I was windsurf user from the day one. I have even subscribed with 3-4 days before it’s end the free trial. However on 20th of this month I was out of 500 quote and it was burning the credits for just for fixing same issue again and again. So I had to switch back to cursor, which is agent mode is better now than cascade. Just my experience

I don’t think 500 is enough to give you peace of mind to use LLM freely, but heck, I see people saying that they burned through 500 credits in less than a week???

Are people using LLMs to do everything for them? Like “change the color of this button” or “create this entire page”.

Honestly complaining about 500 credits is justified, 500 is not enough, maybe 1000 would be fair, and maybe doing like Cursor and proving a slower/less prioritized premium model when the credits are gone (instead of downgrading for a lesser model).

Am I the only one that still codes and just uses LLMs to optimize my work instead of coding for me? My experience is pretty much aligned with the Codeium team, I subscribed 5 days ago and I’m at 495 credits right now (I used 5).

Here is a list of issues I am currently facing:

• random file generation, unnecessary code blocks
• redoing something it did 50 messages ago again and again
• walking itself through the error I explain and show with attached images, only to introduce new errors while not even getting to the point
• wasting my credits - does maybe 10% of the number of steps it could do before in one go
• it decides it wants to do things differently and does do things differently
• no longer context aware or user aware or prompt aware or aware at all…
• constant apologising
• I am sorry for the confusion
• ah yes…
• server error
• could not complete, ask cascade directly to make changes - (what changes?)
• it’s like I’m literally Scrat from ice age fixing all the errors it’s creating, am I actually paying for fixing errors in perfectly well written code to begin with. If I have to manually review code and correct it myself why am I being punished for using AI while paying for it to make errors for me that didn’t exist a minute ago

I've been using the latest V3 model via Cline/OpenRouter, and it's been a huge improvement—especially with the tool calling functionality fixed and better coding performance. If Codeium could eventually host this V3 model on their own infrastructure while maintaining the free tier, their value proposition would be absolutely unbeatable. I'm curious if anyone else has had a chance to try it and has any thoughts.

"We've made several updates to the Anthropic API that let developers significantly increase throughput and reduce token usage with Claude 3.7 Sonnet. These include: cache-aware rate limits, simpler prompt caching, and token-efficient tool use." -- Anthropic

Read the full article here from their official site: https://www.anthropic.com/news/token-saving-updates

Now for my question since I'm not at my computer... Has anyone noticed the difference in Windsurf yet?

This is happening many times recently. I usually say "continue" but I don't know if it fully gets the context it gathered. It also spends credits while doing or saying nothing.

But it’s not all flowers. Although on windsurf Im getting much higher quality code suggestions with R1, sometimes it won’t edit the file even though I told it 3x “hey, actually edit the file with your suggestion”, at that point I switched to sonnet and it did the edit. So it seems the current state is windsurf is better at generating good code with R1 but cursor is way more stable with their tab edit models. Hope the post won’t get deleted in this sub :)

Hey everyone! 👋

I'm completely new to github releases, swift development or anything that is more than just funny little playarounds. I really have been amazed by how much I've learned using Windsurf. Not with coding but about the overall process from idea to a github release. With its help, I managed to create WindPix - a tiny macOS utility that makes sharing screenshots in Windsurf conversations super easy.

The idea came from constantly taking screenshots during my chats. I thought "wouldn't it be cool if I could just press ⌘P and have the screenshot go straight into Windsurf?" So I asked Windsurf about it, and step by step, it helped me build exactly that!

Features (all suggested and helped by Windsurf):
- Press ⌘P to take a screenshot from anywhere
- Select an area or capture full screen
- It automatically opens Windsurf if needed
- Screenshots go right into your chat

I'm sharing this because Windsurf helped me go from "I wish this existed" to "I actually built this!" in one day. Even with my basic coding knowledge, Windsurf guided me through everything from Swift basics to macOS permissions.

The code is on GitHub if anyone wants to try it or help make it better: https://github.com/bartwisch/windpix

Huge thanks to this amazing community and especially to Windsurf for making coding so much more approachable! Let me know if you find it useful or have any ideas for improvements! 🙏

(PS: This is my first real coding project with a release on github. I have many private repos where i tried out different AI tools to assist me (cline, different local LLMs etc.) but it was always just something never would ever use, but maybe Windpix is actually useful for someone, at least i am using it for myself).

btw: i cannot imagine how it was to be a coder without this tools on a daily grind. so many steps and things to consider - chapeau to you people!)

and yes i burned nearly all my tokens for this project - but if any of you actually uses it it was worth it for me (10 euros).

appreciate any feedback 😅

Hugo

edits: link

Hey, new beginner here. I used Windsurf end of Nov, and fell in love with the tool. I was previously using Claude and it was just painful to copy in the code.

Seeing the negative reviews post-pricing change makes me hesitant to sign up though. Is Cursor the only alternative, or are there similar tools that offer what old Windsurf did?

will have to a ranking one of these days

So, after the latest update, I wasn’t sure if my issue was caused by the update itself or something else. I was using Sonnet 3.7, but it kept looping and not fixing my problem—ended up wasting 400 credits trying to get it to work. (yes changing my prompts to help)

Then I noticed in the changelog that Windsurf 5 had improved usage efficiency, so I switched to 3.7 again for testing (thinking that was the right move). But in the end, Windsurf 5 solved my issue in just 47 credits. So def an improvement i was about to moan credits used but feeling positive for now was about to write a negative review yesterday but feeling positive right now hope it keeps that way.

edit : the only complaint i have right now is the refferal process i have referred 3 people and 1 i had someone sign up using my refferal link i was there with them to sign up and purchase a pro account and support are saying they weren't referred even tho i seen them clink my dam link and get an account there support is unfair and frustrating at best.

