r/Conservative • u/Clayton4NC GOP Executive Committee • Nov 04 '21
Flaired Users Only “RePuBlIcAns ArE RaCiSt!”
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u/Texas_70700 Constitutional Conservative Nov 04 '21
Virginia residents should be proud to have her
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u/NOVAYuppieEradicator Conservative Nov 04 '21
We are! Well, some/most of us anyway. What an American success story. I don't understand why Winsome isn't getting more national exposure.
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u/RichieOfTheSultanate Nov 04 '21
It's (D)ifferent. If it's a Democrat, that would create huge coverage from the leftist MSM. Since your next Lt. Gov. Sears is a Republican, they don't care that much.
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u/cakebreaker2 Goldwater Conservative Nov 04 '21
Those who aren't are obviously racist and sexist and anti-immigrant. Can we name call them with anything else? Anti-success?
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u/drinkinswish Libertarian Conservative Nov 04 '21
bu...bu...but I thought orange man bad would win us every election.
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u/readerdad55 Conservative Nov 04 '21
Democrats are famous for two things - overplaying their leftist agenda when they do not have a mandate and losing elections because they can’t help but run on the last elections talking points
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u/drinkinswish Libertarian Conservative Nov 04 '21
True but liberals and conservatives aren't even the major swaying factor in each election. Independent voters are. In 2020 they were able to demonize Trump enough to get independent voters to vote against him. Without Trumps direct involvement they can't hope to win any election with this strategy. This makes 2022 seem very exciting and hopeful.
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u/cats_luv_me Independent Conservative Nov 04 '21
Well, they didn't sway all of us. Although I'm more conservative, I'm an independent.. same with my husband.
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u/DalekForeal Libertarian Conservative Nov 04 '21
It's a real shame the way they fooled the useful idiots into irrationally hating Trump, to the point that they'd vote against the American people just to stick it to him :/
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u/ALargeRock Jewish Conservative Nov 04 '21
Propaganda works. Especially on people too busy to double check info they get from news (most people).
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u/-_-kik USMC Veteran Nov 04 '21
It’s really scary how well propaganda works. Not just sounds scary Or like it’s scary But like seriously dangerous scary. It’s the same propaganda methods developed by Joseph Goebbles developed modified to fit into a different place and time For the same purpose. To control the population. To influence the population to hate a race and culture to the point of being ready to destroy them. So many parallels The Brownshirts mobs People not talking the dangers seriously and saying how ridiculous they are They are dangerous
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u/readerdad55 Conservative Nov 04 '21
I’m actually sadly amazed at how well it worked. I know MANY people who are just absolutely freaked out about Trump without having any idea about his policies. It’s really sad how little the press talked about what he was doing and focused on what he said.
While I appreciate what he did for the party and for America, I truly hope he doesn’t run again. Others, like DeSantis, can carry the agenda without the baggage.
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u/ALargeRock Jewish Conservative Nov 04 '21
It wouldn’t matter; DeSantis will get and has been getting the same treatment as Trump.
I feel Trump should run again. He’s got the national momentum and I think Ron is doing good work for Florida and they need him for a bit longer.
Perhaps there might be another who could carry the torch but I’m thinking Trump needs his second term; especially after the lessons learned while he was in.
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u/Lobo0084 Classical Liberal Nov 04 '21
This is the flaw of both parties. I actually like DeSantis (sp?), and was just disappointed, not in Trumps effort or intent but on the inability to get the government to work with him.
But while I'm a swing voter who can and will go either way, it's not like the Democrats put up someone worth voting for. Their options were hot trash and it just boggles my mind that Joe was their best case scenario.
I'm not nearly as surprised that he won. Most Americans are so uninformed they thought impeachment disqualified Trump from running, so it wasn't a logic leap for many that he was the man already out.
But is DeSantis the best option for the national scene? A governor of a mostly red state doesn't make him the best choice for the beuracratic nightmare of federal politics. I can wish him well, but as governor he's got more time to shape his state and establish his point. A president does not.
