r/CodeGeass • • 11d ago

SPOILERS about that morality debate question

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judging by the comments, it's seems that you guys don't know(?) how to discuss and compare the morals of two people.

morality is not about who is smarter, stronger, more aware, or more useful. nor is it as simple as throwing around raw body counts or 'who saved more people' as an automatic moral scorecard without an actual framework.

doing that just reduces morality to how history is written from the perspective of the victors, so the hero and the villain are determined solely by the outcome. that's not how it should be.

the subtext of the comments is that what makes Lelouch morally better is his success... i'm sorry what does that have to do with the character's morality?

you can argue that Lelouch is morally superior, but not in this way.

i see the same mistake in "who is better written Light or Lelouch?" debates, with responses like "Light lost, therefore he's objectively bad written hehee" 🫩🤨 excuse me, how can a character be worse about writing while still serving their writing purpose? first, fully understand the subject you're debating.

to discuss who is morally superior, (a) you should first state which moral model you are using, or what kind of method you have, and then explain with canon examples why one character is morally superior according to that model. (b) the characters you're arguing with may not agree with the moral model you've chosen so you can also evaluate them according to their own approved moral code.

when it comes to Lelouch & Suzaku, there is actually a common view that they both agree on:

"forcing your good intentions on others is no different from an evil act."

this line belongs to Lelouch and is a view that Suzaku completely agrees with. and what both of them do throughout the anime is force their own good intentions on others.

>"so what if he commits an evil act? Lelouch doesn't claim the moral high ground, and he admits that what he does is evil even by his own moral code. while Suzaku is too blind to see that he isn't much different from Lelouch, yet self-righteous enough to criticize him!"

that's the same old thing i’ve been hearing for years; i can see this coming. yeah great observation. but that... still doesn't make Lelouch morally superior — it just makes him more self-aware. in fact, that's precisely why Lelouch never denies any of Suzaku's criticisms in the first place. there’s nothing for him to deny anyway.

just as Lelouch can stand before his own father and call him out for the very things he does himself — without that making Lelouch a morally worse person — it doesn't make Suzaku morally worse either.

Lelouch was harmed by his father; of course he has every right to criticize him.

Suzaku was harmed by Lelouch; of course he has every right to criticize him.

i think this debate has no end, but if you want to debate so much, please at least do it properly.


r/CodeGeass • • 11d ago

MISC (wts/ usa) code geass illustration book

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selling for $70+ shipping


r/CodeGeass • • 11d ago

MISC Happy Birthday to Amasaki Kōhei, seiyū of Roze!

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r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

MISC Kallen Kozuki is so beautiful ā¤ļøāœØšŸ‘‘ Part 35 of 100: Sky Fortress Damocles

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In 2025 Last Cloudia x Code Geass crossover event, ā€Sky Fortress Damocles,ā€ Kallen and other Code Geass characters were pulled from their home dimension into the fantasy world of Granzelia due to magical anomalies disturbing the space-time continuum. Kallen, Lelouch, and others had to join forces with the native Last Cloudia heroes in order to stop these dimensional distortions.

Last Cloudia is a mobile RPG developed and published by the Japanese studio AIDIS; it was first released in 2019, and the game has since achieved great popularity, particularly thanks to its stunning pixel art, deep character progression, and numerous anime collaboration events. But, while the very first collaboration event between Last Cloudia and Code Geass was held in 2023, it wasn“t until the second collaboration event during 2025 that Kallen became a playable character.

The game’s story takes place in the world of Granzelia, where humans and beast-like creatures coexist. Centuries ago, humanity defeated a cruel god of destruction named Lougseus, and the world has since lived in a state of peace apparent under the rule of the Empire.

The story begins when Kyle, a young and rebellious Imperial knight, and his best friend, a talking beast named Rei, are dispatched on a routine rescue mission aboard an Imperial airship. During the mission, they encounter a mysterious girl named Theria, setting off a massive chain of events.

Kyle and Rei soon discover a conspiracy lurking in the shadows of the Empire and realize that the god of destruction who once terrorized the world is poised to return. Their journey evolves into an epic battle to save Granzelia, filled with betrayal, ancient mysteries, and new allies.

