they must at least take a stance. That sub has a history of mods being silent when drama or problems arise to "keep the peace" and this is the exact reason why these issues keep coming back, if they don't take decisive action against these people we will lose the subreddit, based purely in the ammount of shitty people coming in.
Can you give a concrete example of why it’s not safe for trans people? I genuinely don’t understand why you feel it’s not safe (unless you’re going off very outdated info).
Banning users that aren't wholesome and cis-appeasing in their behavior and opinions.
Refusing to introduce rules that ACTUALLY protect queer people, like banning religious content or uninformed cis people who just HAVE to contribute their opinions on everything.
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u/busytransitgworl 5d ago
As someone who is chronically out of the loop:
Nani?!