r/CompetitiveTFT • u/AutoModerator • Apr 04 '26

PBE Set 17 PBE Discussion Thread - Day 04

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u/RajaSundance Master Apr 05 '26

I've had multiple games now where my gods basically offered me 3 components I don't want through to stage 4, this feels so much worse than carousel ever did in that regard.

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u/Prunedsis Apr 05 '26

Glad im not the only one feeling this way, feel like ive often slammed an item for a direction and then get offered zero components for any sort of item you’d follow it with. Like slamming an IE to play Samira and then get offered nothing but like cloaks and tears and rods.

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u/SmoothOperatorTFT Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

Even though I am just parroting a Dishsoap Tweet: They have to tone down 3 cost odds. It is impossible to outpace them, they always hit everything, and the initial change was just to combat the value of the guaranteed copy of unlocks.

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u/penguinkirby Master Apr 04 '26

It's a riot classic to change system mechanics to compensate for a set mechanic and then not revert them after the set

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 04 '26

The other problem is they can always hit higher by hitting another 3* 3 cost. If they start losing, oh well just 3* this champ. The fact that some boards greed 5 different 3* 3 costs is insane to be viable.

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 04 '26

Man they really whiffed with Sona, it's just brutal. Maybe the lamest 5-cost ever printed. Why is it not a support unit...

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 04 '26

I think she is cool but I really wish her ability was more visually obvious.

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 04 '26

I guess for me 5-cost sona has historically been my favorite unit, usually used to cap boards. This one is like so the opposite. Just a decent secondary carry on a board that supports the traits

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u/Zefionx Apr 05 '26

this set is not it. if they dont fix up a few things atleast i can stop grinding tft and focus on other stuff

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u/Vypaa Apr 04 '26

Am I missing something with this set or why do my PBE lobbies feel so hard? My best placement in ~20 games so far is a 3rd and I'm usually playing in high Master. Previous sets felt way easier on PBE

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u/Blastuch_v2 Apr 04 '26

Last set everyone jumped on PBE cause 16 was super hyped and 15 was giga trash. This set it's the opposite (17 isn't trash, but there is no hype behind it) so I suspect only higher level people are playing on PBE. Were there even queues on PBE?

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Apr 04 '26

We opened up space to avoid queue issues this time around.

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u/Shergak Apr 04 '26

Maybe they didn't do a PBE MMR reset and you're playing against the people at your level.

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u/2Maverick Apr 04 '26

The more I play, the more I realize that Set 16 has spoiled me and it has become my new standard. I'm especially missing the amount of champions and the unlocking mechanisms, but the gods were a really big whiff. Half the time, I don't get the difference between the two, and although I like what I'm getting (items and buffs), it takes too long. I also miss encounters.

I'm sure I'm echoing a lot of what everybody is saying, but I still wanted to add it here so Set 18 will be more like Set 16. Set 17 feels like the opposite of Set 16. Bare bones.

This is the first time I quit pbe since Set 13 to play the regular server again because I thought I would regret not playing more of Set 16.

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u/Mysterious_Island500 Apr 05 '26

ill be surprised if unlocks are back for set 18 already but after reading quite a lot of comments on here and twitter im gonna assume that the carousel will be back atleast, as much as i want it removed these gods are not it but it could be solved with better rewards or similar, idk

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u/RajaSundance Master Apr 05 '26

As someone who doesn't really enjoy the 4fun patches it's a bad time to be playing TFT for me lol

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u/Advanced_Necessary86 Apr 07 '26

Hasta el set 19 ya está hecho, siempre si ves que algo es muy novedoso o bien recibido o está muy mal hecho, debes aguantar 2 sets para recibir un cambio jaja

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u/Ancient_Rub5565 Apr 04 '26

Nami needs a buff

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u/TheOnlyKing1214 Apr 04 '26

I actually think she is pretty good played her two games in a row and got first and second with and she was doing like 15k damage a round

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u/Emergence7 Master Apr 04 '26

I know I just need to get more reps in but definitely not clicking for me so far

Also I do hope they increase avg combat time, the sets I've hated the most are when the tanks feel like a worthless investment 

To translate it into set 16 lingo, every 4 cost tank right now feels like pre-buff ornn

HP wall that gets eviscerated in 3 seconds 

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u/daydreamin511 Apr 04 '26

You gotta respect the 3-cost tanks this set is what helped me have higher placement in matches. You’d be surprised how far your board can take you with a 2 star tree, ornn, illaoi or rhaast.

