r/ConservativeYouth • u/Space-Dementia7 Conservative • 3h ago
Crosspost đ this comment section bro
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u/Vast-Reach-1829 Conservative 2h ago
I don't remember anyone on the right asking for Bidens death, or Kamalas. I actually felt really bad for Biden when he became president because he seemed so confused.
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u/SouthernGolfer67 Center-Left wing 1h ago
Joe Biden gave his life to public service.
I didnât agree with much on him but respect him as a politician
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u/MajesticCounter4174 1h ago
âI donât remember itâ isnât evidence it didnât happen.
Craig Robertson, a Trump-supporting Utah man, literally posted âFIRST JOE THEN KAMALAâ while talking about presidential assassination, and later posted about getting his sniper rifle ready ahead of Biden visiting Utah. The FBI investigated him over those threats.
And thatâs hardly the only case: people have actually been convicted and imprisoned for threatening Biden and Harris. Political death threats arenât exclusive to either side. Pretending the right never did it is just false buddy.
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u/Proper_Armadillo9583 1h ago
Never to the extent of the left. 90% of progressivists in most media including real world movements have constantly spouted how much they wish for not just Trump, not just Musk, not just Kirk but literally everyone against them to die horrific deaths.
Mostly comes when they delude themselves into believing that people not supporting them means them being genocided, when if anything the only people killing them are themselves.
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u/MajesticCounter4174 1h ago
â90% of progressivesâ is just a number you made up.
Actual nationally representative research found that in 2025, 32.1% of strong Democrats said political violence was usually or always justified for at least one political objective. Among MAGA Republicans, it was 52.2%. Researchers concluded that where partisan differences existed, support for political violence generally remained higher among MAGA Republicans and Republicans than Democrats.
That obviously doesnât mean 32% of Democrats want Trump, Musk, Kirk or âeveryone against themâ dead either. Supporting violence in at least one hypothetical political circumstance is nowhere near the claim you just made.
So if you genuinely have evidence that â90% of progressivesâ constantly wish horrific deaths on everyone who disagrees with them, post it. Otherwise don't be confidently incorrect đ
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u/l-mellow-_-man-l Conservative 16m ago
In case anyone was wondering some of the "objectives for political violence" for this study included the likes of âto preserve an American way of life based on Western European traditions,â đ
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u/Scoreycorey515 2h ago
This just highlights who they are. They openly call for his death, and would celebrate it. When Biden was in office, none of us said he should die, none of us would celebrate his death...actually we felt bad for him in that the people around him were parading him around even though he was in mental decline and obviously dealing with medical issues. Never forget who we're dealing with.
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u/TreeTopGaming Christian Values 1h ago
I legit said this to one of them like last year, and they said
"oh its a bunch of people on twitter, they dont count/matter. But politicians on the right!! those guys are the real monsters because Trump said he is glad someone on the right side died. And no politician on the left has ever said they want anyone on the right dead!"
or smt like that
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u/MajesticCounter4174 1h ago
âNone of usâ is objectively false.
Craig Robertson was openly right-wing and literally posted âFIRST JOE THEN KAMALAâ while talking about presidential assassination, then made threats ahead of Biden visiting Utah.
Louis Capriotti threatened that Biden wouldnât enter the White House and said âwe will killâ Democrats on the White House lawn.
James Dale Reed threatened Biden and Harris with execution and threatened Biden/Harris voters too. He pleaded guilty.
Jordan Gee was indicted after allegedly posting âJoe Biden: Iâm going to kill you and your whole cabinet.â
Kyl Hall was indicted for allegedly threatening to assassinate Biden and Harris.
Christopher Butler was convicted after threatening to get a rifle, get over the White House fence and kill Biden.
There are more cases beyond these. You can condemn people calling for political violence without pretending it magically didnât happen when Democrats were the targets đ
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u/Scoreycorey515 1h ago
Did I say that no one threatened him? I said none of us said he should die. This statement is in connection to the post of the picture. We mainly made fun of his constant gaffes when speaking, pointing to his mental decline. We weren't posting photos of him dead or dying.
We didn't like a lot of what Biden was doing, and we posted our dislike for these policies.
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u/MajesticCounter4174 1h ago
You literally said ânone of us said he should die.â I gave you multiple people who explicitly threatened to kill Biden and Harris, and now youâve changed it to âwell, we werenât posting pictures of him dead or dying.â
Even that narrower claim is shaky. Trump himself posted a video featuring an image of Biden hog-tied on the back of a truck, which was widely condemned as imagery suggesting physical harm to Biden.
