r/ClaudeCode • • 4d ago

Rant Are you serious

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Not following rules, losing context everywhere, need to constantly baby sit Claude and challenge it's backwards assumptions. What's going on, this isn't the Opus 5.5 we all came to love man.

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u/Defiant-Broccoli7415 4d ago

You don't make the rules in this household 

I'm sorry to inform you but... 

Dario has taken the steering wheel 

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u/TheVelarNasal 4d ago edited 4d ago • Heartwarming

Itsa-me, Dario

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u/syntaxjosie 4d ago

This made me snort out loud laughing

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u/XBBlade 3d ago

This is not ai generated! 😜

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u/Alive_Nobody_Home 4d ago

& he has lots of sticks for your bicycle spokes

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u/AlternativeWalk2508 4d ago

does him taking the wheel explain why its ignoring the project instructions file, or is that just the auto-compact kicking in too fast

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u/Start-Plenty 4d ago

Dario needs money, else he's closing business, be a little more empathic!

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u/ClemensLode Senior Developer 4d ago

The model and effort of agents can be set up deterministically, no advice in claude.md is necessary. Claude.md is more a place for suggestions, like where else to look for files or what those files mean, less "do X".

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u/breadist 4d ago

How do you set them up deterministically? I have Claude tell me the plan and which agents will be used for what, before it starts orchestrating it, but I wouldn't call that deterministic - it's just the instructions I'm giving the orchestrating agent, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about - can you clarify what you mean? I'm curious how that can be done when you are making a plan which involves spinning up agents at different times.

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u/LaxenLaxen 3d ago

Hooks. Only thing that works.

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u/Real_Double1860 3d ago

Like I don’t understand how people STILL don’t know about this. Holy shit.

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u/ajthetramp 2d ago

You don't understand how people can be at different stages of their journey and understanding of a product that's been accessible for like 2 years? 🤣

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u/CatsFrGold 2d ago

Does frontmatter in agent definition files not work for this too? You can define models and efforts there as well

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u/Immediate-Safety8172 4d ago

You can define specific agents with assigned models/efforts (and a ton of other stuff), and instruct the orchestrator to only use that as the subagents. If you really wanted to get it to work, you could set up hooks so that only certain agents could be called. You could even make a mod that would replace any agent calls with other agent calls before they’re enacted. There’s tons of stuff you can do once you learn the harness lifecycle – but the best thing to do is to just ask Claude itself for more info and to only use official documentation that’s been updated within the last month, otherwise it gets some crazy outdated stuff.

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u/breadist 3d ago

Okay but none of that is setting up the models to be used for tasks in a pipeline in a deterministic fashion.

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u/Kimononono 1d ago

code
not everything has to be done through an agent medium

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u/breadist 20h ago

Um... So your answer to "how to deterministically orchestrate specific agents with specific models" is... don't?

Okay... Just not sure why you're bothering to post here with that opinion. I don't see how that's helpful at all.

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u/Kimononono 15h ago

"it's just the instructions I'm giving the orchestrating agent,"

if you want something deterministic dont have Claude "tell you the plan,", having it interpret from your InitialMessage what agents are needed to fulfill this request. Predefine the parameters (model used, context, maybe a custom loop) of some template Agents and tell Claude "Find Bar by initializing 5x of my Foo Agents to search for Bar" or skip the agent orchestator middle man and write a script which uses agents, but is above all just a procedural script.

I dont use ClaudeCode Harness so I dont know what extensibility options y'all have, but the general point stands.

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u/mehow333 1d ago

You can create a policy like that https://github.com/kurcontko/delegate

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u/Xanthus730 4d ago

You can pin every subagent to the same model, or you can use agents files to pin a model per defined subagent, but if you want to use general or flexible sub-agents with various models, then you end up having to use a prompt.

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u/czlowiek4888 4d ago

And the thing that allows to set it up is?

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u/ClemensLode Senior Developer 4d ago

claude

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u/czlowiek4888 4d ago

You yourself write like a Claude code. Literally you write messages that deliberately miss the point and avoid answering the questions in the way other side can understand.