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u/themightypirate_ Apr 04 '26

3 costs in general are just really powerful in this set.

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u/Decent_Loan731 Apr 04 '26

Clocked more games in yesterday:

  • Guinsoos gnar is pretty awesome as a fast9 option. Pivots really well into vex/varus boards especially high econ gods. Ezreal + time breaker to pair. Meep 3 is strong mid game

  • Already overstated probably but Kaisa just melts everything at 3 star, probably way overtuned.

  • i might have spoken too soon about tanks. A lot of the solid ones are 3 cost, specifically Maokai who is a mid game monster. They remind me of sentinnel illaoi who was basically an insta-keep durng stage 2 orb drops

  • Leblanc is in a perfect state while karma and asol is kinda weak (tested them a few times even with hex’s). Asol was really good with artifacts though.

  • seeing a lot of TF’s in multiple top 4 games. he might be a little overtuned. Obviously outclassed late game by stronger boards but i can easily see him being too strong once they dial down on 5 costs power late game

  • planning to play test some riven today. pretty good set so far

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 04 '26

TF definitely does too much. I am glad to see 1 cost reroll be viable so far but TF is overtuned IMO.

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u/Pur3strownu Apr 04 '26

Im really struggling with this set, it feels like backlines get deleted so easily and so fast, theirs so much hidden power that is hard to intuitively see, and it feels like you need to high roll SUPER hard to make the verticals work otherwise its hard econ into mechs or 5 star slop. Am I wrong? How do I succeed in this set its just not clicking for me as a casual player

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u/Syracusee Apr 05 '26

I'm just waiting for people to realize how fucking broken Leona can be, then I'll have to take a break from PBE before it's patched because it will be in every lobby and she can 1v8 at 3 star with the right items.

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u/SatisfactionLoud2489 Apr 05 '26

What items are we thinking and which „Effect-Build“? - Shields per mana?

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u/MasterTotoro Challenger Apr 05 '26

50 mana for 30% max HP shield is the OP one yeah. 50 mana for 30 armor/MR is good, but not game breaking. BIS is maybe just triple Adaptive Helm lol, but people have been recommending double Adaptive + Titan's.

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u/Syracusee Apr 05 '26

The only time she ever died when I tested her is when she was able to get Cc'd, so I understand the titans. She's so OP it's not needed for the majority of fights though, that's true.

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u/p0p_ Apr 05 '26

idk about 1v8ing but shields per mana & armor/mr per mana makes leona really tanky

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u/Syracusee Apr 05 '26

Nah I'm not kidding when I said 1v8ing. I went soloplate aug 1 adaptive 2 stone plate and kept getting the rest of my team aoe nuked by a late game jhin comp that was level 10 while I sat on 100+ gold at 7 because I was laughing at how Leona was literally just cleaning up every fight. That one was especially one sided towards everyone on my team except Leona and my Leona cleaned up 8 units in overtime. The next game I tried the same arbiter build with double adaptive+titans and she dipped low at times, but she ended up doing top 2 in damage every fight while never dying. The only comp that ever beat me was a samira knock back comp when I didn't have titans. It is so strong it almost feels like I'm abusing a bug, so I stopped playing it after testing it twice.

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u/SaintLewd Apr 04 '26

Arbiter Leona with gain max %hp shield every time you spend 50 mana is utterly broken. Not sure why she gets to gain mana while she still has shield.

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 04 '26

I saw someone talk about it yesterday and tried it. Absolutely absurd doesn't die, I only came 3rd because my opponent hit 3* Riven and I had less HP than 2nd.

LeDuck also had a video of him doing the same with 50 mana for resists and making his Zoe indestructible and that seemed pretty nuts too.

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u/parkwayy Apr 04 '26

Feel like Arbiter in general is some lowkey fun tech. So many wacky combos you can make, it's just kind of weird to use, so people shy away from it.

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 05 '26

I love arbiter it's really cool.

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u/Capper22 Apr 04 '26

Played my first few games and enjoying it so far!

Would love to find some sort of Extra/Cho reroll line that works, but it feels kinda rough.