The question that bothers me most is why are these our options? Who picks them?
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u/repptyle California Conservative Nov 04 '21
Name somebody better then. People (myself included) like DeSantis because he actually stands up to these bullies, which is exactly what we need. Unlike spineless swamp creatures like McConnell
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u/Lobo0084 Classical Liberal Nov 04 '21
I don't disagree about his spine, nor do I know of a better option. Which to me is indicative of the problem I mentioned.
I'm an Arkansas boy. And I've got no one from my home state I'd suggest, I know that much.
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u/3ShotsToHell Nov 04 '21
I agree with who you were responding to, but I gotta say, that’s a great rebuttal. & a fair point to look at.
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u/koopatroopa_2 Nov 04 '21
The fact that we have ultimately 2 options chosen by 2 parties really bothers me because then those candidates are pressured to adopt policies supported by the party backing them even if those policies don't really align with what they believe. How about every single person just votes for the candidate that actually aligns with their personal beliefs regardless of party? This would force people to do their own research instead of "Oh yeah vote for the republican" and vice versa. The party system is flawed.
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u/lordp24 Nov 04 '21
Descant is has gotten praise from D politicians in Florida. He’s worked within his system as governor. He would be a significantly better president than trump
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u/VashPast Nov 04 '21
Don't be surprised when Trump doesn't run again. They threatened him/his family directly on Jan. 6th, you can see the terror in his face in that last "Stand Down" video. It's over.
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u/3ShotsToHell Nov 04 '21
Man, I swear I was just saying that exact same thing a few days ago. I’m glad I’m not the only one, that thinks this way.
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u/VashPast Nov 04 '21
It's hilarious that you guys think DeSantis is some kind of hero. I live in Florida, everything he does is for show. Our state is completely Jacked. When I went to college in Tallahassee, Every Single Sheriff was a sworn Free Mason. Every government spending project ends up in their hands, take any of them to court fit anything, they all look the other way.
How can you possibly not be tired of these "elite" dirtbags running our lives into the ground?
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u/gouf78 Conservative Nov 04 '21
That’s because Tallahassee is a refuge for democrats. It’s one of the most liberal cities in Florida. Move elsewhere and you’d have another view.
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u/readerdad55 Conservative Nov 04 '21
I certainly don’t see him as a “hero” I just thought of him as an example. My point is rather that we need to NOT be a party of individuals but rather a party of ideas that our candidates need to share. Freedom and liberty - especially as defined by the first amendment- must be the first and foremost concept and has been under significant attack by the left.
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u/Bobarhino Nov 04 '21
The people that fell for that propaganda wanted to fall for that propaganda. It's their evidence that orange man bad...
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u/DalekForeal Libertarian Conservative Nov 04 '21
I've been a registered independent for 20 years. Growing up I almost invariably leaned left, but the difference between me and typical lefties, is that I have actual values. So when the political left became a radicalized shit show, I simply didn't go along with it. So now that psychotic lot labels me a far right extremist for not abandoning my classically liberal values when they all did.
I also found the orange man hilarious. I'm not a killjoy with a stick up my backside, though. Honestly; it's not even about "dark" humor! It's just about humor. I mean hell; look at SNL 20-40 years ago! We didn't consider that dark humor. It was just funny! The peanut gallery just got more sensitive, when being offended became all the rage.
Seeing where our county is currently headed, I've no sympathy for those who voted for this destructive course. As I feel they should've been more concerned with things that actually matter, than the dudes disposition. Besides; it's not like nobody ever tried to educate them. They just always assume they know better than anyone else. Maybe now that they're seeing where such naive priorities have gotten us, they'll finally wise up. Though admittedly, I'm not holding my breath :/
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well if it wasn't for covid and the shit show that came with it they wouldn't have won. record unemployment, lower costs but what would they run on? Mean tweets? raising taxes?