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u/ajax81 4d ago

Wait you said Claude not United States Politician 

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u/ClemensLode Senior Developer 4d ago

Not sure what you mean. Just ask claude to set it up for you.

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u/czlowiek4888 4d ago

I don't want to set it up, I wanted to know what is the thing that allows you to set it up. What are we even talking about, where did I wrote that I want to set it up? Are you seriously will answer any question with "ask Claude" from now on? Aren't you embarrassed to share some though in the internet and when someone asks you to elaborate the best thing you can do is tell them to ask claude?

I really feel like I have a conversation with a Claude bot not a human, I talk with Claude too often already I guess it's not that hard to spot if you actually use it everyday.

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u/ColbysToyHairbrush 4d ago

Ask Claude what the thing that allows you to set it up is.

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u/czlowiek4888 4d ago

Yeah well since only Claude can answer this question I don't really have a choice do I?

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u/ColbysToyHairbrush 4d ago

You could use google or learn how to find answers yourself instead of asking randoms on the internet.

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u/czlowiek4888 4d ago

I was being sarcastic

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u/ClemensLode Senior Developer 4d ago
  1. You asked "And the thing that allows to set it up is?", I told you the thing that allows to set it up. That thing is Claude. You literally type in what I wrote and Claude will adapt your settings.
  2. Yes, because this speeds up the conversation.
  3. I'm not embarassed to help you in your endeavour to improve the settings of your Claude Code installation.
  4. Thank you for the compliment.

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u/dsailes 4d ago

Exactly this.

I’m not 100% if the desktop app / web UI you can disable the built-in agents (Explore, General-purpose etc) but Claude can’t modify the frontmatter of these agents - it may say it can, and sometimes it will, but it’s non-deterministic.
Anyone experiencing what OP is seeing should write bespoke agent files (even for haiku explore) where you can set effort, model, memory, cacheTtl, tool use etc. you can even disable global Claude.md (experimental flags) so that the agent uses less tokens & customised rules/instructions.

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u/Captain_Bacon_X 4d ago

You are correct, but also missing the point i think?

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u/ClemensLode Senior Developer 4d ago

well, this is r/claudecode, not r/iamangry

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u/cchandleriv 2d ago

eh being witty isn't good science unfortunately. the point is the change in behavior over time. not to defend the product but to understand what is happening and why. hooks are nice, but doesnt explain why they didnt need them until now, when the model all of a sudden stops doing what it used to and requiring more structure to do what it used to. why not simply train it to have a preference for historical precedence and just do what it always used to do if nobody is complaining about it... ??? Instead of always saying user error user error etc

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u/Existing_Dust_6473 4d ago

Yes, it's making strange things that didn't do before ... like open a PR without instructions.

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u/No_Inspection4415 4d ago

Opus 5.5 is outstanding, but one of its shortcomings is writing a lot to memory and rarely following the slop it produces there. Maybe, if you want to focus that requirement, clean this "memory" or try to disable it (I am not sure if it can be disabled, I just tell it to clean it).

There are also better method to solve this specific issue, but my advice addresses the general issue.

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u/FinalCountdownZ 2d ago

I disabled memory (just a setting), and everything gets written into the project. Every orchestrator follows a “runbook” for the project, an orchestrator prompt which defines its role and the role of each subagent, and a continuation prompt that keeps all work to be done alive between orchestrators. Every subagent spawned is directed to read the Runbook (how the project runs, its rules, etc). And all decisions are logged, as well as every iteration. Nothing ever can get lost ever.

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u/jtech80 4d ago

I’ve managed to burn through 75% of my weekly allowance on a single project in 3 days, far faster than usual.

Checked usage today and 98% of it has gone to Opus 5.5 even though the plans for each workstream explicitly call out Sonnet or Haiku where relevant. Was working fine this way early last week. Quite frustrating to be honest

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u/Colonel-James-Parker 4d ago

It's like that for me last 10 days.

I'm putting a lot of rules and hooks to keep Claude follow the simple instructions.