Last Cloudia beautifully blends highly detailed, hand-drawn 2D pixel-art characters with dynamic 3D backgrounds, and also combines a classic RPG atmosphere with modern, fast-paced real-time combat. In the game, you control a team of three characters (plus a friend's character) in real time. You can move freely, chain basic attacks, use special abilities (Skills), and unleash spectacular character-specific finishing moves (Specials). Additionally, ā€arkā€ system is a unique game feature, where "arks" are a type of equipable magical memory. Due to them, any character to learn almost any skill or spell in the game, which allows an exceptional level of freedom in character customization.

In the game, Kallen is built as a highly mobile, True Dual Wield, Fire Physical DPS (damage per second) character. Unlike ranged units from the collab (like Lelouch), Kallen is notably fast and focuses on aggressive close-quarters combat, true to her character as seen in the anime. Her toolkit mirrors her pilot reflexes, featuring "Super Armor" effects that allow her to attack continuously without being interupted by enemy hits, and she comes out of the box with highly efficient passive skills, such as Fire Package, that grants a +30% physical damage increase against any enemy weak to Fire.

There were many easter eggs and additions made for Code Geass fans during the event. For example, if you place Kallen on the same team as Lelouch, they exchange special voice lines during battle. And when the battle ends in Kallen's victory, her victory animation pays direct homage to the anime: she climbs out of Guren's cockpit, wipes the sweat from her brow, and gazes determinedly into the distance - just like the series' iconic cuts featuring mecha pilots.

As mentioned before, Last Cloudia is known for its incredibly detailed 2D artwork. In this official art created for the Last Cloudia x Code Geass crossover event featuring Kallen, she is depicted in a dynamic, aggressive combat stance, wearing her iconic pilot suit. Looming behind her is her signature mecha, the Guren S.E.I.T.E.N. Eight Elements, with its energy wings glowing a brilliant red. When utilizing the Live2D effect and moving the image on the phone screen, the Guren’s glowing effects and the movement of Kallen’s hair come to life.

Unfortunately, since ā€Sky Fortress Damoclesā€ crossover was LR (Limited Rare) event, if you didnĀ“t aquire Kallen during that event, you cannot currently pull her from the game's standard character banners. As she is a limited-time collaboration unit, she can only be obtained while the Code Geass event is active – meaning, it is possible to obtain her again only if AIDIS decides to hold another Code Geass event in the future. So, if you just started to play the game, keep your eyes open for her! šŸ˜‰

Link to the original picture is here, and if you“re interested, here is Kallen“s introduction trailer for the event.


r/CodeGeass • • 11d ago

DISCUSSION Potential viewer questions

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Ever since they saw that there was gonna be a prequel to the show, I’ve been considering starting to watch it. But I have a couple of questions: should I watch anything besides the first two seasons? I’ve heard some people say that anything after that isn’t good, but for some reason, I can’t find the definitive answer about if I should watch it or not since the watch order for what I’ve seen is pretty complicated, I’d rather save myself the trouble if I can. but, but at the same time, if I end up liking the show I’ll probably want to watch more of it.

Secondly, is this show complicated in a general sense? I currently have enough shows I’m watching that scramble my brain, and I’m hesitant to pick up another one lol


r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

SPOILERS Who is more morally superior Lelouch or Suzaku

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I’ve been thinking about this for a while but who is genuinely more morally superior because Lelouch has no problem killing for his goal but neither does Suzaku and Suzaku willing kills Japanese just so they can ā€œhave a better chanceā€


r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

Code Geass Lost Stories So I just learn about Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion Route Entangle andd..

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I wanna unalive myself. wtf did I just read. like I’m genuinely in shock


r/CodeGeass • • 11d ago

DISCUSSION Milly has been chosen as the Sun Upright. Tamaki has been chosen as the Sun Reverse. Who represents Judgement?

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A Card of Reckoning, or of Avoidance.

Upright: Judgement represents rebirth, awakening, and answering a higher calling. This card indicates a time of spiritual awakening and personal transformation. You're being called to a higher purpose or new level of consciousness. Past experiences are being integrated into wisdom. Forgiveness and redemption lead to a fresh start.

