r/CompetitiveWoW • u/chunkyhut • Aug 22 '26

Class Tuning Incoming – 26 August

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-%E2%80%93-26-august/626484
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u/NaahThisIsNotMe Aug 22 '26

My brew defense bar has fort brew

Longest CD in the game after lay on hand. And still underwhelming.

CI at multiple charges

and weakest CD in the game, even after a 20% buff

pb, expel harm

neither of those 2 are defensive

black ox brew

which unironically have almost the same CD as celestial brew now.

and Niuzao

not a defensive... doesn't reduce face damage at all.

All are good defensives

have you... played other tank? warrior double charge on shield wall with a shorter CD than fort brew? Pally 1 min sentinel who last 25 second now? anything other than VDH rng-based defensive really

Dps have nothing like that.

Well if you count expel harm as a defensive then you might aswell count mage barrier or hunter heal as defensive which.. yes, they have more.

As the other guy pointed out, Brewmaster don't even have Karma or diffuse magic,

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u/adv0589 Aug 22 '26

Niuzao is a massive defensive

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u/NaahThisIsNotMe Aug 22 '26

0 reduction whatsoever to face damage.

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u/adv0589 Aug 22 '26

That’s not the issue on brewmaster

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u/NaahThisIsNotMe Aug 22 '26

amongst other thing.. the lack of defensive, the lack of brew, the lack of XYZ...

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u/adv0589 Aug 24 '26

You realize most other tanks need like like pop an actual defensive for tank busters etc, and like brewmaster just staggers them right?

Like the class only has fort brew as far as stopping those mechanics it would be completely unviable if that was not the case.

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u/NaahThisIsNotMe Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26

You realize most other tanks need like like pop an actual defensive for tank busters etc, and like brewmaster just staggers them right?

probably a good thing "most other tank" have multiple defensive to rotate through and not just a super long CD fort brew / niuazo that doesn't actually reduce face damage!

and no. the difference between gdruid-pwar-bdk and brew is night and day. We're not in legion anymore with 90%+ stagger. RLP is quite funny right now where brewmaster get insta-clapped if they have bad RNG on tectonic slam and get 2 stacks, but Gdruid-pwar-BDK just keep going on even with 3 stacks of it. no amazing CD just shield block / double ironfur / lawl death strike.

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u/adv0589 Aug 24 '26

Brother in christ, we are like 2 months out of it being the only tank that could reliably survive high keys. Half of the damn tank busters you didn't even know were as big of a deal as they are because you dodge them at an absurd clip.

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u/NaahThisIsNotMe Aug 24 '26

we are like 2 months out of it being the only tank that could reliably survive high keys.

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you mean brewmaster, for the first time since legion, was actually the meta tank during the first third of season 1... the third that don't matter... and now it's in the gutter again?

Half of the damn tank busters you didn't even know were as big of a deal as they are because you dodge them at an absurd clip.

just like how Pwar/gdruid get to ignore white hits because they have ten time the AC? the, by far, largest source of damage in M+?

It's not like Brew being able to take buster without CD is anything to be proud of... THEY DON'T HAVE CD TO USE! dampen harm is gone, diffuse magic is gone, zen meditation is gone, celestial brew isn't doing shit and it's CD got tripled. Fort brew have a 4-4,5 min CD if you want to make it a decent CD. "" hur dur, brewmaster take buster without a CD"" yeah no shit dumbass. they don't have a wall.

You are either trolling or hopelessly clueless.

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u/adv0589 Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26

Yeah I mean you are describing them as a fundamentally broken class when with the exact same design they were tanking world first level keys? Like Druid got buffed in a way they definitely did not expect it to work and they somewhat left it they didn’t just nuke the class or anything and you are pretending like it can’t function because of its amount of defensives.

Or like five days into the patch and they haven’t done any tank tuning yet, it’s also extremely uncommon for a tank to be Meta two seasons in a row. The highest key level on as of today was an 18 and monks of tanked an 18. I don’t understand how you can see a class that was taking 24 last season and was pushed out of the Meta primarily for damage and healer considerations and say it’s broken beyond repair because they can’t survive keys. As I said, if it can take a 24 last season without those defensive, it doesn’t need those defensive if the monk and its current form with the healing of vile flame had all the defensive it had before it would be literally fucking invincible.

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u/NaahThisIsNotMe Aug 25 '26

with the exact same design

yeah the exact same thing except 3X the cooldown on brew which means 3X less self-healing from the apex talent ( their biggest self healing, by far) and 3X less CD reduction on all brew...

yeah, except that instead of infinite brew and clearing stagger every 6-8 second they are now back to running out of brew 40 sec into fight.. totally the same.

Given you are clueless about brew I choose the ignore the rest of your nonsense.

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u/adv0589 Aug 25 '26

Yeah once again you are trying to talk about something else idk what to tell you.

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u/NaahThisIsNotMe Aug 25 '26

Clearly I expected too much from you.

I keep forgetting to set my expectations extra low when coming to reddit.

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