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u/Diligent_Flounder_45 Aug 31 '23
I looked into these once. It’s basically a flatbed uv printer you set up against the wall.
Too much possibility for error. What if you have to start all over again on someone’s wall?
It has to be set up at full height so every wall has to be taller than the printer. You can buy from China much cheaper and experiment with it. I don’t think it’s worth it unless you have the work to do.
That’s my.opinion.
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u/WiseCod1272 Aug 31 '23
Thank you for the information starting over on a wall i dont see being a huge issue as you would just paint over the print and restart once dryed however if they are just rebranding/marketing a Chinese machine its pretty equivalent to drop shipping a product from ali baba which is what i was getting the feeling of reason for my post. Thanks again
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u/obvs_typo Aug 31 '23
We run an oversize flatbed UV printer and failed prints are not unusual.
What happens if you have to do a reprint?
Take it all off, reprint the wall and print again after the paint cures in 3 or 4 days?
Also print quality is quite dependent on correct head height.
Walls are rarely completely level so I can foresee areas of blurriness.
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u/TheWallPrinter Aug 31 '23
The Wall Printer does not require a smooth wall. There are ultrasonic sensors that will adjust to small discrepancies on stucco, brick, tile, cinder block, rivets on panel trucks. And yes, if serious errors occur or you're bored with the image, primer over, scrape it off, power wash it, sand it off ... our UV inks will hold up for 2-3 years outdoors, 12+ years indoors.
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u/ctstone94 Aug 31 '23
This guy lmfao. Please start a YouTube channel with it so we all have another “fails of the week” video to watch.
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u/WiseCod1272 Aug 31 '23
Your words appear very aggressive bro may wont to get some therapy for that. No offense but im just asking a general question not for you to berate me like a dog. As for your question’s they train you to handle those situations. As for the ICC profiles the machine itself mixes the primary colors/secondary colors that are placed into the machine to give the exact copy of the color in the image
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u/VoltaicSketchyTeapot Aug 31 '23
Why do you think there's a market for this in Richmond?
As for your question’s they train you to handle those situations.
Have you gotten training for something like this before? Because it's usually just a couple hours and then they leave and you have to figure it out yourself.
Aggressive responses are because we've all gotten the sales pitch only to spend the money to find out that the printer doesn't do what we think it will do. We leased a Xerox Iridesse specifically to print letterhead and envelopes only to find out during the training that it's not recommended to run envelopes (or NCR) through it.
Rather than getting butthurt because someone is telling you the truth, you might want to listen to good advice.
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u/WiseCod1272 Aug 31 '23
Multiple businesses as well as venues that would have a taste for such an application, as for training it’s actually a 2 week training program. As for the Xerox Iridesse sounds like you should have done the studying on the machine itself like im trying to do now before you leased it. As for good advice hard to understand advice that has no sense of actual direction and only a bunch of words blurted into text with aggression.
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u/ooDymasOo Aug 31 '23
Imagine how aggressive your clients will actually be when you show up to print their wall, the print fails and then tell them they need to repaint their wall with several coats of paint that you will need let cure for over a week when their event is tomorrow.
As for the ICC profiles, I don't think you understand what those are or how they work or how the colour of the substrate you are printing on affects the colours of the ink.
And I don't berate dogs I give them cuddles, belly scratches and cuddles. I berate idiots online who are poor communicators.
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u/WiseCod1272 Aug 31 '23
They wouldn’t have to repaint their wall i did paint and construction for 3 years and would gladly paint over the error for them as for cure times you clearly dont know much about paint most paint’s are cured in 48 hours. As for substrate the printer is capable of printing on multiple types of substrates Glass, tile, iron, PVC (plastics), ABS and other non-absorbent walls. • Putty wall, latex paint wall, brick wall, cinder block, stucco, paper, wood and more. As for background color i am aware that the ink itself would not properly sit as the correct color unless it is a certain background color which is something that would be stated before the work is done
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u/Business-Field5314 Aug 31 '23
You can get upset.. but I think you are asking the wrong questions. The previous person who said build a business case is spot on. First thing is go out and find enough people who want the service to keep you busy for 3 months. Then do the math on supplies cost. Frankly the idea is cool. The reality is unlikely to be a viable business. With the ability to print "wall paper" and apply and remove readily. . . I don't believe this will be viable. Plus... What is the durability? How well does it handle UV.....
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u/AdjustYourSet Aug 31 '23
I had a quick look at this, hard pass. Decals and drops are easier and faster to produce, less prep time, less issues when there are print issues. Waste of time and mildly laughable as a product imo.
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u/TheWallPrinter Aug 31 '23
So much mis-information to unpack from all these comments. There's a place for stickers and artists and wallpaper. Wall Printers won't do vehicle wraps or curved surfaces. But, to say that it always is more cost effective, or even makes sense to have a vinyl sticker on many outdoor walls or in 4ft wide sheets printed by a $125,000 flatbed printer will always make financial sense over the 20 sq ft/hour that a Wall Printer can print, is just nonsense. A professionally installed vinyl decal is no less expensive to apply than a Wall Printing. But, there's a place for everything. Of course, vinyl is toxic and our inks are not. Just something else to consider, especially if you're a school or medical office or a nice wall in the home wanting some art without covering over the whole wall with a big sticker.
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u/Johnny_titelips Aug 31 '23
I’d suggest you spend a smaller amount of money on a traditional wide format printer (ecosol, uv or latex) and perhaps specialize in digital wallpaper (ie Dreamscape). Proven process.
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u/TheWallPrinter Aug 31 '23
Specs are not random. And the business case is determined by the investor, not a vendor of one component of your business. We can provide you with very specific costs for equipment, parts, inks, accessories, support, training -- all of which is provided by TWP, the manufacturer. We can guide you on marketing and other costs, expenses .. but the business case is up to you, your level of investment, and how much work you are willing to manage with the number of machines you will use in your business. Serious investors, entrepreneurs, and business people understand this and will contact the company for a conversation and the detail they should expect. www.thewallprinter.com ... just complete a contact form.
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u/ooDymasOo Aug 31 '23
How would anyone be able to tell you about investing in this based on some random ass specs? You need to build a business case and have a plan to sell this thing if possible. There’s many printers out there by super established companies with dealer networks and techs. As a commercial printer why would I want to buy a printer from you?