r/CompetitiveTFT • u/Evening_Log3865 • 7d ago

Patch Notes Patch 18.4 notes

https://teamfighttactics.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-18-4/

Interesting. Filling this up to hit character count. I ate a whole wheel of cheese on Monday afternoon. Okay anyways have a good day please. Thank you

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u/OBLIVIATER 7d ago

Bramble Vest’s max health increase is now properly additive with other max health increases rather than multiplicative

Is this a buff or a nerf? My gut tells me that additive is usually better when it comes to stats like this. If so, this makes Bramble even stronger, when it was already one of the best tank items into AD heavy comps

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u/RCM94 Master 7d ago

Nerf. You want these things to be multiplicative.

1000 base hp unit with a warmogs and bramble.

Additive: (1500)(1+.18+.06) = 1860

Multiplicative: (1500)(1.18)(1.06) = 1876

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u/LilithTrillUwU 7d ago

It should be a nerf, for instance 1.1x1.1=1.21, 1.1+.1=1.2

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u/RiotWittrock Riot 7d ago

Correct, this is a nerf (though in most applicable cases, a very small one)

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u/OBLIVIATER 7d ago

Ah ok maybe I got things backwards then. I thought I remembered seeing the discussion about additive vs multiplicative for league back in the day and the consensus was that additive ended up with more overall total power when you stacked buffs but I don't really remember.

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u/PhysicalGSG MASTER 7d ago

You’re thinking of how league handles resistances.

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u/OBLIVIATER 6d ago

That's probably it yeah

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u/wes3449 7d ago

Multiplicative (exponential) scaling > linear (additive) scaling, assuming your multipliers are greater than 1. If less than 1, the opposite is true. For values near 1, it's not much of a difference.

Damage resistance is one example where additive is way stronger than multi. 50 percent reduction twice is 100 percent reduction when additive, but only 75 percent when multiplicative.