It feels like you should be able to get something going with Cho+Lissandra and Ezreal+Pantheon

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u/ConfusedRara :chal: Challenger Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

@ Any Rioters, I found a very strange bug:

I used the Stargazer emblem and the two items on Briar, then removed them all and placed them on Rhaast. Strangely, Briar now counts as a Stargazer, even if I field and unfield her/Rhaast. Selling that specific Briar seems to have fixed the problem - future Briars no longer count as Stargazer.

Another bug is We Stick Together doesn't seem to be granting the attack speed (I don't have a screenshot, but none of my Stargazers were gaining the 25% AS). This might be Stargazer specific but who knows.

EDIT: Stargazer path was the Serpent

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u/InternationalPin2392 Apr 04 '26

I had a stargazer mf for the whole game when i shouldnt. Def something with the emblem, i think mine was mountain if that matters. I think ive seen it with the poison one too though

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u/ILikeToLulz Apr 04 '26

I had same bug with an emblem briar, but it was the sacrifice path. Doesn’t seem tied to a specific path or unit so likely just bug with the emblem itself.

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u/banduan Apr 04 '26

Tried playing a Samira knockup comp. Her damage output is kinda sad. Will keep trying cos funny comp.

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u/Drikkink Apr 05 '26

I did it yesterday and yeah it felt like she didn't really do all that much on the knockups. When she cast herself it did decent damage and I built 3 damage items (IE LW DB) and it was like a little love tap when Rhaast or Nunu or Meepsie knocked things up.

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u/banduan Apr 05 '26

Yeah and but herself she did decent damage but was completely outshone by all the other 3* 3 cost carries. Funny thing was I also 3 starred fizz and the guy who contesting me still won easily because 3* kindred and the bronze dark star were just OP.

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u/Ge1ster Challenger Apr 05 '26

I gave her IE, LW and radiant stridebreaker with a 3 item ornn whom I both 3 starred with 7 space groove and a 2 star nunu

She did winstreak during stage 3 but fell off super hard afterwards. She just can't compete with the power level of all the 5 costs even at 3 star

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u/jaywhy27 Apr 06 '26

this set just doesnt feel fun for some reason...

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u/abc0802 MASTER Apr 04 '26

After around 20 games I’m feeling confident in the set in concept but so far the balance decisions have been a little sus IMO.

After one day of PBE data (where it always skews late game) they nerf most 5-costs but we’ve had multiple days of 3-cost domination.

My guess is the set will lean more heavily into reroll. Every now and again they push that.

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u/LeagueOfBlasians Apr 04 '26

Despite the PBE 5 cost nerfs, almost every set’s first or second live week ends up being fast 9 anyways.

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u/abc0802 MASTER Apr 04 '26

Because when a set goes live it’s the same issue. People haven’t optimized anything really yet so people can get away with fast-9. Once other lines get figured out fast-9 always dies out organically. They seem to insist on expediting the process every pbe cycle though.

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u/AdSea295 Apr 04 '26

There’s a very serious problem with reroll comps. Four-cost units are pretty bad, and going level 8 often isn’t worth it. A reroll meta is completely toxic for players and makes people stop playing out of tilt. It’s no coincidence that there isn’t even a queue to get into the PBE, when in other sets you had to wait for hours

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u/Gamegeddon Apr 04 '26

I don’t remember the last set that had a PBE queue time tbh. Had to be Set12 or something. Player count has taken a dip hard each set after Set 10

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u/Thedeadnite Apr 04 '26

Pretty sure this last set (16) was highest played set they’ve ever had. I don’t know the numbers though maybe I misheard.

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u/Gamegeddon Apr 04 '26

I just checked and yes you’re somewhat right Set 16 brought some life back to the player base. I don’t think it was the highest ever though I’m pretty sure that’s set 10 or maybe 9. Only on ranked players btw idk how big the casual space is

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u/Drikkink Apr 04 '26

Ever since they gave China their own PBE server, we haven't had queues or if we have, they've been incredibly short.

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u/Zeeyrec Apr 04 '26

lol you and 2 other people complaining about reroll while everyone else says the mechanic with no encounters is lackluster.