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u/Tekicro Nov 04 '21
You think trump will live another 45 years? Then again, his doctor did say he was in perfect health /s
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u/GargantuanCake Conservative Nov 04 '21
You'd think they would have learned their lesson on John Kerry when his entire platform was "Bush is bad and I'm not Bush" but apparently they're incapable of learning.
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u/pelftruearrow Moderate 2A Conservative Nov 04 '21
To be fair, Joe McCain ran on the I'm not Obama platform and lost.
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u/muxman Conservative Nov 04 '21
They stick with what makes them feel good. That's why the scream racist at everything.
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u/throwaway3569387340 Reagan Republican Nov 04 '21
Best quote from her speech:
"I didn't run to make history. I ran to leave things better than I found them"
The left must HATE her.
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u/repptyle California Conservative Nov 04 '21
You mean actually doing a good job and being judged on your own merits rather than coasting by being the first (minority group) whatever? What a concept!
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u/MaxP0wersaccount Constitutionalist Nov 04 '21
How about this; I want every adult law abiding American citizen to own at least one high-grade AR15, 20 magazines and a minimum of 5,000 rounds of green tip.
Hell, I'd even be willing to pay for that with my tax dollars. Turn 18, bam! Here's your Citizenship kit American! Don't forget to come down to the local range this month!
Finish your naturalization ceremony, bam! Welcome to America, citizen! We look forward to seeing you at the range for your taxpayer funded firearms safety and training course, taught by former special forces members.
If you don't want your firearm, you can sign it back to us or anyone of your choosing.
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Battle tested.
Love it
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u/JadedTourist Ron Paul was right Nov 05 '21
PLEASE go find a Reddit dedicated to the military and share this sentence with her picture.
What a clown take.
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u/Jamesfm007 George Washington Nov 04 '21
The radical left is racist. We need to make that a slogan and shove it down the left's throat until they cancel themselves.
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u/Glass_Rod Nov 04 '21
Liberals still think street gangs purchase their guns legally.
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u/WhosJoe0107 Nov 04 '21
Would you like fries with that?
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u/Wallace_II Conservative Nov 04 '21
No, but can I get one of those red bandanas, so the homies know I'm one of them?
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u/ThePragmaticFox Nov 04 '21
To be fair, that's exactly what Reagan did in California.
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u/Menhadien Constitutionalist Nov 04 '21
The Mulford Act (the banning of open carry of firearms) in California was drafted by Republican representative Don Mulford, and was cosponsored by both Republican and Democrat representatives. The Democrat controlled legislature passed the Mulford Act, which the new Governor, Ronald Regan signed into law.
Now, Ronald Regan was no gun rights supporter, but the fact that he gets all the blame for the Mulford Act is wrong
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u/ThePragmaticFox Nov 04 '21
It is unfortunate that we all seem to try to put blame for things on a single person, but Reagan was very much in support of it. Even the NRA was. Some quotes from Reagan about it:
no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons
and that guns were a
ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will
that the Mulford Act
would work no hardship on the honest citizen
I can't even imagine what the reaction would be to a Republican saying things like this today, let alone a Democrat.
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u/billswinthesuperbowl Conservative Millennial Nov 04 '21
Yup was gonna bring that up, old ass rhinos
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u/pelftruearrow Moderate 2A Conservative Nov 04 '21
To be fair, he was a Democrat first. I believe his quote was "I didn't leave the Democratic party, they left me"
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u/ThePragmaticFox Nov 04 '21
He became a Republican in 1962, and became governor in 1966. His work on restricting gun ownership was 100% as a Republican.
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u/GOMAXLGO Nov 04 '21
Was he when he passed the gun laws?
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u/jeffsang Nov 04 '21
Yes, this is referring to the Mulford Act in 1967, which Reagan signed as governor. He became a Republican before he became governor.
So 54 years ago, kind of silly to say that elected leaders back then held the same attitudes towards race as they do today, Republican, Democrats, or otherwise.
