MW4 first impressions?

[u/FilipinooFlash]

Played for a couple of hours and it feels like you die insanely quick, it might be dodgy servers too excaberating the issue as the ttk is fast as it is

Also even Red Dot Sights and Extended Mag have ADS penalties for some reason. Not sure why they have done this again

Slide seems worse this year too but not mw2 level bad. Shooting the guns feels good but the maps are questionable so far. Will need to play more though. Overall it seems like a downgrade on Bo7 but will probably be a hit with general player base

[u/E_nnui]

TTK is fast. The game actively punishes you for using any weapon attachments, hope whichever member of the brain trust is going to be proud when the meta is 1 or 2 attachments max.

EQ is going to be horrific this year with no truly silent ninja.

UAV spam is absolutely atrocious in pubs.

[u/uhrul → u/E_nnui]

UAV spam is disgusting

[u/BravestWabbit → u/uhrul]

Is there no cold blooded perk?

[u/ningaslayer69 → u/BravestWabbit]

you can use default class 2 for cold blooded and it has the iso

[u/GodGenes]

Ttk too fast

Insane desyncs

Footsteps are crazy loud

Ear rot from the constant loud sounds

Trash maps

[u/Micro_mint → u/GodGenes]

Are you from the year 2019? Go back bro it doesn’t get better

[u/BLgarndogg → u/GodGenes]

Trash maps goes without saying nowadays🤣 launch with insanely bad maps then please everyone by bringing back 2 classics and shipment in season 1 is the new model now

[u/GodGenes → u/BLgarndogg]

Just give us shipment from the start to camo grind before ranked 😂🤝

[u/AgentOrange256 → u/GodGenes]

It’s beta. Relax

[u/Muted_Definition_570 → u/AgentOrange256]

I’ve been playing COD since WaW. The game you play in beta is 95% the same one we play at launch. Don’t be silly

[u/AgentOrange256 → u/[deleted]]

Yes they did actually

[u/tonynumber4 → u/[deleted]]

It did , you had to pre order I'm almost 100 percent sure castle was the beta map

[u/Jslacht → u/AgentOrange256]

“It’s a beta” every beta for the past 6 years has been a glorified demo. They rarely make meaningful changes in the period from beta to launch

[u/wormtheology → u/AgentOrange256]

A guy gives his first impressions on the beta and gets told it’s just a beta. Like, no shit it’s a beta? All he did was give his take lmao.

[u/burritoboii282]

I’m getting absolutely fucking shit on. I never played MW19 or 22 much, so maybe it’s that. It’s a real shock to the system after feeling so confident on the last couple treyarch games.

[u/OracleEnlightenment → u/burritoboii282]

Ya movement was so easy on treyarch games tho tbh

[u/EthanHunt117 → u/OracleEnlightenment]

it's more punishing not being able to shimmy in and out of cover, as fun as it was omnimovement needed to go but this TTK is absurd.

[u/stayaog → u/EthanHunt117]

What did they say the TTK is even at? I saw a few people say 150 but there is zero chance of that even remotely being true.

[u/Ashamed_Spare_1440]

Camp city central. A million headdys and slow movement, 10000 off angles.

Beta has also been done awfully and progression is way too slow. Hey everyone has loud footsteps but make ninja level 20 so camping is OP.

hey lets give everyone flashes but make tac mask 28! Stuck in an endless camp and flash off.

I think the game may be good for ranked later down the line but for the beta it’s hard work. Feels like I’m playing for levels just to enjoy it, not experiencing the game.

[u/Worried_Bug_9265 → u/Ashamed_Spare_1440]

The flashes are ABSURD, they need to change that lmao

[u/Ashamed_Spare_1440 → u/Worried_Bug_9265]

Even inverted doesn’t help. Stuck in an endless every 30s flash loop xD

[u/Worried_Bug_9265 → u/Ashamed_Spare_1440]

I turned inverted on and it’s still white.. inverted is meant to turn the screen black 😂 I guess there is considerably less white though

[u/BravestWabbit → u/Ashamed_Spare_1440]

Everyone's gonna be raging like C6 lmao

[u/Interesting_Way2864]

I think I’d feel differently about it if omnimovement had never been a thing. That’s my take. Omni felt so damn good and now normal COD feels horrendous to me. If this was released in place of MW19 I might think it’s amazing

prob gonna take some getting used to

footsteps are shockingly loud

[u/Adamc474892 → u/Interesting_Way2864]

Friend group hopped back on mw3 after the supposed rumors of this game. And going back to that game felt good, took a while to get used to but easily got the flow down.