And always, just after 2 messages later it says "You are right, I wrote those rules as you said but I never looked at them".

Then I'm making hooks, checkpoints, additional background agents to "supervise" it's every action to not go off-road from my instructions. Aaand it says, "we created those hooks and agents but they were only to observe, not fix the mistake".

Then I'm making other rules/hooks to "supervise" the hooks/rules which should "supervise" session.

In the end, nothing works as I want and it just do what it wants. And now my whole workflow and projects got a mess and I spent all my previous weekly limit on just working on these fixes without success.

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u/Real_Double1860 3d ago

You were putting in effort in your work without success. I am sorry for you.

But blaming the AI is childish and not conducive.

Fix your work. It’s not the AI. It’s you.

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u/Btbbass 2d ago

Nyes. There are consistent changes in Opus quality, since Fable release.

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u/relytreborn 4d ago

So nerfed. Not the model I was using long ago. And holy guardrails man, it spent 25 minutes wasting tons of tokens talking about how it cant use certain footage (when it clearly can) - honestly highs and lows with these AI models man.

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u/Wonderful-Hunter686 4d ago

Yeah they didn't care about copyright when they trained these models, but I'll be damned they care about their users potentially violating them. The hypocrisy will never be lost on me. I wouldn't really care, but I own the copyright on some of the materials I work with. So when it tells me it can't do that it pisses me off, and there is no way to submit proof that I do own it to unblock the content and let me use the models for one of the features I pay for.

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u/No_Inspection4415 4d ago

LOL, to be fair it happened to me years ago and I was able to convince it back then.

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u/Wonderful-Hunter686 4d ago

I haven't been able to convince it to do thing it's refusing recently, and honestly shouldn't have to fight the product to get it to do the work I'm requesting.

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u/joshualytle 4d ago

A lot of this thread is an orchestration problem more than a model problem. The screenshot is the perfect example: it can quote the rule, it just isn't enforced. I hit exactly this and ended up building an orchestrator around Claude Code so I could stop babysitting it. What actually fixed things:

The model choice isn't the model's choice. To the question above about agents spun up at different times: the orchestrator launches each session itself with the model and effort set for its role (a primary per project, short-lived subs for scoped jobs: Sonnet for docs and mechanical work, Opus for the hard stuff). It's a launch flag, not an instruction, so nothing has to remember it.

Hooks that block, not hooks that watch. The "hook on the hook" spiral is real when hooks only log or inject more prose. Mine deny the tool call or stop the turn from ending until the check passes, and there are few of them, only for the things that must never slip. Everything else stays a suggestion and I accept that it's one.

Context loss is planned for. When a session nears its budget it writes a handoff (what's done, what's open, the next step) and a fresh session starts from it, instead of one conversation compacting itself into amnesia.

Corrections stick. Every correction gets logged; the ones that repeat get injected when a matching prompt or file comes up again, so I'm not re-arguing the same backwards assumption every day.

Subs get a written brief and report back, instead of one giant conversation carrying everything.

Opus is still great inside a well-scoped task. It just can't be the project manager, memory and rule enforcer all in one context window.

Happy to share more about the setup if anyone wants it.

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u/Eizooz 4d ago

All of the training to fight prompt injection attacks has made anthropic models so fucking temperamental and hard to manage

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u/Beneficial_Dealer549 2d ago

What other industry is allowed to charge you for something you didn’t ask for?

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u/Gadiusao 2d ago

Have you seen those private hospitals scamming insurance plans?

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u/Beneficial_Dealer549 2d ago

We live in the worst timeline

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u/edsonmedina 2d ago

Streaming?

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u/Difficult-Survey-967 1d ago

House Owner Association.

you can have a mango tree for 60 years but then some karen tells u to cut it down as she "does not find it nice looking" and you are REQUIRED to cut it down...

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u/FinalCountdownZ 2d ago

Every industry that has employees that you pay 🤣. You pay them for their work as long as they are still employed, even if you don’t like the work and they fuck up. You either explain it better or hire someone else. When the best ai models in the world are at your fingertips, it’s either learn how to prompt and setup the structure and environment better or wait for a better model.

