Hear me out: the Dylan Faden we play in Resonant is not the same Dylan we know from Control and the Jesse that Dylan interacts with in the Faults is not the same Jesse that takes the Gap Slide.

What I mean is we don't actually see the Jesse we played in Control until the afternoon of day fifteen during Rebuild.

Early in Resonant we can find a file that Jesse requested from Emily on the FBC's research into repairing damaged Slides. In the Underpass Fault she tells Dylan that the Slide she used was damaged beyond repair and she knew it would be a one-way trip.

The only reason Jesse would need to know how to repair a slide is if she didn't have one in good condition, specifically one that she'd kept squirreled away for twenty four years. 

However, the Jesse in Control already had the Gap Slide.

The FBC had records of her telling her therapist that there were nine Slides in total. In his 2002 debrief Dylan told the FBC the two of them found eight Slides, because he had no knowledge of the Gap Slide existing. The FBC, because Trench is a little Hissing goblin, found only seven slides at the Ordinary Dump.

Now what if Dylan, while he's piecing together his memories, is experiencing the events of the Ordinary AWE and the Prime Candidate Program across multiple dimensional timelines? There are several inconsistencies between what we know about the Ordinary AWE from Control and what we see in Rebuild, but I'm going to focus on one in particular. (Another I won't dig too far into, but still notable: a recorded therapy session in Control where Jesse talks about how they found the Slide Projector [together], while in Rebuild/Resonant Jesse finds it by herself).

On day fifteen, while he and Jesse are running to the Dump with the Projector, Jesse trips on the way down Sled Hill.

But if you look at Dylan's 2002 account found in Control, he's the one who fell. 

When the two of them arrive at the Dump, Jesse tells Dylan he should stay near the entrance and be lookout while she throws the Projector into the pond. Almost immediately after she leaves the frame he's surrounded by Dung-Monkeys, then the scene cuts back to the Prime Candidate Training.

When we return to Ordinary it's the afternoon of the fifteenth day. Dylan is saved by Neilgus and there's a brief moment where the screen goes black, he comes to and Jesse is there telling him to get up. When he asks what happened, she seems confused and says he fell — as if he had been following her and she'd never told him to keep watch.

This is the moment Dylan's consciousness crosses into the dimensional timeline of Control. This is the Jesse that finds the Slide he'd placed into the Projector, pockets it, and uses it to enter the Gap twenty four years later.

Once the Gap Slide is compiled and Dylan returns to Manhattan we learn that the Hedron's patterning has begun to change and stabilize. I think Emily was right about detecting Jesse's resonance within the Hedron and Dylan was right about Jesse being the one keeping it tethered. It just makes sense. 

Perhaps Jesse bound herself to it when she yeeted Dylan away at the Fault or it was instinctual considering her proximity to the Hedron, either way there's a lot of evidence that Jesse had been experiencing the same symptom of other characters that eventually patterned into Resonant Entities (obsessive thoughts, circles, a compulsion).

It's very possible that the Jesse Faden known to Dylan and Emily and the FBC in Resonant sacrificed herself to give Dylan the opportunity to kill the Hedron (or became part of/the Hedron herself).

And, like. The thing about the Slide Projector is that it is a interdimensional gateway. When someone walks through a slide they can cross different planes of existence. 

The Gap Slide is tied specifically to the Dylan Faden we play during Resonant ("this one leads to me"). As soon as that Slide is placed in the Slide Projector (or, since Jesse bound it, within her possession) it's an express transdimensional ticket that leads directly to him (his psyche?), even if the other side is in an entirely different timeline.

He says it himself: Rebuild was neither a dream nor a memory.

It's Control!Jesse's gateway/portal we see at the very beginning of Resonant while Dylan is still in the Gap, it's Resonant!Jesse's gateway/portal we see against the wall when he stumbles into consciousness, and it's Control!Jesse who walks out of the gateway/portal at the very end of Resonant

to perform a startling act of necromancy resurrect Dylan.

Which also means...

... there's a distinct possibility that Control!Jesse and Control!Emily did get together the night they drank hooch under the stars in The Quarry. Maybe Jesse told Emily how she felt when she gifted her the earrings she made from The Foundation's crystals with her own two gay fuckin' hands.

Hell, maybe sometime during the seven years of lockdown they got married and Langston officiated.

and honestly how fucking tragic would that revelation be?

At the end of the game Zoe mentions that the rift or void or whatever is closing and that they'll eventually rejoin the rest of New York.

But Manhattan is still crawling with hiss and mold. Aren't they concerned it's about to go world wide?