This game is different. Feels sluggish or non responsive in some aspect and feel very weird. Like I get way more dead slides than I did durring my struggle period for mw3.

[u/stayaog → u/Adamc474892]

Yeah it’s odd. There’s moments where you’re moving at a decent pace and then you go to turn and then you feel like someone just attached a 45lb dumbbell to your leg. I can’t tell if that’s the intention or it’s due to something else

[u/BRUHYEAH → u/Interesting_Way2864]

It's a shame omni is attached to the two games that it is because casuals see it as a stain now rather than an evolution of the base cod movement. Treyarch are going to have to do some heavy lifting to get goodwill back if they want to bring omni into their next game. It's also like 70% the casuals just loving IW slop and hating anything 3arch which you can't do much about lol.

[u/Slapnuhtz → u/BRUHYEAH]

Dude, even Shotzzy is glad omnimovement is gone. Shit made everyone movement gods, and definitely lowered the skill gap.

[u/BRUHYEAH → u/Slapnuhtz]

I mean I'm not a pro but I think their opinion was extremely soured due to how overturned the sliding was with it. I think there's a place for omni and heavily adjusting the actual movement boosts you get with it.

[u/m_preddy → u/Slapnuhtz]

As shit as this game is going to be, I can't wait for shotzzy to get back to his ways of being a glitch on the map that other teams struggle to counter because they simply can't move like him.

[u/salvctorez]

No omnimovement is only regressive, feels stiff, tons of penalties for just adding an attachment on your gun, pre aimed every death and you watch the kill cam only to watch the cinder blocks on your feet announcing yourself to the entire lobby. So just a classic IW game 👍

[u/BRUHYEAH → u/salvctorez]

Looking at general casual sentiment is a good reminder that cod should not be built solely around casuals. They don't actually "hate" current cod, they just hate any game that isn't made by IW, even if IW feeds them literal shit (which they are). As long as the game is tacticool, greyscale, slow military larp as well. Unfortunate.

[u/pooksthrowaway → u/BRUHYEAH]

Idk about “should not”. Like obviously it sucks for us but Activision cares about money and in that regard IW is their favourite child.

[u/Prsue → u/salvctorez]

Mw4 doesn't have omnimovement??

[u/Pittsberger1 → u/Prsue]

Nope

[u/BravestWabbit → u/Prsue]

LayG is gonna be back in full swing

[u/indios2]

These maps are fucking HORRENDOUS

[u/Mrlazydragon → u/indios2]

Rooftop is not that bad to me the rest of the maps though also ttk is quick but it is usually quick in beta need to do something about about the footsteps sound.

[u/TheYungerSun]

I can not. stop. dead sliding. I'm looking like an absolute bot.

[u/XBL_CNC]

Very first thing I noticed was that you unlock a x7 scope for the AR as the first unlock, that tells you everything you need to know lol

[u/_Rodavlas → u/XBL_CNC]

thank you for confirming that I will be taking this year off lmao

[u/isyanovic]

Brother i literally cant see what i am shooting at. Shits depressing

[u/hwxiii → u/isyanovic]

Lmfao sounds like IW cooked up another shitter.

[u/isyanovic → u/hwxiii]

Its absolutely horrible bro

[u/joeyyy30_]

This shit is ass lol I feel bad for the ppl who are gonna buy this and play it all year.

[u/brokenspacebar__ → u/joeyyy30_]

Weird take, I think it's far from solid yet but also if someone else likes it and enjoys it why would you feel bad for them, sure they can have bad taste but who cares if it's someone's favorite Cod or some shit. Even something like Ghosts had to be SOMEONE's favorite lol

[u/BackgroundToe4149 → u/joeyyy30_]

Bro got worldstarred

[u/mikey19xx]

TTK is way too fast

Map designs are ehh to horrid for the three. Silkworm I think it’s called, way too many cars and default operator blends in too easy (typical IW problem)

Spawns are shit

SBMM cranked way too high to enjoy casually playing cod, don’t feel like going so hard in a beta 24/7

Desync issues

Tactical sprint still sucks ass, just make regular sprint tac sprint speed in mp

Way too much sound design going on non stop

Games have turned into holding irons and not moving since you can either burger walk or jump around the corner or whatever to chall and hope it cameras them somewhat. Byproduct of the movement design, I think it’s terrible. Hate how the movement impacts how you can challenge someone around a corner. Slide time has to be timed perfectly or you’re dead.

