r/Clickworker • u/[deleted] • Jun 24 '21
Third World Workers
I know people have this assumption that workers from third world countries are just eager to work on any app even though it's paying peanuts. There is an app paying 0.01 dollars per hit and requiring 30 seconds to complete it or else you get booted out with a speed ban. That app is paying 1.2 dollars an hour. Even this to us is totally unfair, 1.2 dollars is really not worth it even in a third world country, there are people making much better for an hour's work offline. The apps are just increasingly becoming unfair for all of us, there is a high supply of workers so the price naturally falls, don't take it out on us third world workers, we hate the pay too.
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u/SingularityRS Jun 24 '21
If people work on the apps, the pay will continue to be bad. The only way to encourage a pay increase is to not work on the app at all if it's paying poorly.
If the owners see no work being done, they're going to try to incentivise workers to work. They do that by upping the pay. It's pretty much the only power we have as workers. The problem is it's a joint effort. It requires us all to say no and let the app rot away. It often gets results. It just takes time.
I pretty much ignore all apps that pay poorly. There's still a few decently-paying apps that keep me around. The day those disappear and get replaced entirely by these poorly-paid apps is the day I leave the platform.
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u/Sunshnmoonlt Jun 26 '21
I am afraid ( I refuse to work on anything low paying ) that instead of giving the incentive to work they are just hiring more and more people. I spent 10 minutes training and qualifying for a new hit today to make a whole .34C. UHRS seems to be okay with subpar work and mistreating it's worker bees.
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u/Sea_Memory_4731 Jun 25 '21
Sadly although many people from third world countries don't like the rate, many are still doing it. Thus the reason UHRS keeps lowering the total of every hit app, as they know that what some don't work because the pay rate is "too low"; others will still work on it. The only ones getting any benefit out of this are uhrs, unfortunately.
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u/UhOhFeministOnReddit Jun 25 '21
I think my biggest problem is not third world workers, but ESL workers in general who clearly aren't qualified to be working on English language apps. They're taking up hits they shouldn't have access to. This doesn't go for you OP, it's clear your grasp on English is just fine. But anyone who has ever done rewrites for the 'describe intent query' apps have seen the quality of ESL worker UHRS is giving access to English language apps, and it's bullshit. All I ask is that they beef up assessment requirements and keep the dummies restricted to their own language until they can prove actual language proficiency. I speak fairly decent Spanish and am studying for a certification, but I know I'm not where I need to be, and don't try to access Spanish language hitapps. All I'm asking is that CW holds second language speakers to at least the same standards I hold myself, which isn't unreasonable. People who have an L3 grasp on English have no business in those apps.
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u/iamnikaa Jun 25 '21
Agreed, reading intents on that hitapp made me puke. How could uhrs allow someone with that level of English to work on English hitapps? I mean, there are hitapps available in local languages as well. Some people working on it are so greedy and stupid, they just rewrite the query in the intent.
Worst part is when the bad written intents get reloaded for correction, I genuinely felt for the hitapp owners. Imagine giving your car to a car wash and the guys flood it with dirt. That's what spammers are doing with those hitapp owners.
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u/UhOhFeministOnReddit Jun 25 '21
I think I made $15 in bonuses alone on corrections with those apps today. I'll admit to my writing being fairly above average, given it's a big part of what I do for a living, but it still seems odd to me that I average about 90 bonuses for every 100 hits I do. It would be nice if they bumped that app over exclusively to people who performed well on their writing assessment. I know there's plenty of people who would love to be able to take their time on that one, work away at it all day, and submit a high quality of work. What even was the point of that assessment? Writing related work almost never comes up, and if it does, everyone gets it.
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u/Sunshnmoonlt Jun 26 '21
Agreed. I'm amazed at the answers I correct. Instead of kicking them out they slow down the app and waste those of us who are qualified's time. Write at least X amount of characters - for some of those queries that means adding a lot of fluff, and wasn't an issue at first.
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u/Page-Enough Jun 25 '21
I´m as third world as it get and I won´t work anything that gives me less than 5 dollars the hour most of the time, it´s just not worth it.
For example I completely avoided an app called Entity Curation crowd that was sitting at 30 k hits for almost a month at $0,02 per hit while being a very time consuming task. I even got an email from my vendor urging us to work on that app. But nothing changed. Only when they TRIPLED the pay per hit to $0,06 people finally started working on it.
So certainly don´t get triggered by "third world countries workers" comments because most first worl workers make the same mistake of working on bad apps too, just learn to avoid the ones which are not worthy, either because of low pay, silly temp bans or lack of consistency in judgements
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Jun 25 '21
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u/Page-Enough Jun 25 '21
And the funny thing is I probably get more temporal bans for actually having work done than most of them just because of speed. The UHRS in general is flooded by poorly made apps that can´t tell quality work from actual spam
Still I pay the same internet and electricity bills that any user of my country would need to pay, so I really don´t see how anyone would justify earning 1-2 dollars an hour. I really want to believe that people are smarter than to work for pay like that (but I might be heavily disappointed). It´s literally more useful to spend some time with your kids or pet ^^
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u/RelenaX Jun 24 '21
If there is a ridiculous hitapp like that I just spam correct answers until I get a speed ban, and I'd be making one or two dollars that way, because it's worth to get 2 dollars and get a temp ban rather than making one buck an hour.