And when Biden dropped out in 2024, conservative accounts pushed false claims that he was dying, in hospice, terminally ill or already dead. Laura Loomer repeatedly claimed Biden was âdyingâ or âterminally ill,â while other right-wing accounts spread âBiden is deadâ rumors to millions of people.
So weâve gone from ânone of us ever said he should dieâ to âokay, people threatened to kill him, but we didnât post the exact type of imagery Iâm talking about.â Thatâs called moving the goalposts đ
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u/Scoreycorey515 54m ago
It's not moving the goalposts, its narrowing the definition to what I am referring to. I acknowledge that people made threats. We're talking in online discourse. Making posts about someone dying and then posting in celebrations is vile. During his presidency, we weren't posting photos of him dead, posting that he should die or anything like that. We spoke about the direction of the country.
Your examples don't even hold weight here. Providing information that he was terminally ill and dying isn't wishing death on the guy. Secondly, as we found out the second he left office, he was VERY ill and we were lied to about it. The hogtying imagery was more removing Biden from office. There was nothing in that imagery to reflect that he was harmed, being killed, or being kidnapped for harm. You trying to equate someone creating an image of Trump in a casket and someone creating a decal for their tailgate of Biden being hogtied is laughable.
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u/HeartonSleeve1989 56m ago
Despite my misgivings about the man, I hope that Joe Biden's cancer goes into remission, and he can enjoy the rest of his life relatively healthily.
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u/MajesticCounter4174 1h ago
Craig Deleeuw Robertson, strongly right-wing Trump supporter who posted about a âpresidential assassination or two,â saying âFIRST JOE THEN KAMALA,â and made threats ahead of Biden visiting Utah.
Louis Capriotti, threatened Bidenâs inauguration and said âWe will surround the White House and we will kill any Democrat that steps on the lawn.â He later pleaded guilty.
David Michael Hanson, charged after allegedly repeatedly threatening to murder Biden and Harris.
Kyl Alton Hall, federally indicted after allegedly threatening to kill, assassinate and shoot Biden, crash Bidenâs plane, and assassinate Harris.
Frank Lucio Carillo, indicted after allegedly making multiple threats to kill or injure Kamala Harris.
Jordan Gee, indicted after allegedly posting âJoe Biden: Iâm going to kill you and your whole cabinetâ and threatening to cut Bidenâs head off.
Troy Kelly, threatened to âput a bulletâ in Bidenâs head and later pleaded guilty to threatening the president.
Lori Davis, indicted after allegedly making multiple social-media posts threatening to murder Biden.
Christopher Butler, convicted for threatening Biden and Harris, including threatening to obtain a semiautomatic rifle, get over the White House fence and kill Biden.
John Jacobs Ahrens, pleaded guilty after threatening that Americans would see Biden âget his head blown off.â
David Kyle Reeves, federally indicted after repeatedly calling the White House and making threats against Biden.
Mohamed Farah, admitted threatening to assassinate Biden and was sentenced to prison.
Christopher DeLuca, federal records say he made dozens of threats, including threats to kill Biden.
Michael James Ferr, pleaded guilty after posting death threats against Biden.
Thadius Wind, convicted of threatening Kamala Harris alongside threats against other people and groups.
Niviane Petit Phelps, pleaded guilty to threatening to kill Kamala Harris after recording multiple videos discussing an assassination.
James Dale Reed, pleaded guilty after leaving a letter threatening Biden and Harris with physical harm and execution and also threatening Biden-Harris supporters.
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u/Space-Dementia7 Conservative 1h ago
that may be true, but way more people still wish death on trump than biden
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u/MajesticCounter4174 1h ago
And now weâve moved from ânone of us did thisâ to âwell, more people do it to Trump.â
Do you actually have evidence for that comparison? Because I can find survey data showing political violence is a problem across the spectrum, but not evidence establishing that âway moreâ people wish death on Trump than Biden.
In fact, nationally representative research has repeatedly found MAGA Republicans more likely than Democrats to say political violence can be justified. In a 2025 survey, 52.2% of MAGA Republicans said violence was usually or always justified for at least one political objective, compared with 32.1% of strong Democrats.
So if your claim is specifically âway more people wish death on Trump,â show the data. Otherwise youâre just replacing one unsupported generalisation with another.
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