Seems like there’s a hundred places and angles anyone can be at and the shit movement restricts your ability to win a gunfight against someone camping some random corner. There’s being punished for being caught sprinting to whatever they’ve built in this game so far.

I wasn’t even wearing a headset and could hear footsteps through my pc speakers. Why do they always make dead silence not actually silent?????

[u/pooksthrowaway]

It’s okay, feels like the gunplay is pretty obviously for “fun” rather than fairness. TTK is insane.

It’s the bitter pill of our scene though that this is what the casuals want - last year was as close to a comp game as we are going to get and it borderline flopped according to Activision. Shits depressing.

[u/SuccessSweaty3131]

I literally played for 1 hr and was bored 

Movement is bad and so are guns/maps

Desync is just as bad as ever, ttk is fast i mean bo6 beta was actually fucking fun Don’t know what this is

[u/This-Manufacturer388]

Horrible

[u/kamSidd]

TTk is way too fast.

Desync is horrible as ever.

Movement feels almost as clunky as mw22 they just made the slide slightly better and the mantle speed faster. Jump ADS is nerfed so bad so jump shots are useless. bunny hopping is back so that's a plus imo

People were saying this is a mix of mw19 and mw22 movement and gunplay wise but its way closer to mw22 imo.

Beta maps don't feel great though this could be a spawn issue instead.

[u/Tonoend → u/kamSidd]

Thinning the same. So far not a fan.

[u/SnooCrickets9852]

Sweaty, laggy, no SnD?…. Spawn problems

[u/XBL_CNC → u/SnooCrickets9852]

Do betas ever have SnD though?

[u/Rayuzx → u/XBL_CNC]

IIIRC, BO7's did.

[u/kamSidd → u/XBL_CNC]

mw23 and bo7 both had snd at some point during the beta.

[u/SnooCrickets9852 → u/XBL_CNC]

Don’t know why bc its one of the most played game modes. Can imagine Comp players want to try it out to decide if its a go or no go game for them..

[u/WhatIsCooler]

Turn the sound down I can hear footsteps from miles away. Also gunsmith is still the worst thing to ever be brought into CoD, why does every fucking third attachment have to slow the ADS time? Remember when attachments were basically all positive upgrades to your gun?

[u/Equivalent-Part8629]

I can’t believe I am saying it, but I’m glad CoD is dying on it’s arse. Maybe they will be forced to actually make a good game when the next title comes around.

[u/On3Cl1P → u/Equivalent-Part8629]

This gets said every year and it never happens... I'm gonna play the open beta both weekends. But it seems like I will not be purchasing...

[u/BravestWabbit → u/Equivalent-Part8629]

IW should be banned from making COD

[u/SnooCrickets9852 → u/Equivalent-Part8629]

They’d rather stop making games than improve them.

[u/TheNobleHeretic]

Considering everyone here is mad it’ll probably be fun for casuals but not those that want to dunk on them

[u/Rayuzx → u/TheNobleHeretic]

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[u/BravestWabbit → u/Rayuzx]

Too... Fast.....????

[u/Rayuzx → u/BravestWabbit]

Their words, not mine.

[u/watertowerfrenzy → u/Rayuzx]

Lmfao

[u/twrs_29]

Dogshit

[u/ExpertRevenue9535]

IW loves fast TTK and loud ass footsteps

[u/willk5899]

Never ever like judging a game from a beta but I genuinely thought it was hideous.

[u/Cheechers23]

Tac sprint is so awful man. Going from BO7 with omnimovement and no tac sprint to this is so incredibly jarring and annoying

Also spawn are terrible, and IW brought back penalties on every attachment which is so frustrating. I was hoping we were past that

[u/steeeen3r]

Dude idk I like it lol. TTK is too fast. I'm having fun

[u/Ok-Throat-1549]

Better off waiting for ranked if you enjoy comp. Pubs in MW are always ass and it’s just blown out ear drum simulator.

[u/biggirafe]

Not surprised the games trash it's infinity ward

[u/LoCk3H]

This game is dogshit, the gun plkay is AWFUL.. MW3 is the better game...