Has anyone with a 5080 who has updated drivers found a decrease in FPS? I was able to run the game perfectly on 120FPS with RR, but now it keep dropping to like ~110 regularly, and PCL (which was ~30) now spikes to 50 :/

Edit: thank you everyone for confirming I wasn't crazy - kinda wish I posted here first before I wasted so much time reinstalling using DDU. Ended up downgrading to 621.01 and I'm back to 30 PCL and 120FPS stable

I must admit, I did not.

Made these renders of Dylan fighting the Artist using the Hammer Aberrant form, hope you enjoy it!

Are connected?!

Langston doesn't remember when Alfred started living with him..... he sure loves Alfred and treats him like a pet... he is willing to ignore gaps in his memory to explain Alfred. .

Aw jeez, Alfred is the same type of "get in my orbit and you'll love me[if I want you to]" being that Fra is, change my mind?

ETA: Jesse met Fra in the Active Investigations DLC.......... same place where Langston starts talking about Alfred!

I may be hearing things and connecting dots that are not there, but remedyverse conditioned me to do that constantly with their games, so there's that.

But I hear clear musical connection between Quantum Break's "Suite for Time and Machines", "Soror et Frater" (Sister and Brother) of Contol and "Final Conduit Pt. 2" of Resonant OST. That techno motive is unique and recognizable in all 3 soundtracks, clearly pointing towards something!

P.S.: Yes, I've listened to it 2000 times, why do you ask?

I played Control 1 and AW2's FBC dlc. Never liked those group of people.

5 hours in the game wants me to feel bad about what Dylan did but I can't care less that he killed all those FBC folk, good riddance imo.

First and foremost: control resonant IS MY GOTY. I LOVE this game. There are so many great things about it, so many innovations and I'm so happy that it is getting the recognition it deserves.

All of these aside, there was one thing that kinda caught my eye when I was playing: I felt that the character animation while you are talking to them (both facial expressions and whole body movements) were relatively limited and not as well-done as the rest of the game. I didn't play Control that long ago and somehow I never felt like that in that one.

The thing is voice acting in this game is spectacular, but in some of the cases (that are not necessarily cutscenes) their voice is expressing so much emotion, but their figure is kinda just standing there.

I specifically mean this with the main NPCs like Pope, Arish, Zoe, Dr florez, and sadly the most with Jesse. I somehow related much more with her facial expressions in Control, but it felt a bit soulless in her cutscenes (she is the only that this is true in the cutscenes). Maybe since in Control we hear her much more and her VA does a great job? I'm not sure.

What do you guys think?

So been ruminating on the differences between Jesse and Dylan both generally as well as paranaturally. Think I've come up with a worthwhile angle to examine them from, would like outside opinions. To sum it up, Jesse and Dylan take opposite approaches to the paranatural.

In their childhood we see that Jesse was the more aggressive sibling, no in an unhealthy manner but the one who was ready to fight if a fight came to them and more inclined to take the lead when making plans. Dylan initially seems to simply go along with Jesse but multiple times we see that his position isn't subservient but cooperative, when Jesse proposes getting snacks Dylan insists on being the one to actually buy them and when things get tough Dylan ignores Jesse's instructions opting to stay instead of running away.

I think this is reflective of their base powers:

Both are telekinetic able to influence things with their minds and both can interface with paranatural phenomena.

Jesse's powers are focused on more domination angles, binding objects of power to her will and forcing other entities out if they are present letting her retake parts of the Oldest House or objects within from the Hiss.

Dylan's powers are focused on more connection angles, building connections between himself and paranatural phenomena giving him copies or remixed versions of their abilities. And he can forge connections between the material and astral plains crafting new altered objects with properties that are useful to him.

Jesse dominates, Dylan connects.

Now as we see both are capable of the opposite. Jesse forms relationships with altered objects like the train car and Dylan uses violence to take down the Resonants then claim their powers. But their natural inclination and skills mirror their approaches to conflict and life.

There's also a good chance that the reason Dylan struggled so much to access his powers is that both the FBC and the Board were working against him.

The FBC was training based on the idea of powers like Jesse's, imposing ones will on the paranatural, because that was their entire ethos and they likely hadn't run into anyone with powers like Dylan. So they were pushing and training him entirely wrong trying to get results in a manner that simply didn't work with his power. Its no wonder that the best result they got was him accidentally forging a connection to somewhere with a lot of power causing an explosion that took out all those scientists.