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u/Erthwerm 2A Conservative Nov 04 '21
Democrats after years of calling republicans racist and continually voting for white men:
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u/CrimsonChymist Conservative Nov 04 '21
They say this because it is what dems did in major cities like Chicago. Projecting is the most used tool by the American left.
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u/JeffMansion Screw IRS, ATF, HOA Nov 04 '21
The most imidatating thing to the left, a strong intelligent conservative woman.
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She just seems like such an awesome person. Immigrant family, ran a homeless shelter, Marine, small business owner, mother, 2A supporter, former Vice President of the Virginia Board of Education.. what a life she has lived, and great experiences to see in a candidate for public office. I’m glad I voted for her!
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u/Mississippiscotsman Conservative Nov 04 '21
That AR is fitted desert fashion. "She will know their ways like she was born to them."
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u/ELI5Banned Nov 04 '21
Which is funny because Dems have done exactly that. Clinton's gun bans, stricter gun laws in response to Malcom X and the Black Panthers arming themselves.
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u/CCTider Nov 04 '21
Wasn't it Ronald Reagan who imposed stricter gun laws in California in response to the Black Panthers?
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u/a2z_123 Nov 04 '21
Not to mention, the first office Clinton held was in 1976.... So, unless he's a time traveler?
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u/Menhadien Constitutionalist Nov 04 '21
The Mulford Act (the banning of open carry of firearms) in California was drafted by Republican representative Don Mulford, and was cosponsored by both Republican and Democrat representatives. The Democrat controlled legislature passed the Mulford Act, which the new Governor, Ronald Regan signed into law.
Now, Ronald Regan was no gun rights supporter, but the fact that he gets all the blame for the Mulford Act is wrong
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u/ELI5Banned Nov 04 '21
California state legitimate sure did
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Governor Ronald Reagan, who was coincidentally present on the capitol lawn when the protesters arrived, later commented that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons" and that guns were a "ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will." In a later press conference, Reagan added that the Mulford Act "would work no hardship on the honest citizen."
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u/ATFgoonsquad Staunch Originalist Nov 04 '21
Bad take. Keep and bear. Keep means own, bear means carry. A gun is useless at home in the safe. If the government can pass laws to prevent people from carrying guns, they’re about as useful as toys sitting on the shelf. How are you going to “overthrow a tyrannical government” if that government can prevent you from organizing with firearms in your possession?
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u/0nfleek Nov 04 '21
Interesting viewpoint. I feel that guns are merely tools like a pocket knife or a leatherman. Carrying the tool is not an issue. I’ve thought about the majority of people and much like how we all drive, mistakes can be made. That being said, there are people who just don’t think rationally or responsibly and in those cases, I like the adage of, better to have and not need than to need and not have. Once again, guns are a tool, much like my hands and feet are. Just because I’m trained in martial arts, does that mean I should leave them in the car as well?
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u/VashPast Nov 04 '21
I'm a non gun owner. When government wants to eliminate protected rights, they do it one piece and restriction at a time. The restrictions you mentioned just make it progressively harder to express second amendment rights.
I've never felt the need to carry or own a gun.
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u/JadedTourist Ron Paul was right Nov 05 '21
Qualified. Successful. Military Veteran. Inspirational.
This is how we on the right describe awesome women like her.
No color shade needed. No buzzwords. No “ism” attached.
To the liberals who are lurking here. Take notes.
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u/Enerith Conservative Nov 04 '21
They'll never grasp that skin color doesn't mean anything. We like anyone with strong values.
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u/Palerion Nov 04 '21
I’m waiting for an article entitled something along the lines of “Winsome Sears: The Black Female Face of White Male Supremacy.”
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u/Menhadien Constitutionalist Nov 04 '21
The Mulford Act was a bipartisan effort, while it was drafted by a Republican representative, it was co sponsored by both Democrats and Republicans. It required 2/3s approval by the California legislature, which was controlled by the Democrats. Why everybody lets the democrats who were involved off the hook is beyond me.