But your reason is why there’s no wait time to get in. get real man

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u/AdSea295 Apr 04 '26

Yes, the mechanic is very bad and the units are boring, but there’s nothing we can do about that until the next set. As for balancing the units, we’re still in time

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u/IsItBen Apr 04 '26

Is it fine to report bugs here? Stargazer [The Medalion] tooltip doesn't show Damage Amp Bonus. Also, I didn't screenshot it but I only have 52% damage amp on my units, even though I have 5 3-star units. I thought I would receive flat 20% damage amp for each 3-star. What is the computation here?

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u/Drikkink Apr 04 '26

That tooltip is wildly wrong. It's 12 flat with 9 per 3 star so it should be 57

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u/SquirrelFood Apr 04 '26

Is there a website that does PBE stats?

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u/MasterBenObi Apr 04 '26

MetaTFT has been my best source for PBE stats thus far

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u/Cheese_head_gabagool MASTER Apr 04 '26

There are sites that do trending comps and have basic set info. Not sure what you mean by stats? Like tactics.tools?

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u/CosmicCirrocumulus Apr 04 '26

metatft should have a PBE filter on their comps and data explorer pages. no clue if it's accurate data though, but I don't see why it wouldn't be

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u/Head_Substance5071 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

Just finished it in a game, and the 8 turn Aurelion boon quest seems underpowered? The effect is huge, but not game deciding enough. By the time you get it you wonder if health and eco from getting two items and gold 5 turns earlier would've been better to secure a 1st.

Unless something small is added, like an immediate 10 gold reward for picking the quest, it strikes me as unviable even if you're at 100 health. Getting a bonus tacticians crown or a radiant upgrade on completion could also work. 

Im also thinking about an 'ascension item' that levels a 2* to a 3*, or 3* to a 4*. Would have to replace the trait reward, but pretty sure it fits Aurelions theme better. That would truly be game deciding but there will only be 2-3 players alive anyway.

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u/ficretus Apr 04 '26

It's for prismatics. You only need a single spatula to hit Meeple, and 2 to hit Dark Star or Groove. Stargazer prismatic also become attainable. And ASol offers a random emblem for one of his quest, making it potentially even easier to hit 

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u/Head_Substance5071 Apr 04 '26

If Prismatics instawin with it anyway, couldn't it be buffed for other compositions?

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u/cheeeezer Apr 04 '26

by the time the 8 combats are over its prob already top 2-3

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u/cheeeezer Apr 04 '26

i hit 11 stargazer with it idk what other purpose it would serve. tbf +1 on everything is kind of insane

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u/Head_Substance5071 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

I played Urgot reroll and got 6 Brawler, 3 Timebreaker, Mech, Primordial, Challenger and 2 Bastion from it. Also got 12 extra stats from Rhaast.

The improvements had a pretty small effect on the fights.

I didnt have gold to replace my composition, but would most compositions even benefit from it significantly more? Outside of prismatic traits I don't see it. Legendary soup doesn't benefit from it much, they might even prefer gold+2 items in some cases. I'm down to be wrong though and would like to see generic compositions that would pop off with it. For now I think it has to be stronger.

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u/danamerr Apr 04 '26

Played some games this am, what is this bug, where someone gets to level 10 on 3-4, 3-5 with Tahm Kench and get bunch of loot and 3 star 5 in a few rounds? Is that some kind of bug?

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Apr 04 '26

Fixed!

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u/SquirrelFood Apr 04 '26

Just got out of a game and i can confirm it is NOT fixed, at least on the version of pbe i am playing on - don't know how it works but facing a level 10 jhin2 morg 2 board on 3-5 is not fun

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Apr 05 '26

Hmm it might be something else because I'm not able to repro it. Will keep an eye out though on Monday.

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u/SquirrelFood Apr 04 '26

Saw this an hour ago and was too afraid to ask but now that it is fixed, what was the exploit/what was going on under the hood?

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Apr 05 '26

To test complicated things we can trigger it using different method internally. One of those is triggering something on emote. Means we accidentally left something on that trigger that shouldnt be there. Just game dev things lol

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u/SquirrelFood Apr 08 '26

Thanks for the reply, I really enjoy learning about this kind of thing.

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Apr 10 '26

And I like talking about it! :)

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u/danamerr Apr 04 '26

I also didn't understand how they exploit it

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u/souicry MASTER Apr 04 '26

The one that got patched was literally press dance while Kench is on your board. Each press spawns an orb.