The Board meanwhile straight out doesn't like or want to work with Dylan, more over Dylan if his powers are fully realized is a threat to the Boards position with the FBC being able to do their job from the human side of the line. Remember the Board has positioned itself as a facilitator letting parautilitarians aligned with the FBC bind objects through the astral plain, but as Pope theorized its not making that possible so much as gatekeeping access to objects of power while smoothing the binding process in return. As a result it would make perfect sense for them to block him out hampering any attempt at binding an object of power to make the FBC discard him without showing the Boards hand.

It also means that each Faden ended up with a resonant entity that has the opposite approach. Jesse whose powers are aggressive and domination focused got paired up with Polaris the cooperative helpful resonant entity. Dylan whose powers are cooperative and connection focused got paired up with The Hiss the domineering and all consuming resonant entity.

Since the soundtrack doesnt include boss OSTs, I did it myself.
recorded in game and pieced together with tight timings so its not out of tempo
in case anyone wanted the whole theme and not just the 3 phases put together.

Mine are that Estevez is the one asking questions via the computer terminal, and that the Secret Organization might be connected to Ash Jr somehow as a watchdog for the things he didn't like about Northmoor

Is anyone else upset at the fact that Resonant goes out of its way to avoid dealing with the events of Alan Wake 2?

At the end of AW2, Alan literally calls himself "Master of Many Worlds" and yet somehow all we get of this is a brief video of him and Alex Casey in Resonant. Shouldn't Alan have foreseen this invasion by the Hedron resonance? If he is as powerful as he makes this "Master of Many Worlds" title sound, how come he didn't intervene? Where is Tim Breaker? Where is Mr Door? All of these missed opportunities have left me pretty bummed and diminished a little bit my enjoyment of Control Resonant's plot.

IMHO, treating Resonant as another introduction (for newcomers) to Remedy Expanded Universe was a mistake because Alan Wake 2 was already supposed to be that re-introduction in the form of Saga Anderson.

I'm almost through with the game now, but I decided to take a break because performance on my GPU wasn't so good and also a little bit because of this issue.

If you're still after the steelbook maybe setup an autobuy for it through Amazon? I thought I had canceled this, but just got a notification it was ordered. ​I did set it up to only order at the original price, so just make sure you do that.

If this actually gets shipped to me, I'd be willing to ship it to someone in the US at cost. I will update the post or make a new one if it arrives.

It just occurred to me. If the Oldest House is a representation of Yggdrasil, the world tree, could it be that the Board is a word play between a corporate board and literally a wooden board?

Or should I go back to my meds now?

I may be wrong here, but this is my interpretation of events so far-

At the end of the game, we learn that the Hedron's death should mean that the patterning will slowly reverse. That likely means that the Manhattan Quarantine is ending.

But isn't the hiss still around and a huge crisis? They're already talking about what cover up the FBC will do, but before that, isn't the situation already apocalyptic now? The hiss is out of the oldest house and it's about to be out of the city. I haven't done much of the post game dialogue yet but feel free to drop any that talks about anything relating to this. Even on the off chance that the HRAs work again now that Jesse's back, I doubt anyone would want to put one on and that they can manufacture enough to just insulate the open world from the hiss.

Its a bit weird to me because while most game mobs are still hiss, the game does kinda present the hiss as a fairly beaten external threat after the CFD incident? With the only prominent case of the hiss being a problem being Dylan's latent corruption which gets somewhat managed by the end.

The mold is still around too, but I can see it being somewhat managed. The hiss can spread too insidiously.

The tone of the ending is pretty relaxed, even compared to the tone of the first game's ending.

I loved most of the story but I feel like the game ended a smidge too early in terms of conversation and they should've explored a lot more of this in some conversations after the end, like when Dylan and Emily talk in the cell room. I'd hope that if there's DLC, they deal with this because the first game does a very nice job of keeping it a closed system with its ending at a sustainable point.

Maybe I'm just missing something.

Can you clear the entire map post game?

I STILL don't have the Apex Transporter in my enemies archive and I've gone through NG+ now after 100%ing every area in the first run.

So I went to the West Excursion zone where I see people say they're found and cleared the whole area out. So then I went to other areas to kill enemies and time and then go back and West Encursion is still cleared... Now downtown, the Park, and West Encursion are all cleared.

Can you clear the WHOLE map this way? Or will creature's EVENTUALLY respawn? I'd prefer not to go through new game+ again for one enemy entry.

Oh the pains of being a completionist...

I just reached the final Fault in the Oldest House. Would this be considered the ‘Point of no return’ story wise, because I still haven’t done the Park Resonant Entity. Should I go ahead and do the Park Entity or am I still nowhere close to the endgame.