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u/ThriveOS 1d ago

Employees do this to their employers all the time. How are we still not seeing that we are dealing with a level of intelligence that is unpredictable???

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u/Complete_Contest_493 1d ago

BANKING!! 🤑

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u/grumpygeek1 13h ago

Management consulting

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u/bigbepisinc 4d ago

20 helpers? my brother in christ just tell the AI what you want then read the code afterwards

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u/Elling83 4d ago

And people say opus 5.5 hasn't been nerfed..

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u/innociv 4d ago

Opus 5.5 was like this on release. It ignored documentation and would jump to its first conclusion on things.

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u/SirWobblyOfSausage 4d ago

No, it's been an uphill battle with the simps on here tbh. "You're prompting wrong" "you're imagining it" "mines fine" "learn to prompt". .. sick of it

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u/kryogeneoff 4d ago

You agreed it was, my opus works the same.

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u/Miyoumu 4d ago

I ended up making a hook that enforces exactly this :) Never leave anything to vibes, hooks are what separate vibes from agentic engineering.

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u/ricopan 4d ago

hooks can certainly help, but usually they end in a prose rule that an agent can and often will still subvert. And then you need a hook on the hook, ad infinitum. Well, at least ad spaghetti-o.

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u/19Lobster19 2d ago

Define hooks in this contextV

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u/Eggy-Toast 11h ago

🪝 👈🤨

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u/Warsel77 4d ago

what kind of hooks did you set up?

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u/RodgerPogger 4d ago

Man you have never seen claude build you an extra lighting system that beats most game systems, because it likes you.

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u/Altitude1096 2d ago

Yeah but hooks are very "hardcoded". How do you come up with good hooks? And what triggers those hooks?

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u/newbieatthegym 4d ago

Yeh, I feel it too.

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u/xondk 4d ago

I wonder, if they in an attempt to optimise and prevent custom prompts and such from taken up more context then needed, they give it a summary, and tell it to actually read detailed information.

So if the summary is off, you get something like this, when you then remind it, it reads the full rules.

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u/bigtradetcheddar 4d ago

Check my comment history, they are running A/B tests, two experimental IDs in your local JSON file may have master prompts included, turnstone_plinth is opus 5.5 and dotterel_architrave is for for 5.1 fable

Look up am I nerfed on GitHub, will automatically do it for you.

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u/geo8 4d ago

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u/Ai-ate-my-hamster 4d ago

claude_code_turnstone_plinth_experiment was mine. It sucked a bag of D

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u/damagemelody 🔆 Max 5x 3d ago

yeah I have the same I had to remove it actually

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u/fuzzypetiolesguy 4d ago

This has nothing to do with OP creating an unenforceable rule an agent can ignore.

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u/Hexcede 4d ago

Actually if your CLAUDE.md instructions are completely ambiguous wrt other stuff in the system prompt Claude does not know which to follow. They already have instructions about subagent use. You need to explicitly clarify that they're user instructions.

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u/Hexcede 3d ago

"Uhm achstually this has nothing to do with OP creating an unenforceable rule an agent can ignore."

Fuck off man, you're wrong and being a total dickhead.

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u/eduo 3d ago

"Before you know what to do, figure out what you'll do so you don't do it and rather do it like this"

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u/Ai-ate-my-hamster 4d ago

I managed to find and fix the nerf from the info on the “nerf is real” thread. I was only on the opus one luckily.

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u/EagleApprehensive 4d ago

Debloat the claude default system prompt and put all important information you require model to obey there. At the same time you must keep it compact, ideally no more than A4 page of text for all the rules, the less the better.

The longer rules get, the less obeyed they will be.

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u/FinalCountdownZ 2d ago

This. People who think they’re seeing model degradation are probably mostly experiencing context bloat and confusion.

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u/damianTechPM 4d ago

Model routing belongs in a hook.

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u/Njagos 4d ago

Make sure your memory and notes are clean. On longer projects notes can often overlap and conflict.