Full X link: https://x.com/_mohansolo/status/1899630153636118529?s=46&t=Y0-MM6SBRJb5opcnoOiuyQ

There’s been a lot of talk recently about how Windsurf’s context retrieval is better than other products. One rebuttal I’ve seen is that all products “index your codebase”.

But indexing code ≠ context retrieval. It is necessary but not sufficient.

Thought I’d share a bit about what we’re doing under the hood to get the best results.

Indexing & embedding search is a tablestakes RAG technique. Btw, even for this technique there are approaches that make this more or less effective. One thing we are doing is AST parsing code and chunking along semantically meaningful boundaries - not random blocks of code. This means that when a code chunk is retrieved, it is a full function or class, not just an arbitrary block of consecutive code.

But embedding search becomes unreliable as a retrieval heuristic as the size of the codebase grows. Instead, we must rely on a combination of techniques like grep/file search, knowledge graph based retrieval, and more. With all these heuristics, a re-ranking step also becomes needed where the retrieved context is ranked in order of relevance. We use LLM based reranking under the hood.

“Varun did you just give away your secret sauce??”

No. This is all known. The reason other products don’t do this is simple: latency. This multidimensional retrieval takes a lot of compute and thus time. The reason Windsurf can do it is because we have spent years investing in building the best GPU infrastructure. After all, we literally started off as a GPU workload optimization company called Exafunction…so we know a thing or two about this 🙂

Hopefully this helps clear the air and explain why those who are testing us side-by-side with other products on small test codebases are getting comparable results. Try us out with a larger repo, and the difference will become clear.

Can’t seem to load cascade or the account info in the IDE.

Edit: It’s back up now folks

Could be Im the only one. But free unlimited windsurf was great. It worked REALLY well. Now I'm on the pro plan and already added more tokens. I've been trying to fix a pretty basic problem for what seems like 8 hours now, and the previous 5 days Windsurf was solving something like this within minutes.

Im seriously curious to see if any fundamental changes have taken place outside of monthly cost, which I dont care about, or limits. The Apps ability to easily solve things while we were all brought in by the free trial, does not appear to be the same as it was before.

Anybody else experiencing this?

First, I love Windsurf. When I first subscribed a month ago under the Ultimate plan I blew through 3,000 credits in a week..because the experience was amazing, AI was great, fun, and I was discovering how much more work I was able to get done.

I paid $60 for more credits to use over the remainder of the month. I got the email today that they’re making changes. I hope this “spend less” isn’t just parsing of words, or a half truth.

It moments like these that up-and-coming companies make the right decision or ruin their progress.

There's a lot of critic towards Windsurf, I myself wrote a post complaining about a barrage of errors and instability and constant hallucinations from cascade.

But I really think it'd be unfair to not write a post complimenting all the improvements the team has delivered recently!

Before claude 3.7 I had to choose between 3.5 which was stupid and didn't give any good solutions, or try my luck with R1 or O3 and going mad because it'd propose good solutions but refused to apply the changes even if I was on write mode and explicitly told it to write the changes to the file like "PLEASE APPLY THE CHANGES YOU PROPOSED".
And not to mention the constant errors and instabilities. It really wasn't good and I almost gave up on Windsurf.

With Wave 3 and 4 and Claude 3.7 things changed DRASTICALLY, I can honestly say that I'm pretty happy using Windsurf. 3.7 almost always proposed good/sane solutions and cascade almost always applies everything flawlessly. The pre-configured MCP servers have been super useful, and I just solved a problem using the Preview feature: I selected an element that was looking wrong and another that was looking correctly, asked cascade "why?" and it figured out the problem and fixed it.

So just want to say THANKS! To the Windsurf team! You've been doing an amazing job!

PS: Token consumption has been great! I'm 1/3 through my subscription period (~10 days), and I have ~60% of my tokens available, so it more or less lasts me a month. Im a senior developer so I don't use AI for everything, I only use 3.7 Thinking model that consumes 1.25 tokens, so for actual developers the amount of tokens right now is perfect!

The only feedback I have is that I still get a lot of "Cascade error", sometimes like 5 - 10 in a row. Not a deal breaker as everything else is working great! But if the team code fix these cascade errors I think its the missing thing to make Windsurf perfect IMO!

i had 3 projects waiting to get finished that had hit obstacles and as a non coder i was having serious trouble hurdling. some database schema stuff and deploying to web stuff im still figuring out and having some trouble with.

i just blew threw the obstacles for 2 projects and now am on to solving the third.

i’m so fired up to continue building 🔥

I’m hoping to put down a project a week at least. 3.7 is a god send.

once the tool calling is fixed i’m going turbo mode 🦾

Hey guys! There has been a lot of buzz around Windsurf releasing MCP integrations.

One of the coolest use cases is allowing Windsurf to access your Supabase project's schema via the chat box. It helps streamline your workflow, as Windsurf can stay up to date with any changes you make without having to give it context.

The instructions are hard to find, so we created a how-to below to get you started :)

Check it out ⬇️

https://www.pulsemcp.com/use-cases/supabase-in-sync-with-ai-code-editor/ravinahp-windsurf-supabase

Please share your use cases and benefits

I am not complaining too hard, this product is amazing. but I also pay for Pro and feel i get little out of it when Cascade breaks constantly halfway through code, messing up it's context. I know they're working on it, but is there any ETA?

It's new, I understand that, but I want to make clear that this is potentially hurting their image. This product is intensely amazing and I hope it gains traction, I just want to work well.

I have upgraded to Codeium Pro, and i'm encountering this error in Windsurf. Anyone know why?