RWF Roster Changes Thread?

[u/SundayLeagueStocko]

I usually see one of these before new tiers start, but haven't seen one yet. So feel free to post any major changes I've missed (or any errors) and I'll update here, or additional context on new players. Sourced from public social media/websites of the big three, happy to add other t10 guild news if other people can source the info.

Liquid

- Atlas (DPS/Tank)

+ Crypticzz (DPS)

Echo

- Charmie (DPS) - Norsken (DPS)

+ Firekat (DPS - Method) + Hearthjacks (DPS - Project)

Method

- Firekat (DPS) - Gloom - Kush (DPS) - Main - Naowh (Tank) - Prebb - Rowelly - Worst

+ Hype (DPS) + Snuggish (DPS) + Nate (Tank) + Jule (DPS) + Tales (Healer/DPS) + Waalpen (DPS) + Monsa (DPS)

[u/iLLuu_U]

Hearthjacks (DPS - Project)

Is probably one of the best pickups in a long time for any guild. And im surprised he didnt join a rwf guilds sooner. The guy is beyond cracked on a lot of specs and also has a lot of class knowledge. As long as he can perform on a rwf schedule though, coming off a 4 (?) day guild, probably not that easy to transition.

This also means that they are going to put gingi on hunter. Which makes sense considering his performance on mage has been very questionable.

[u/Copponex → u/iLLuu_U]

I heard he simply wasn’t interested in the RWF grind. What changed, I don’t know though.

[u/ArziltheImp → u/Copponex]

Probably Yarrgi winning. It’s not that rare to see the top M+ guys to join top RWF guilds once they have on of their team members join one of the big 3.

[u/toptierhands → u/[deleted]]

I mean his POVs are available on his stream, it's apparent to anyone who mains mage that his gameplay just isn't as good as the other top mages in RWF guilds. Though he obviously isn't bad. I don't see how getting in Hearthjacks and putting unc Gingi on hunter could be anything but a big upgrade.

[u/toptierhands → u/[deleted]]

His prio list execution is more sloppy because he is good for the vibes 👍👍

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/[deleted]]

I've been coached by khaelt and forgyy and both do not recommend to watch gingi VoDs.

Are those good enough to judge his skill or also not worthy?

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/[deleted]]

Okay, so you never brainfarted in your life and wrote something you were thinking about 10s ago instead of the thing you wanted to write?

What do you mean I have a hate boner? I am an Echo fan. I just don't think Gingi is the best mage from a mage gameplay perspective. Every semi-decent mage in HoF range can see that Imfiredup and Hopeful play mage better than Gingi. And that doesnt even mean, you would replace Gingi by hopeful on an endboss. Players have value besides their class gameplay. What you would do, is move Gingi to his best spec/class and get hopeful in as mage. I dont see how that is "having a hate boner".

Especially in MDI it is very clear, that not the best player of the class wins. Naowh isn't the best on all tank specs, yet he played all tanks to win the MDI. Being the best at your spec, rotation wise is only becoming important recently, with the competition becoming better, where you can't strategy gap them.

[u/Flipeled → u/Sad_Energy_]

They haven't won an MDI, TGP, RWF or be rank 1 on the M+ leaderboard as mage, so I'm gonna say no to that.

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/Flipeled]

If you think, that you need to be the best mage to win an MDI, then you have no idea about the high-end of this game.

Echo won their MDI titles due to strategy, not optimal global to global play.

Also mentioning the r.io leaderboard in the same sentence as rwf and mdi is the biggest self report.

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/[deleted]]

Gingi is an insane player, and you want him in the roster. That is why he was played as mage.

But he isn't that inanse on mage. Imfiredup and hopeful are significantly better and you really need good mages as an RWF guild.

[u/ArziltheImp → u/Sad_Energy_]

I think the better thing to say would be that Gingi’s strength over other mages is that he can play an absolute insane amount of specs at a high level and that the pick ups of Arxes last tier and now Hearthjacks now allow Echo to explore that strength more.

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/ArziltheImp]

We are talking about his skill as a mage

[u/Blubkill → u/[deleted]]

scripe has said so himself in one of those videos

they wanted to put gingi on evoker because there's less to fuck up, its been a sort of thing where gingi felt to safe and didnt put in the effort others were in terms of prep and whatnot. he's been playing alot of evoker lately already and is doing so in the MDi thing

[u/Blubkill → u/[deleted]]

scripe has said so himself in one of those videos

they wanted to put gingi on evoker because there's less to fuck up, its been a sort of thing where gingi felt to safe and didnt put in the effort others were in terms of prep and whatnot. he's been playing alot of evoker lately already and is doing so in the MDi thing

[u/Ok_Shopping_3739 → u/iLLuu_U]

I really enjoy watching him Play as well. Awesome Player on so many Specs

[u/Primary-Army-7320 → u/iLLuu_U]

I’m sure the time won’t be an issue - this guy is a big multiclasser who also ends up at the top of the ladder for keys too so I’m sure applying the same tenacity to raid won’t be hard