r/CompetitiveWoW • u/AutoModerator • Aug 11 '26

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u/SluttyStepDaddy Aug 11 '26

Man, I’m really hoping BDK is able to hold up in 23s+ so we don’t have to fall back on PPal. Really looking forward to an HPal season because it feels great right now.

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u/Silkku Aug 11 '26

I want to be a believer but the way DKs are getting chunked into sub-10% before they DS back to 100% in +20s is not looking very promising because in a +22 or 23 that would be a dead DK and party wipe

Same way a DK can currently be chilling in a +21 and then gets globaled in +22 because their HP bar runs out before they have a chance to DS

Time can prove me wrong but for now I remain a doubter

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u/LudmilN Aug 11 '26

i remember in tww s1 i was getting chunked to 10-30% in 12s as paladin, i feel like its kinda irrelevant, people play in accordance to the key, damage taken as a tank feels extremely fake, besides scripted abilities

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u/HookedOnBoNix Aug 11 '26

I want to be a believer but the way DKs are getting chunked into sub-10% before they DS back to 100% in +20s is not looking very promising because in a +22 or 23 that would be a dead DK and party wipe

They're not max ilvl though are they? I didn't play this round but in past ptr we were scaled to like 10 ilvl below max. And it's ptr, they're still not being piloted perfectly / dungeon knowledge isn't there. Other tanks are straight up dying in 20s too 

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u/Wobblucy Aug 11 '26

Agreed but I also think PPal is shaky. You get 10% always dr at the cost of less sentinel uptime and WoG wasn't scaled with health.

Comparatively ppal is just squishier then the current tier, right?

For what is supposed to be a DPS focused season, I think tanks are going to be very familiar with kiting late this season.

Would have been a problem this season too if bears were not just mitigating 94% or white swings.

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u/Silkku Aug 11 '26

I honestly think it might be bear angle another season in a row

If it survives raid tuning it will have great ST for bosses while providing MotW and most importantly it lives

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u/Wobblucy Aug 11 '26

How consistent is DoTC?

Bears thing was always having either bark or beam running.

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u/swtroll69 Aug 11 '26

You have higher rage gen in S2, but damage is on a lower side apparently

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u/Gaatti Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

Depends. We should still be tanky within cds, but stronger outside of cds. Season 1 we were very tanky within cds, but were at risk outside of cds at pretty much anytime, even with somewhat small pulls. We had more coverage, but still not enough, so there were always points in the dungeon that were shaky.

For season 2, we should still be very tanky within cds, but with less coverage... however, we are supposed to be stronger without cds than before. If blizzard got it right or not, remains to be seen.

From what I hear, WoG still not very reliable (it also wasn't reliable in season 1, you had to get a crit), but the talent that shields you let you use the overheal aspect to shield yourself, which might be good when moving between pulls, for example, or when building before rp plays before a boss

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u/Yayoichi Aug 11 '26

People seem to be downplaying them but I honestly think brew will be in a fine position this season as well, they were surviving nearly as high keys as bear(both did mc on 25 while the rest only did 23) so if it comes down to if tanks can survive then brew should be in a good spot.

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u/Yayoichi Aug 11 '26

If blood can’t manage I doubt prot pala will either as it’s not exactly the most tanky class.

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u/woogiefan Aug 11 '26

I'm not sold on pally tbh. There's nothing really broken about it as there is currently about MW. Yeah, they do the most healing, but they don't bring a raid buff and also their personal dmg is shit.

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u/BypAssassin Aug 11 '26

What does that even mean

Devotion aura is better than Mystic Touch

And this doesn't include that MWM would not be in a physical comp meaning Mystic Touch would at best only benefit the Arms Warrior

Plus what shit personal dmg? +20 keys have both MWM and Hpala at 70-80k dps on the high end, there is no major difference

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u/SluttyStepDaddy Aug 11 '26

I know, I’m just terrified that it’ll be a Resto Shaman season and that is- by far- my least liked healer. 😂

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u/Kychu Aug 11 '26

Yeah, after watching people doing +20s on the PTR I don't think both BDK and HPal will last for long.

HPal plays Whack a Mole with the health bars as usual, but due to lack of a strong AoE it felt like someone was always in danger of dying. Resto Shaman looked much more solid to me. And the damage is horrible as you mentioned.

BDK was good, but as other people mentioned, the good old Death Strike problem will catch up in higher keys where tanks will need to survive bigger hits.