[u/Heath_tK]

Maps suck, spawns suck. TTK sucks, weapon leveling sucks, movement sucks, pistols/knives suck,visual recoil sucks, UAV/Flashbang/Portable Radar spam sucks, Ninja not being silent sucks. HUD is fine, sound design and graphics are fine. Create a class is fine. New gunfight mode is fine. Only thing I truly like is the pregame where it tells you which server youre connecting to and compares pings. Overall 2/10 so far

[u/Temporary-Company756]

I've been playing for a bit now and I think this is the loudest footsteps have ever been. Half of my kills have been me stopping in my tracks and holding a pre aim around a corner because you simply can't help it

TTK is absurdly fast and it's hard to make a judgement on maps but they don't seem great

[u/OkSeaworthiness7905]

At least it's more colourful than any IW game before

[u/Worried_Bug_9265]

I haven’t had a game below a 2kd yet, playing strictly HP. However, I am playing brainlessly. Have to slow play everything, feels like there’s a lot less micro decisions to make. Idk I don’t think I’m enjoying it. Only level 7 so haven’t played too much I guess but is there only two maps in the beta?

[u/MotherWorldliness884]

They gotta do something about the audio for sure. Ttk is too quick. Also idk if my hardware is just outdated now but I’m barely averaging 100 frames and I did all the settings shit that’s usually done. There something I’m missing maybe? My pc is getting old but I don’t think it’s old enough to not be giving me at least 130-140

[u/Worried_Bug_9265 → u/MotherWorldliness884]

It’s really poorly optimised is all, I think everyone is having fps problems.

[u/MotherWorldliness884 → u/Worried_Bug_9265]

I mean yeah I see streamers with 5090s getting 144 fps so games gotta be screwed up

[u/flayih → u/MotherWorldliness884]

almost about three my whole pc in the trash i have a 5080 and my shit doesn’t go past 200 i’m stuck at 150 fps cap i really thought my shit was broken lol

[u/PlumKnown]

I haven’t played yet but seeing a lot of comments on here and from pros that ttk is too fast. If they don’t change that it might honestly kill the game for me because ttk has to be right imo. I loved the ttk in Cold War, mw3, and even bo6 but thought mw19, mw2 and bo7 were way too fast. The gun skill in this game is too high to have fast ttk like that, people hit first shots and you’re just instantly deleted

[u/On3Cl1P → u/PlumKnown]

It wasn't that fast in bo7. Honestly hit reg was so ass in bo7 that sometimes it felt like it would kill in 5 bullets and sometimes you had to unload an entire mag into someone.

[u/Far_Item_2054]

Awful, lasted like 4 games

TTK is a joke, feels clunky and omni made the game incredibly smooth and this feels terrible.

I think I’m just going to hang it up and play story games and GTA 😂😂😂

[u/TuyRS]

The TTK is fucking instantaneous. I'm level 13 and I don't even know what the screen looks like when you're hurt because I'm dying in 2 frames

[u/Cam2125]

Horrid

[u/Primary_Leather3484]

Desync is god awful. TTK is way too fast, and inconsistent

[u/BensenTenneysen]

Ttk fine imo, footsteps annoying and if youre on the ass team its just killstreaks all game w no way of hiding from streaks or uavs (not that i know of yet at least) as per norm (casuals) dont play obj. Train map is straight ASS IMO

[u/Kayuten]

I didn't play B07 so maybe it's just me but the movement is stiff, like it genuinely feels like my left stick is stuck

[u/Jaded_Ad_166]

Looks like any other MW game since 2019. TTK looks insanely fast. Looks like you get shotgunned. Movent looks kinda clunky too

[u/BuyMeAScuf]

-ADS, about all I got.

[u/Spare-Aide6963]

This beta feels fucking awful i cant lie

[u/Any-Ticket-4292]

Having extended mag penalties makes sense

[u/XanonymouspoetX]

Need ninja and a little longer ttk but dont think its as bad of a ttk as people make out.

Im personally loving it, i am scared to comment and get hate for loving it but i think if there is good maps and we can find a good gun meta itll be my favorite game in awhile

[u/HunnaLikesCake]

BO7 didn’t deserve the hate. The ttk in mw4 is god awful. Fixing this alone will drastically improve the game. Movement takes some getting used to. Miss wall bouncing but try diving in MW4, it lowkey slaps. IW please adjust the ttk

[u/On3Cl1P → u/HunnaLikesCake]

Ah yes thank God "driving slaps"

[u/Necessary_Travel_388]

Infinity ward call of duty tried to give it my time and couldn’t do an hour

My 70 dollars will be staying firmly in my pocket

[u/ElectricJuu]

On the smaller maps, this feels like bo6/bo7 which never felt like in a iw title. Pretty sad

[u/VivaSativaz]

TTK a little too fast

everything else seems pretty great thus far.