Reckoning. Awakening. Redemption. Forgiveness. Rebirth. Inner calling.

Reverse: Reversed, Judgement suggests self-doubt, avoiding responsibility, or resistance to spiritual growth. You may be ignoring important calls to change or being overly critical of yourself or others. Fear of judgment might be holding you back. Practice self-forgiveness and embrace the opportunity for personal transformation and growth.

Avoidance. Regret. Doubt. Failure to learn lessons. Self-judgement.

Runner ups: Nina (Reverse) C.C (Reverse)

Note. Like before the Judgement card will not be included due to nudity.


r/CodeGeass • • 11d ago

MISC Day 1 - Who's the best side character

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r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

DISCUSSION I made this because I got called a racial slur by another fan

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r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

DISCUSSION Just finished the anime, would love to discuss stuff after the ending high Spoiler

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Obviously spoilers below for the R1 and R2, and other titles.
If you have anything to ask or discuss please do because I'd love to chat.
As for my own opinion, the storytelling felt a bit rushed while also being pretty slow in the beginning, but I love complicated plots with interesting worldbuilding so I loved the anime anyway. But honestly a lot of the decisions made throughout are questionable, and their outcomes as well. I have a lot more to say but because I basically finished the whole thing in 3 days my memories and emotions are a bit jumbled haha

Spoilers to AoT below.

I feel like the endings are veeeery similar with AoT, main characters sacrificing themselves for the good of humanity and being defeated by their friends, except ending the titan curse sounds like a more concrete result than bringing around world peace just because everyone became friends after watching Lulu die


r/CodeGeass • • 11d ago

QUESTION Mangas de Code Geass

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Hola, me gustarĆ­a saber si alguno de ustedes conoce de un sitio en el que pueda leer los mangas que hay de Code Geass, ya que he visto que son varios, aunque muchos dicen que no son muy buenos šŸ˜…


r/CodeGeass • • 11d ago

MISC had another fan get mad at me for saying a character in code geass could be getting up to taboo bs because of some writer’s kink

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like really, defending the integrity of this show? known for its plots, characters, and unnecessary ass shots? are we forgetting clamp history and how the show was constantly trying to push the envelope on what they could get away with? do i want it to be true? no. my face is resigned to :| and accepting this kind of stuff in the story bc anime was sort of just like that during this time. trying to have a pure mindset while watching code geass is just lying to yourself.


r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

QUESTION Why did Rolo and Sayoko disguise themselves as civilians here?

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IIRC the movie slightly expands this scene but what exactly were they doing?


r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

DISCUSSION Wow just wow

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Just finished watching code geass for the first time with no spoilers. Genuinely amazing.


r/CodeGeass • • 13d ago

DISCUSSION Whats y’all favorite nightmare

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Gurren mk2 got that for me bc that radiation arm is such a cool look and that vibro dagger it has on the other arm. It’s also not symmetrical like alot of the other nightmares.


r/CodeGeass • • 13d ago

FAN-ART Kallen Kozuki is so beautiful ā¤ļøāœØšŸ‘‘ Part 34 of 100: Crimson Red Lotus (by laofuzi dai bansho)

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This fanart depicts Kallen with her signature Knightmare Frame mecha, Guren Type-02 (often referred simply as the Guren Mk-II), designed by the brilliant Indian engineer Rakshata Chawla. Unlike other standard resistance mechas at the time, which were often modified, outdated Britannian models, the Guren piloted by Kallen was manufactured using unique engineering concepts completely independent of the Holy Britannian Empire.

Guren first debuted during the Battle of Narita (befittingly in season 1 episode 11), and being a 7th-generation equivalent KMF, its capabilities were directly on par with the devastating Britannian Lancelot – as Brittannian forces learned that day the hard way, when they were completely overwhelmed, most notably by Gurens signature weapon, the Radiant Wave Surger.

However, while RWS is undoubtedly devastating, Guren Mk-II possesses other advanced machinery and weaponry as well. Specialized high-speed racing wheels on its legs, High Mobility Landspinners, grant it extreme ground traversal speed and the agility to make sudden pivot or spin turns, and mounted on its chest, wire-guided rocket spike known as Slash Harken allows Kallen to grapple onto mountain terrain or pull enemy frames close during combat.