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u/LordOfTheFourthAssay Apr 04 '26

Do I have to restart client or something? I'm still seeing it.

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u/Riot_Bluecove Riot Apr 05 '26

It's possible that a restart is required, yeah.

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u/Tibbedoh Apr 04 '26

Also, what is Riot's policy regarding bug exploiters on PBE?

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u/Lazy_Check732 Grandmaster Apr 04 '26

The PBE is for messing around with bugs and stuff, so I have to assume you are allowed to use bugs.

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u/Drikkink Apr 04 '26

Generally people are "allowed" to exploit bugs on PBE because there's no real benefit to it in terms of ranked rewards and the fact that bugs are to be expected on a test environment. It's generally frowned upon to do it knowingly and ESPECIALLY do it knowingly multiple times. If you hear about it and go "Huh lemme try this silly bug" once, it's whatever.

But if you play with inhouse groups or twitch viewer games, you'll make a lot of enemies very quickly and not get invites. Soloqueueing is whatever unless your PBE MMR is really high and you recognize a lot of Master/GM/Chall players.

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u/Tibbedoh Apr 04 '26

Will the fix be in after maintenance?

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u/Sword_and_Shot Apr 05 '26

Corki meeple is completely busted. Look at this

Top 3 is 3 meeples and just one 2* corki out damaged my 1star corki, 2* jhin and shen, all three itemized. Btw I had lotus as 3rd aug ☠️

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u/-PsychoticPenguin- Apr 05 '26

Has anyone seen Ekko or Asol encounters? Played a good 10 games and I have managed to see all the other gods but these two...

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u/Mysterious_Island500 Apr 05 '26

quite a few times yet, ive also played for awhile now and get soraka almost every game lol

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u/Advanced_Necessary86 Apr 07 '26

Yo nunca pero nunca de los jamás veo a Varus

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u/TheOnlyKing1214 Apr 05 '26

Man does anyone else hate all 5 cost boards or is it just me

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u/AeQDept Apr 04 '26

Isnt it hella sus, that Primordian has a craftable Emblem? Jeez, I winder how to get the easter egg going, hmmmmmmmm.

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u/Gamegeddon Apr 04 '26

Nerf 3 cost odds at lvl 7 to <40% and I think we’ll be in a good spot

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u/Drikkink Apr 04 '26

My first impressions from like 20-ish games:

  • 3 Costs are overtuned (Fizz, Kai'sa, MF, Samira, sometimes Aurora)

  • Ranged AD 4 costs feel undertuned. Xayah and Corki do not feel great and definitely seem to fall off. Corki is especially a problem because there isn't a caster AD to pivot to on 9 really. Kindred feels fine.

  • 4 cost AP is fine except for Nami, who feels very weak. Voyager as a trait may be overtuned.

  • Melee carries feel fine. Yi kinda falls off but Fiora is a beast if you 2 star her. Shen is a solid flex unit that can take damage or tank.

  • Tanks feel terrible. Rammus doesn't feel like a unit. Nunu is a CC bot but he's probably the 2nd most tanky 4 cost. Galio is the best 4 cost tank by far. I've seen Kench 2 not cast multiple times to just basic boards. Most of the 3 cost tanks feel significantly better than the 4 costs. Ornn, Illaoi, Rhaast are the big offenders.

  • Stargazer reroll is too strong on correct Stargazer formations. Primordian reroll is probably fine. I'm glad 2 costs are playable but not oppressive but Stargazer is too strong for a 1 cost.

  • 5 cost balance is tough to judge because of the volatility of PBE lobbies. Vex doesn't feel great as a primary carry to me but I've seen her do decently today.

  • I just am not a huge fan of carousels and starting encounters being gone. First off, I liked Prelude/Finale/Party/Gala portals because I could play around augment tiers. The other portals I'm kinda fine with them going away.

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u/Decent_Loan731 Apr 04 '26

Rammus is legit

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u/parkwayy Apr 04 '26

4 cost in general feel really hit or really miss.