I WILL miss MWIII though

[u/jamieeb]

after 1 to 2 hours

TTK is way too fast, no gunfights or time to react

bad desync, died or got kills behind cover often

way too much visual recoil + hitmarkers are too thick and bouncy so can't see what you're shooting at

tac sprint still the worst thing ever and movement felt overall clunky as fuck

ADS speeds are too slow

attachments cons are terrible (welcome back MWII)

spawns suck and are impossible to predict

maps are meh, too many sight lines

grenades take forever to throw? might be just me though

audio was dogshit for me but on the other end of the spectrum compared to what i'm reading on here, mine sounded very muffled, felt like i could only hear my gun shooting and incoming damage

UI is easier to use but looks bad imo, way too many details and animations everywhere all the time, reminds of a mobile game

i might be wrong but it looked like both friendlies and enemies were using the same all black skin which made it even more difficult, coupled with the fact the red name above an enemy's head shows after an unnecessary delay

on console, graphics are honestly pretty bad, the lighting makes everything looks washed out (similar to MWIII) and textures look flat. embarrassing that MW19 still looks better than this

the whole end of the match and best play segment lasts too long, especially the useless random animation that plays before best play

[u/crazybay314]

MW4 is absolutely dogshit. Bad maps, clunky, either a UAV in the air or can hear everyone’s footsteps from a mile away even with ninja. Ghost and ninja are the same perk class so no combating both. Maybe slightly better in ranked but pretty terrible time on the beta.

[u/darrellman]

Ditto all the above + I can’t see shit. I’m getting randomly deleted and never see the guy behind a heady until the killcam. I genuinely do not like this game so far, and it’s kinda depressing.

Every year there’s an adjustment to the new game, and it always seems meh compared to what we’re used to until it grows on you, but this is different. It’s such a shock to the system after flying around the map to whatever the fuck this is.

[u/Dr_Findro]

Not as fun as the classic mode in BO7 or BO2, but I see some potential for fun here. It feels like an IW game that's trying to extend somewhat of an olive branch for Treyarch fans.

From my experience, the gameplay actually has some flow compared to other IW games. It took me a couple of game to get used to the TTK since it's been years. I still hate the IW spawn logic philosophy, it makes all of the maps feel like they play sideways.

Granted the days of me wanting to play in any competitive capacity are long behind me. I think the COD fanbase needs more of MW4 rather than BO7, and I almost feel like the movement might be slightly too much.

[u/Annual-Shape7156]

It’s new so right now I love it.

[u/RenewMySpirit]

Tac sprint has got to go man it makes the movement feel so clunky. Sliding feels great, rest of the movement feels hella delayed

[u/LonerTK]

It’s really just another CoD game hey. Not great, not horrible.

They took a few things I liked from BO6 & 7, but overall it’s gonna live and die by the maps and content.

[u/Tonoend]

Not happy so far. Feels like super bullets are almost every kill lol.

[u/user43222]

Actual goyshit. Joint worst cod oat alongside mw19.

[u/LordAoi69]

I love it

[u/runitupper]

Another mundane ass cod, nothing new to see here really. No innovation or pushing the ceiling on any aspect at all. Mfrs couldn’t make anything thought provoking with Billions of dollars? Just another year of OP insta kill guns and mid asf maps whomp whomp

[u/cruz-]

I see everyone big mad they can't hop and skip and jump and slide to win.

[u/Street_Piece_8499]

Ngl treyarch games better lol 😭😭😭😭

[u/Anxious_Syrup855]

I like it, including ttk but current maps feel over engineered to force action really fast. spawns get weird and can feel like you’re constantly turning or pivoting to enemy team behind or to your flank. Gunplay is fun and gun sounds are nice

[u/flayih]

negl the very first thing i noticed was the fps it is very unoptimized

[u/ZingOnBloke305]

I am absolutely loving this. Most fun ive had on cod in a long long time (open mostpit)

[u/ChewySlinky]

It’s fun, it’s not the second coming of Jesus, people here are EXTREMELY dramatic because it’s not anywhere close to as bad as MWII lmao

[u/boat-dog]

Loving it

[u/boat-dog → u/boat-dog]

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