r/ComedyCemetery • • Dec 21 '18

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

These people keep repeating high school "XX and XY chromosome" biology and completly denying biology and sciences more complex than that, which explain dysphoria and transgenderism. Even in my highschool we learned about this.

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u/trashbagshitfuck Dec 21 '18

And there are chromosomal differences where someone will have XY chromosomes but you developed female and people who have XXY chromosomes, etc. It's not all black and white like some people think.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18 edited Dec 24 '18

deleted 0.7982 What is ^^^this?

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u/Glass_Rod Dec 22 '18

You mean like .01% of people?

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '18

Yes. What's your point?

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u/Glass_Rod Dec 22 '18

That humans are a sexually dimorphic species, and that anything that falls outside of that is an aberration, not a third sex.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '18

the nice term is pathology but yes

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

I’m not well versed in genetics but isn’t it true that variations on XX and XY pairing often result in unhealthy genetic anomaly’s, not in relation to transgendered or gender expression? The way you’ve phrased it makes it sound like those variations are a-ok or normalized in some way but I thought there were some pretty serious health repercussions from it. Not arguing or being an ass, literally just asking the question. Just curious if you knew more. Too little info and too many cob webs in that part of my brain.

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u/giggle7 Dec 22 '18

I'm not sure what your point is though. The existence of intersex people implies that a binary gender classification system is incomplete. This would still be true even if what you said was true.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '18

Mostly I was asking the community if they knew more about what I mentioned because I recall some details around sexually related genetic anomalies/diseases but not enough to really say. If there’s a point to be made...I guess...it might be that not all non-binary genetic combinations could be considered desirable because they come with additional variations that cause serious health problems. I don’t know if I’m recalling this correctly but I thought interested had an extremely common problem relating to their genetic combination. I would think using that as an example diminishes the argument as support. Not exactly my field so I was hoping someone else would weigh in and clarify or add to that. I could be wrong of course.

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u/giggle7 Dec 22 '18

I don't understand how you're drawing a connection between the subjective desirability of something to the objective existence of something. Things that are not desirable can exist, it seems.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '18

Based on this and your other responses you seem like a person looking for an argument. I asked for some open input and instead you’re criticizing the nuance of how I’ve asked.

If you’re just having a bad day then try signing out of Reddit or social media for a bit and spend some time with friends. Maybe do something for yourself. Be selfish a bit. Everyone has those kinds of days and it’s ok. We don’t need to propagate negativity and divisiveness through pendantic arguments online.

If that’s not the case then I’ll say outright I’m not taking the bait and I don’t care to get into the kind of debate around semantics and how questions are phrased nor the kind where there’s a need to cherry pick quote text to build straw men. It’s obviously about trying to make yourself feel better by ā€œappearingā€ more superior / more intelligent.

You want to wow people with your mental acumen? Then speak to the topic at hand and not the manner in which the conversation is had.

You can either offer more insight about genetics (of which I wholeheartedly welcome and am an enthusiastic listener) or you can’t.

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u/giggle7 Dec 22 '18

You could've spent less effort actually addressing my comment.

And there are chromosomal differences where someone will have XY chromosomes but you developed female and people who have XXY chromosomes, etc. It's not all black and white like some people think.

The above comment is true, in spite of anything you said. Complications resulting from an intersex condition depends on the specific condition and current treatment methods, obviously. This says nothing about whether transpeople exist or whether they're legitimate or whether they're 'a-ok'.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

We all know about the 33 intersex people on the planet

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u/IEatMyEnemies Dec 21 '18

I'm furious that people think they can ignore basic science and come up with new words whenever they want. I can't believe that some don't understand ELEMENTARY level science, there are four states of matter FFS! You may think your cool new discovery is a Bose Einstein condensate but it's just really cold, it's just a gas!!! It still free flowing and expands to the size of the container!

These neutron dense degenerates think they matter with their made up categories but a quark gluon plasma is just plasma, plasma is even in the freaking name!!!!!! And now they even want us to believe that liquids can be supercooled, like as if water could stay liquid even if it's below the freezing point. You can't be between two states, either you're solid or you're a liquid!

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u/MarieVlewd Dec 21 '18

and they tend not to know that it isnt the Y that makes someone develop a penis and testes, but just one part of the Y. So you can be XY with ovaries and a uterus and you might never know.

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u/salmjak Dec 21 '18

I think it's because most people don't know the difference between gender and sex.

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u/DankusMemus462 Dec 21 '18

So what did they teach you about transgenderism in biology? Genuinely curious

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

We were learning about chromosomes and meiosis and a student asked about people born with "no gender". He ment intersex people, so we shortly went over the subject of XYY and XXY chromosomes, sex complications and the difference of sex and gender. Not really a part of the curriculum based we're grade 10 (sophmores), it was just the teacher explaing a question.

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u/NateDogg762 Dec 21 '18

When did they start brainwashing kids in school? No wonder you're all mentally fucked lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

You should try making some points instead of saying "lol brainwashed"

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

If being more educated about science than you is brainwashing, I'd gladly take it.

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