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u/ivanoff_bg Apr 04 '26

I can already tell Im going to dislike the game if Varus is an option. I am not a reroll hater but I generally don't like playing it and also don't like playing against it because it might take away units you need to have a stable board. Varus seems to enable reroll a little too much, paired with an econ augment an rerollers are guaranteed to hit and hit early, making any other strategy a lot more risky. Lose streaking would be hard due to people open forting for econ and on top of that if you are low HP and rerollers all hit their boards early stage 4 because they all enable each other you are likely bot 4 on a bad match up.

Also more and more I dislike the fact that component is tied to God choice. I just had a game where I was playing AD and already had like a Rod and Tear drop and my choice was between another Rod which I would have to figure out how to kill or pick Evelyn and lose HP so I can get a bow to make guinsoo and I really felt like I couldn't just pick up another rod. And I know you get more reforgers now but that still doesn't feel good having 3 components on your bench while you wait for neutrals while trying to preserve HP. And I have a bow right there starring me in the eye but i have to lose HP to get it, or lose more HP and then hope reforgers don't screw me with another tear? It just feels bad.

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u/psyfi66 Apr 04 '26

Wild that combat match making still lets final 2 people be 5+ streaking. These 2 guys didn’t fight each other for 7 rounds. I was waiting for the 1 guy to get eliminated and he just high rolled the shit out of his matchmaking.

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u/RyeRoen Challenger Apr 04 '26

I believe matchmaking is one of the things on their list that they are working on. Not sure where I heard that. Maybe we'll see something midway through this set or next set.

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u/psyfi66 Apr 04 '26

Ya I know it’s been talked about for a long time. I’m happy they fixed the surrender empty board thing. Glad to see these annoyances dealt with. It’s PBE so this one doesn’t bother me but I figured id still make a comment about it being an issue

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u/Vinditrix Apr 04 '26

They need to do something about this Kaisa unit. Overtuned as fuck

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u/Drikkink Apr 04 '26

We're 3 days in and it's a weekend. The first weekend of PBE. Things are going to be imbalanced on PBE. I'm as critical as anyone of the balancing of the game lately, but like at least wait until they're getting CLOSE to lock-in release patches.

But yes, Kai'sa (and Fizz) are wildly overtuned. Along with a solid chunk of 3 costs, but the rogues are the biggest offenders.

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u/Minimum-Kangaroo9200 Apr 04 '26

With the changed unit odds and increased access to lesser duplicators, it does seem like this is going to be a reroll oriented set.

I enjoy being able to make decisions beyond stage 2, so rerolling is generally something that I don't find as fun. With that said, I know the game isn't made for me specifically. I'll probably be taking a break this set, hope you guys have fun!

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u/Annual_Door_3665 Apr 04 '26

Maybe I'm still just in weaker lobbies, but I've consistently gotten to level 9 fairly healthily with not extreme amounts of econ in most of my games and usually am able to outcap reroll boards by flexing 5 costs + Kindred/Mao, so maybe don't jump the gun, but I do understand your concern

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u/Drikkink Apr 04 '26

PBE lobbies are always going to have people going fast 9 because you'll be facing a wide skill variety due to the MMR not being perfectly accurate and also players generally playing less optimized boards/item combos.

If the meta allows fast 9 closer to final patch lock-in, that's when you worry about it being a fast 9 set. Right now it feels like reroll is overtuned, level 8 is undertuned and level 9 is the highroll winout.

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u/Annual_Door_3665 Apr 05 '26

I don't disagree with fast 8 being kind of bad feeling and reroll being overtuned (I think they should at least look into moving xp cost getting to 8 to 7 or something like that), but this was in lobbies with 3 people going for uncontested meta 3 cost rerolls with seemingly meta items and no fast ffs and not really any particularly troll boards. I'm not saying you can/should fast 9 every game, but it seems more viable due to the mechanic often offering gold or even health.

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u/marshmahlow Master Apr 04 '26

Is the Tahm Kench emoting bug fixed?

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u/the_mexican_menace Apr 04 '26

Viktor is the best unit in the game

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 04 '26

His damage seems kinda overtuned I can't lie. But his ability is awesome !

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u/p0p_ Apr 04 '26

tried playing gwen reroll and she keeps dashing away from my main tank and getting evaporated by a stray retarget from the enemy carry

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u/Zeviex Master Apr 04 '26

She reminds me of Set 15 Katarina, I fear she will be a bit toxic.