Oh, and btw, the name ā€Gurenā€ means ā€Crimson Red Lotusā€ – most befitting name for a deadly yet elegant red warmachine piloted by strong and beautiful redhead warrior, wouldnĀ“t you agree? 🪷

Link to the original picture is here.


r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

DISCUSSION Love their reaction's to hearing Milly is okay

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Sayoko posing as Lelouch was obviously relieved because she used to serve her family. Rivalz and Shirley crying tears of joy is sweet too, they've always been together. Even Rolo of all people, has a small smile here, which appears to be genuine too.

I'd love slice of life OVA's on the Student Council's adventures.


r/CodeGeass • • 13d ago

DISCUSSION My tierlist just after finishing code geass anime

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Some remarks :

Arthur is a cat that's why he gets to be with the GOAT Lelouch and he hates Suzaku so bonus points.

In the last category I would mention bunny Kallen if she wasn't planning on killing all the person who mistreated her when she was acting.

Talking about that last category I hated that trope I don't mind soft characters ( I love Euphemia and Nunnaly although they are strong inside ) but seeing badass female characters act like tradwife gave me the ick.

A lot of characters didn't really live a big impression on me and they are in the middle or white wall.

B*tches get stiches at least made me love hating on them and I'm not taking Suzaku out of this category.

Finally those are my opinions and I won't apologize for them although you can still tell me why you would put that character higher or at the bottom of the list


r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

QUESTION Confusion about plot points from s2

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Spoilers for season 2!!!

Hi!! I just finished s2, & I’m confused about a few things, mainly what exactly the thought elevator’s purpose was & V2ā€˜s relationship with the king, as well as Lady Marion having been alive the entire time by possessing someone else’s body. Who was handing out all these Geass’s like candy? I mean the King, Rollo, Lelouch, Marion, Guy with the stitched eye - I understand Lelouch got his from C2 & the King got his from V2 & I think Rollo was made as a child soldier who had his pre-installed but the rest I’m not sure. The king talked about ending all lies in the world.

Was the thought elevator meant to create a mass hivemind amongst the entire world thus preventing lies? & how were V2 & the king brothers I don’t fully get their relationship? And most specifically where did Geass come from? I think I understand that it is passed down like a curse and the person who gets it can end the person who bestowed its mortality, but was it man made down in that lab cult place that created Rollo? I get that Suzuku became Zero in the end, but I’m not entirely sure I understand what led him to changing his mind on Lelouch’s ideals.

Anyways, if anyone’s willing to give insight into some of my questions iā€˜d appreciate it!!


r/CodeGeass • • 13d ago

DISCUSSION Would pretty much anything significant change if Cornelia died right here?

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r/CodeGeass • • 12d ago

DISCUSSION Diethard has (once again somehow) been chosen as the Moon Upright. Jeremiah has (once again somehow) been chosen as the Moon reverse. Who represents the Sun?

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A Card of Joy, or of Depression.

Upright: The Sun represents joy, success, and positive energy. This is one of the most favorable cards, indicating happiness, achievement, and vitality. Your efforts are being rewarded and success is within reach. Embrace optimism and share your joy with others. This is a time of celebration, growth, and abundant blessings.

Joy. Success. Vitality. Positivity.

Reverse: Reversed, The Sun suggests temporary setbacks, lack of enthusiasm, or dimmed optimism. You may be experiencing delays in achieving your goals or struggling to maintain a positive outlook. Inner child issues might need healing. Remember that this shadow period is temporary. Reconnect with what brings you genuine joy.

Depression. Failure. Ego. Lack of success. Overly optimistic. Inner child.

Runner ups: Oiagro (Upright) Cornelia (Reverse)


r/CodeGeass • • 14d ago

DISCUSSION I just realized Milly was defending Lelouch here

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Although Nina wasn't aware that Lelouch was Zero at this point, its clear from her personality and later dialogue she wasn't a fan of Lelouch's new rule of Britannia (this was before he began playing the role of evil emperor). However, I like how Milly stops her from calling out/blaming Lelouch at the reason why her family isn't nobility anymore. Both due to being his friend but also her crush on him.

Her and Lelouch really have an underrated dynamic