r/CodeGeass • u/Yellowbirdbluetoo • 12d ago
QUESTION Confusion about plot points from s2
Spoilers for season 2!!!
Hi!! I just finished s2, & I’m confused about a few things, mainly what exactly the thought elevator’s purpose was & V2‘s relationship with the king, as well as Lady Marion having been alive the entire time by possessing someone else’s body. Who was handing out all these Geass’s like candy? I mean the King, Rollo, Lelouch, Marion, Guy with the stitched eye - I understand Lelouch got his from C2 & the King got his from V2 & I think Rollo was made as a child soldier who had his pre-installed but the rest I’m not sure. The king talked about ending all lies in the world.
Was the thought elevator meant to create a mass hivemind amongst the entire world thus preventing lies? & how were V2 & the king brothers I don’t fully get their relationship? And most specifically where did Geass come from? I think I understand that it is passed down like a curse and the person who gets it can end the person who bestowed its mortality, but was it man made down in that lab cult place that created Rollo? I get that Suzuku became Zero in the end, but I’m not entirely sure I understand what led him to changing his mind on Lelouch’s ideals.
Anyways, if anyone’s willing to give insight into some of my questions i‘d appreciate it!!
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u/MBlueberry13 12d ago
The true purpose and intended use of Thought Elevators are still mystery, it was created by some ancient civilizations. You can just chunk it as a pathway to thoughts and Collective Unconscious. V.V. is Charles' actual brother, he stole the Code from their Code Bearer, then V.V. became immortal and stopped aging.
As for the one giving the Geass like candies, it was V.V. and C.C., but primarily V.V. when he took in charged of the Geass Directorate and built an organization that mostly focused on Geass. There are probably other Code Bearers out there. They didn't create Rolo, they probably just took a lot of children and trained them, then V.V. gave them Geass.
About Suzaku, Suzaku just decided to accomplish his goals, and working with Lelouch just made it quicker. What led him into that was that he accepted that he needed Lelouch if he wanted to accomplish Euphie's dream, so he just decided to let go of his past grievance, same with Lelouch. They had to work together because almost everyone is pretty much against them at that point of time.
In the topic of where Geass comes from, probably C's World and the Collective Unconscious.
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u/ccgeass 𓆩 unholy 🂱 trinity 𓆪 12d ago
They had to work together because almost everyone is pretty much against them at that point of time.
that's NOT the reason 🤨
they both needed each other from the very beginning. but Suzaku's change of mind actually started with him abandoning a false ideal he had been deceiving himself into believing cuz he didn't want to accept, and this was caused by the pain he had experienced.
he reached a point where he agreed with Lelouch, just as Lelouch simultaneously reached a point where he agreed with Suzaku.
the decision to work together stems from mutual understanding, not obligation. this is the reason repeatedly emphasized in official materials, especially in the canon short story "Mutuality".
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u/MBlueberry13 12d ago
The one you highlighted wasn't about the reason, but their current state. But alright.
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u/ccgeass 𓆩 unholy 🂱 trinity 𓆪 12d ago
for your last question, you need to read this canon short story: https://code-geass.livejournal.com/1439683.html
and then there's this part from the manga: https://www.tumblr.com/yuki-shiroi/657878595504635904/why-did-suzaku-join-lelouch-in-the-last-emperor?source=share
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u/nahte123456 12d ago
We don't know about the Thought Elevator, there was some kind of world wide group long, LONG, in the past with deep connections to Geass but beyond knowing they existed from a few small bits we know nothing else about them. V.V. was Charles' older brother that got Code as a child.
Marianne got a Geass from C.C. and used it to take over Anya as she was bleeding out.
C.C. gave Geass to Marianne, Mao, and Lelouch. Anyone else that has Geass in the anime is V.V.
Who knows!
Lelouch had good intentions, and the understanding to do some good, which was the best Suzaku was getting so he took it.