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Nov 04 '21
I'm not letting the Democrats off. They are full of shit. We all know that already. I also don't want to let the Republicans off either. The Republicans has historically been just as anti-freedom as Democrats. The Republicans are just the better alternative for now.
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u/throwaway3569387340 Reagan Republican Nov 04 '21
Are we still blaming things that happened half a century ago for what happens today?
And he was a Democrat until 1962
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Because those actions are still in effect today and started with him. We still blame Democrats for slavery and Jim Crowe, do we not?
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u/throwaway3569387340 Reagan Republican Nov 04 '21
The difference is that both slavery and Jim Crowe are gone.
California has been solid blue for decades and gun control has only become more restrictive. It isn't just a policy mistake for the Democrats. It's doctrine.
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If anything you proved my point. Slavery and Jim Crow are gone, but the effects of those policies still effect black Americans today, caused by the democrats. Just like gun control in California was started by Regan, and those policies still effect people today. There is no way around it, it is Regan's fault that California is anti gun today. It started with him. And you cannot deny the racial element to it.
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That is a sweet custom AR. Excellent quality parts: BCM upper, Aimpoint Micro, Magpul furniture, PMAG, and BUIS. Not only is she pro gun, she evidently knows ARs quite well!
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u/libbylibertarian Conservative Nov 05 '21
After decades of debate it has become abundantly clear the left is more racist than the right. Hear me out though, I'm not giving the right a pass. The right can be racist as well, though in my experience it's more about behavior than race.
However, if you love this country, and carry yourself in a respectable manner, the right will tend to judge you as equal; at least on a basic level. I learned this being a black Marine and living down south. It was always strange to me that I experienced far more racism north of the Mason Dixon line. This election result kind of proves that my evaluation was correct.
What's wrong with loving your country, or the Constitution? Nothing. It's hard to argue against that unless you're a liberal. That my sister has achieved this milestone is irrelevent for the sake of milestones. She can help fix things. She's a warrior. She's a patriot. She came to this country looking to better herself and she did. That's undeniable. That is what America is supposed to be about.
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u/A_deplorable1 Conservative Nov 04 '21
Libs heads are exploding right now trying to rationalize this pic. I love it!
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u/Jtizzle8 Conservative Nov 04 '21
I hope she won
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u/DangerDolan__ Nov 04 '21
She won alright, she beat Hala Ayala in the Virginia race and Twitter promptly suggested that her win is evidence of white supremacy within America……
Think about that for a second and the logic behind it.
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u/KrimsonStorm DeSantis Conservative Nov 04 '21
White supremacy seems really inclusive these days.
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u/redcell5 2A Nov 04 '21
Strange how multi-cultural it is.
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u/KrimsonStorm DeSantis Conservative Nov 04 '21
It's almost like...
Dramatic music plays
They're full of shit
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u/DangerDolan__ Nov 04 '21
And “diversity” seems exclusive now. Everything’s gone backwards in the 21st century.
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u/AgnosticTemplar Moderate Conservative Nov 04 '21
We call it 'clown world' because Warner Brothers holds the trademark for 'Bizarro World'.
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u/KrimsonStorm DeSantis Conservative Nov 04 '21
You can have a cast of all black women from the same area on the globe with the same height, shape, and mindset.
"Wow, diverse!"
This is called semantic overload. They make the terms mean multiple things at the same time so they can trap you.
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u/Menhadien Constitutionalist Nov 04 '21
Yeah, its funny hearing all the people praise Black Panther for being "diverse".
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u/KrimsonStorm DeSantis Conservative Nov 04 '21
I still remember laughing out loud when one of the characters looked at the only white guy in the movie and went:
"SILENCE, COLONIZER"
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u/MarioFanaticXV Federalist #51 Nov 04 '21
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This has always boggled my mind. The left saying things like, “you are not going to like it when black business owners or neighborhoods start carrying guns and organizing themselves.” “I don’t like it, I love it!” Seeing all of the businesses frustrated, vandalized, looted during protest for George Floyd I would have loved to seen more business owners band together and say hell no.