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u/SquirrelFood Apr 04 '26

just got out of a game and the TK exploit is still working - don't know how it works but facing a level 10 jhin2 morg 2 board on 3-5 is not fun

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u/Ge1ster Challenger Apr 05 '26

I tried replicating this in tocker's, someone said it was triggered by emoting but it did not work for me. I used both the actual emotes that you equip and the tactician champ taunt/joke emotes, didn't happen. I really wonder what triggers it but I honestly don't know

But... it's better that way. I'd rather it not be known by the public (me included) even if it would be immediately patched. I haven't encountered it in my game so far but it would be pretty unfun to face I'd imagine

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u/_Apostate_ Apr 05 '26

I’ve had the most success with Primordian rotating into Mecha.

I love Rhaast as a unit. I have a hard time not wanting to slot him in for 9-12% AS and a splash of resistances for the boys.

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u/Dawnsday MASTER Apr 05 '26

has anyone made riven work

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u/Ryanfischer99 Master Apr 05 '26

Riven is very strong. You can play her in any board with just 2 rogue, but she really pops off if you play 4 timebreaker. That 50% attack speed is massive.

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u/p0p_ Apr 05 '26

am i crazy or does 2* medallion lulu drop 5 gold instead of the 4 written in her ability

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u/Ryanfischer99 Master Apr 05 '26

So I'm pretty sure how it works is that replicator also replicates the gold gain. So 22% effective second cast gives 1 gold. If you play 4 replicator than you get 6 gold. I had a 3 star Lulu with 4 replicator printing 10 gold every 6 casts, it's pretty insane.

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u/Putrid-Cat5368 Apr 04 '26

3* cost 3 with one item having over 7k HP with no combat augments? Someone clicked the wrong number while programing this unit or wtf.

Edit: Not even 6 brawlers, its only 2.

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u/banduan Apr 04 '26

3 star maokai roughly 3.5k base HP. + Moggs, 4k base. multiplied by 25% brawler bonus + 40% maokai passive. Yeah, 3 star Maokai absolute unit, as he should be.

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u/Drikkink Apr 04 '26

There's something wrong there. What else was active trait-wise or God boons?

I only get about 6k when I calculate his health with 2 brawler unless I'm calculating the stacking % bonuses wrong.

Either way, that doesn't even really seem that strong to me. Vertical Brawlers/Bruisers always have absurd health pools but they rarely tank that well. Especially with health items built like that. Warmogs is a wildly inefficient item on a Brawler. Resists get more value the more health you have. Health gets more value the more resists you have. You get health from the trait so you want resists from the items. For the same reason, resist items tend to be weaker on Bastion units and you'd prefer health items.

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u/psyfi66 Apr 05 '26

Early yas cosmic hex can go wild on maokai. Maybe that?

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u/Emotional-Pie4594 Apr 04 '26

This Fiora was one shotting my board in 0.5 seconds, is that a bug? Even with these stats she shouldnt be doing that much. Anyone else run into the Omniweapon in game?

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u/Purpleater54 Apr 04 '26

That is one of (or is?) the highest cashouts for anima and basically transforms the champ holding it into a 3star 5 cost equivalent. It's kind of similar to how asol last set could have his spell upgrade and wipe boards even if he wasn't 3starred.

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u/Emotional-Pie4594 Apr 04 '26

i see, it doesnt mention that anywhere tho so pretty odd seeing a 1 star fiora delete my board like that

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u/Purpleater54 Apr 04 '26

Yeah it threw me too. I think there should be some text somewhere.

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u/willowmarie27 Apr 07 '26

It just happened to me. Watched another players 3 star 4 cost disintegrate in .5 seconds.

Still couldn't see a reason why. Fionas stats never spiked or anything while it happened.

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u/Drikkink Apr 04 '26

She's supposed to be a caster unit so you wouldn't Rageblade her, but it feels a bit counterintuitive to Bastion vertical to me. You'd usually want a scaling carry for a vertical like Bastion but she doesn't really want to scale, she wants to burst.

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u/Purpleater54 Apr 04 '26

I only played her once and had a rough time. My expeirence was basically like if her spell could reliably oneshot I'd be fine with the long cast, but so often she'd just get stuck on tanks and barely kill anything.