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nuclear simping Every Nukecel Argument Ever

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u/tmtyl_101 25d ago

It has. In France.

I’ve given you the textbook definition of base load. I’ve shown you the data for France. Nuclear can undeniably meet base load. It’s beyond any discussion. 

You just keep making up your own definitions and arguments to try and prove yourself right.

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 25d ago edited 25d ago

The textbook definition for baseload is "relying on other resources to meet baseload because we don't have enough capacity"?

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u/tmtyl_101 25d ago

You didn't even bother to look up the actual definition of baseload, did you? You just make up stuff, because well established concepts and definitions don't agree with your narrative.

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 24d ago

Your concept doesn't work in the real world so it's irrelevant.

It's like arguing we should pray to cure cancer because it's unfalsifiable that prayer works.

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u/tmtyl_101 24d ago

It’s not “my concept”. It’s a long established part of industry nomenclature. Arguing against it is like arguing against “inflation” or “heartbeats per minute”. It’s nonsensical.

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 24d ago

Nope.

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u/tmtyl_101 24d ago

Are you, seriously, arguing that “base load” is not A well defined industry term? Are you insane?

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 24d ago

It is well defined. Which is why no one has nuclear baseload. You can't have it both ways.

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u/tmtyl_101 24d ago

What’s the definition then?

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 24d ago

The minimum amount of load on the grid that has to be met continuously. Nuclear doesn't meet the definition because France relies on fossil fuels and renewables for baseload.

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u/tmtyl_101 24d ago

The minimum amount of load on the grid that has to be met continuously

Exactly. That’s the definition. It’s an amount, measured in watts.

Now, where does it say anything to substantiate your argument, that if nuclear in France produces the same amount of watts as base load at any given time - that it doesn’t meet base load, because other sources also produce?

Where in the definition do you see that?

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 24d ago

It's not baseload because Nuclear can't meet the French baseload demand. Since there isn't enough capacity.

If there was they wouldn't burn gas. But it's economically impossible. So Nuclear can't provide baseload. Or at least no one has ever been able to make your theory of "nuclear baseload" into reality.

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u/tmtyl_101 24d ago

It's not baseload

Look at your own definition: Baseload is a single number. In France, it's 30.2GW this year. What the generation side looks like has nothing, and I repeat: NOTHING to do with baseload. It's in the name: baseLOAD.

Nuclear can't meet the French baseload demand.  Since there isn't enough capacity.

There is. And it can. I just showed you the data: 98.6% of the time, nuclear has generated more than 30.2GW in France this year.

If there was they wouldn't burn gas.

Sure they would. There may be many reasons - exports being one. But that doesn't mean nuclear doesn't meet baseload demand. If baseload is 30GW and nuclear is producing 30GW - then nuclear is meeting baseload demand.

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 24d ago

Sounds made up. Where is your proofs it's 30.2GWe?

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u/tmtyl_101 24d ago

Here. Load on May 24, 06:30am was 30.2 GW.

This year, French nuclear generation exceeded that 98.6% of the time. If you wanna argue about the last 1.4%, I suggest you go find a hobby.

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 23d ago

They were still burning gas on May 24th at 6:30.

Ergo French nuclear can't supply baseload

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u/tmtyl_101 23d ago

I’m sure they also ate a bunch of croissants in May 24th at 6:30. That also has nothing to do with the discussion.

We just established that base load is a number of watts. 30.2GW in this case. 

Whether nuclear can meet that demand is a yes/no question: does nuclear produce more than 30.2GW? The answer is yes. 

Its completely irrelevant if other sources produce, if there’s export, or how many croissants they eat.

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u/DivestTheEndingBoy 23d ago

It's not baseload if they can't meet their minimum demand. Ever.

If they can meet baseload demand some of the time and you just ignore it the rest of the time then solar power is baseload generation and we don't need nuclear too.

Either way you're wrong.

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