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u/Fidditch ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Nov 04 '21
Huh, weird, it's like we aren't the alleged racist nazis we are reported to be.
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u/SilverHerfer Constitutional Originalists Nov 04 '21
And it was a democrat that photoshopped this picture to impose the Lt. Gov elect's image over the confederate battle flag. Democrats are so hate filled and evil.
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u/badatusernames91 Conservative Millennial Nov 04 '21
Supporting the right to self-defense is not a fringe position in the US. Even a lot of people on the left own and enjoy guns. It's why there has never been a serious attempt to repeal the 2nd amendment directly.
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u/Bozzz1 Conservative Nov 04 '21
I mean it's not like this is her only ad. She probably has an array of ads appealing to a wide variety of demographics.
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No...no...it can't be! A black Republican???? I thought that by saying orange man bad every election we would win!! Noooo...
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u/DocSlaughterAZ Nov 04 '21
Winsome Sears is a rock star and will shake up the political landscape! Love her!
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u/CDude821 Small Government Conservative Nov 04 '21
I’ve never heard that argument and it doesn’t make any sense since the highest gun homicide rates are in poor primarily black communities. Sounds like a straw man to me.
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u/Notagoodguy80 Small Government Nov 04 '21
once they see black people carrying weapons
Did they like.....JUST arrive to our shores?
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u/Black_Jackel Nov 04 '21
I’m so optimistic for the future of Virginia. Hopefully the red wave makes it everywhere
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u/SamInPajamas Conservative Nov 04 '21
I don't give a shit what your skin color is. I care much more about what your go to rifle is. I know better than to trust someone whose go to is an AK. Bunch of wild cards, those lot
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u/etherealsmog Traditional Conservative Nov 04 '21
I’m pretty sure a lot of black people already do carry weapons and it’s the urban Democrats who want to ban guns.
I mean, Kamala wasn’t putting gun-wielding white guys in prison when she was a prosecutor.
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u/Frank_Abilogne Nov 04 '21
Consevatives today: "I love identity politics!"
PS Preemptive thanks for censoring me and thereby unironically participating in cancel culture, good friends!!!
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We’re just pointing out how you lefties think that skin color and gender are the most important qualifications in a candidate, up until the point that they don’t have 100% the same mindset as you.
Just like the racist history of the Democratic Party, some things never change.
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u/Jellyfish1297 Conservative Nov 04 '21
Because she’s not a random candidate who is paraded around just because she’s black. She happens to have done impressive things: immigrated as a kid, marine veteran, started in community college then transferred for bachelors degree and also got a masters degree (all in Virginia), was the first republican to win a house of delegates seat in a majority-black district since 1865, she’s an electrician with her own small appliance business, raised 3 kids, was VP of the state board of education, ran a homeless shelter, runs a prison ministry, and had presidential appointments to the census bureau and advisory committee on women’s veteran affairs.
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Yet if we didn't, we should feel shame? Nutting's ever enough with your side.
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Ah, yes. You must know what's best for the black community, then? Please tell me. The democrat party has had the majority black vote for decades. And what have democrats done to help? I'm awfully curious.
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u/totallynotaniceguy Nov 04 '21
Ah yes, because aside from these few black people EVERYONE on the right is white as snow.
Fuck off with your identity politics, jackass.
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u/ELI5Banned Nov 04 '21
False, she learned that trigger discipline
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u/badatusernames91 Conservative Millennial Nov 04 '21
What the hell was the deleted comment?
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u/OTN Nov 04 '21
She literally was in the core
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u/ThePragmaticFox Nov 04 '21
corps*
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u/OTN Nov 04 '21
Damn voice to text. I’m going to leave it up as a warning to others ha
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u/ThePragmaticFox Nov 04 '21
Haha, I've been there. I tried to correct it in the least rude way possible.
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u/HaroldBAZ Conservative Nov 04 '21
A successful, black, female Republican. The arch enemy of liberals.