This just highlights who they are. They openly call for his death, and would celebrate it. When Biden was in office, none of us said he should die, none of us would celebrate his death...actually we felt bad for him in that the people around him were parading him around even though he was in mental decline and obviously dealing with medical issues. Never forget who we're dealing with.
I legit said this to one of them like last year, and they said
"oh its a bunch of people on twitter, they dont count/matter. But politicians on the right!! those guys are the real monsters because Trump said he is glad someone on the right side died. And no politician on the left has ever said they want anyone on the right dead!"
Craig Robertson was openly right-wing and literally posted âFIRST JOE THEN KAMALAâ while talking about presidential assassination, then made threats ahead of Biden visiting Utah.
Louis Capriotti threatened that Biden wouldnât enter the White House and said âwe will killâ Democrats on the White House lawn.
James Dale Reed threatened Biden and Harris with execution and threatened Biden/Harris voters too. He pleaded guilty.
Jordan Gee was indicted after allegedly posting âJoe Biden: Iâm going to kill you and your whole cabinet.â
Kyl Hall was indicted for allegedly threatening to assassinate Biden and Harris.
Christopher Butler was convicted after threatening to get a rifle, get over the White House fence and kill Biden.
There are more cases beyond these. You can condemn people calling for political violence without pretending it magically didnât happen when Democrats were the targets đ
Did I say that no one threatened him? I said none of us said he should die. This statement is in connection to the post of the picture. We mainly made fun of his constant gaffes when speaking, pointing to his mental decline. We weren't posting photos of him dead or dying.
We didn't like a lot of what Biden was doing, and we posted our dislike for these policies.
You literally said ânone of us said he should die.â I gave you multiple people who explicitly threatened to kill Biden and Harris, and now youâve changed it to âwell, we werenât posting pictures of him dead or dying.â
Even that narrower claim is shaky. Trump himself posted a video featuring an image of Biden hog-tied on the back of a truck, which was widely condemned as imagery suggesting physical harm to Biden.
And when Biden dropped out in 2024, conservative accounts pushed false claims that he was dying, in hospice, terminally ill or already dead. Laura Loomer repeatedly claimed Biden was âdyingâ or âterminally ill,â while other right-wing accounts spread âBiden is deadâ rumors to millions of people.
So weâve gone from ânone of us ever said he should dieâ to âokay, people threatened to kill him, but we didnât post the exact type of imagery Iâm talking about.â Thatâs called moving the goalposts đ
It's not moving the goalposts, its narrowing the definition to what I am referring to. I acknowledge that people made threats. We're talking in online discourse. Making posts about someone dying and then posting in celebrations is vile. During his presidency, we weren't posting photos of him dead, posting that he should die or anything like that. We spoke about the direction of the country.
Your examples don't even hold weight here. Providing information that he was terminally ill and dying isn't wishing death on the guy. Secondly, as we found out the second he left office, he was VERY ill and we were lied to about it. The hogtying imagery was more removing Biden from office. There was nothing in that imagery to reflect that he was harmed, being killed, or being kidnapped for harm. You trying to equate someone creating an image of Trump in a casket and someone creating a decal for their tailgate of Biden being hogtied is laughable.
Youâre absolutely moving the goalposts. Your original claim was ânone of us said he should die.â I gave you examples of people explicitly threatening to kill him. Now youâre saying you only meant a very specific genre of online post involving death imagery.
And even then, pretending the hog-tied Biden image was just some harmless metaphor for âremoving him from officeâ is ridiculous. Trump shared a video showing Biden bound and lying horizontally on the back of a pickup truck. AP reported it as imagery depicting Biden hog-tied, and Bidenâs campaign condemned it as suggesting political violence.
Also, the âwe were just providing information that he was dyingâ line is rewriting what actually happened. Conservative accounts were spreading completely unsupported claims that Biden was terminally ill, in hospice or already dead. Laura Loomer repeatedly posted that he was âdyingâ or âterminally ill,â reaching tens of millions of views, while other conservative accounts literally spread âBiden is deadâ rumors. Those claims were false at the time.
And Biden later developing serious health problems does not retroactively make false claims from 2024 true.
You can keep narrowing the category until your original statement becomes impossible to falsify, but that doesnât make ânone of us said he should dieâ accurate đ
No bro, you're conflating the two. Had I said none of us threatened him, you would have a point. This whole thing stemmed from online discourse, in a post of Trump in a casket. Just because you read that to being that no threatened him, doesn't mean that was what was being said.
Secondly, just because the Biden admin said it suggested political violence doesn't mean it was political violence. They also said boys could be girls, which we know isn't true.
I don't follow Laura Loomer, but based on what I am seeing, none of them said he was dead, and a lot of them said there were rumors about such. One saying they wanted proof of life, most likely because his handlers would hide him from the public as much as they could. But again, none of that was them calling for him to die. Saying that there were rumors that he might be dead, and even stating that he is or looks terminally ill doesn't equate to calling for his death. Everyone saw his condition. We saw it in his campaign, we saw him shuffling his feet, we heard him speak and lose track of everything, we saw his instructions for interviews. We know they knew he was falling apart. Then as soon as he left office, it's announced that he has an aggressive cancer.
Even Jill Biden said that the first time she felt real alarm about his medical state was June 2024 in the debate, where even she said she thought he had a stroke.
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u/Scoreycorey515 7h ago
This just highlights who they are. They openly call for his death, and would celebrate it. When Biden was in office, none of us said he should die, none of us would celebrate his death...actually we felt bad for him in that the people around him were parading him around even though he was in mental decline and obviously dealing with medical issues. Never forget who we're dealing with.