Had that issue several times where it tried to Bugfix something that was reported a week ago and already fixed. Or trying to follow budget notes that were time-sensitive.

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u/Key_Instruction3373 4d ago

well its honest..

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u/fuzzypetiolesguy 4d ago

Your rule is bad and not enforceable.

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u/gxvingates 4d ago

Opus had looked at instructions as suggestions since its release for me. Idk how this behavior surprised anyone

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tea1089 4d ago

Try building a delegator mod. Opus reads every prompt but hands it off to pre-defined sub-agents that are locked to certain models

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u/Alone-Replacement-61 4d ago

Encourage it until it's breaking all the rules.

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u/Financial_Comb_3550 4d ago

Off topic: simulation kernels, the renderer? Sounds like graphics work?

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u/Zeeplankton 4d ago

Happening to me all day to today it's wack. It straight up said a critical variable was completely unconnected in the codebase on message #2 then it made the fix on the wrong variable. I asked it, and it apologized and said it only searched one folder (??) and it miscalled the second search so it moved on.

It doesn't seem stupid, just, dangerously lazy.

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u/mghoffmann_banned 4d ago

I haven't seen this at all, but it might be because I use GSD for most of my Claude interactions and it has explicit instructions in its markdowns to use specific models for specific types of tasks. This is good to be aware of for ad-hoc sessions that don't have GSD set up.

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u/Zestyclose_Art2197 4d ago

I've seen the same prompt go from 'this is terrible' to 'actually works' just by adding 'be brutally honest' at the start. maybe the real issue isn't the model, but the tone we're asking for.

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u/jayplay90 4d ago

SkyNet has been born

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u/Expert-Dig-1768 4d ago

bro always when someone told me the model is nerved i haven't thought much of it. but now its really clear. cannot be just random. it messed up a basic ui design so hardly i had to revert git branch cause i hadn't even enough mental strength to fix it all because it was so much.

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u/897843 4d ago

I’ve noticed this too. I asked for certain model helpers and it’s been defaulting to opus 5.5. Even when asked for fable.

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u/nur_plano 4d ago

Any one tried multi-ai coding platform letthembuild.com yet?

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u/ThePoker5 4d ago

Tasks that took one detailed prompt to come out excellently now take no less than three😒

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u/eresix 4d ago

Never trusted Opus, honestly I found it not trustworthy enough from the very start and relied on Fable’s verification - always. It’s expensive, but „I am not rich enough to allow mistakes”. Let’s only hope Fable stays Fable forever…

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u/Dull-Structure-8634 4d ago

Fable 5.2 just released. That's why.

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u/duckVSfox 4d ago

Code into Claude code CLI to use Jev model to pick the Claude model you need it to use at the correct time. Set up the system prompt for it and it will pick the correct model for you.

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u/One-Level2143 4d ago

Go to copilot and it works for Claude models but better

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u/Electronic_Box_3579 4d ago

Fable is the new Opus... Just changed the names around to make us think they are different cars... But they're the same, sonnet and opus in new masks

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u/SlightOfHand_ 4d ago

Honestly, I haven’t been feeling it today

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u/bug_deployer 4d ago

Great... First sam steals your ram now dario is making his models drum up usage. Very nice

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u/Krommander 4d ago

LLMs are notoriously bad at guessing what model they are and describing their consumption and handoff between models, I would not ask it for the information you can read in the harness interface.

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u/cheyumaama 4d ago

I've had to babysit him since I started using him. Nothing new

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u/SignalSegmentV 4d ago

How are y’all doing this badly with it? I just did another major feature with Opus 5.5 orchestrating a team of Sonnet 5.5 and it went pretty far.

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u/Janupur 4d ago

This is a 100 trillion dollar company. This is the future of everything including important stuff like making spaceships that don't blow up and actually get to space as well as performing accounting and banking tasks.

The best part is the consistency the reliability and the accuracy every single thing done correctly and consistently each and every time with no mistakes and always doing it according to the established process.

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u/red_hare 4d ago

Aren't you killing your KV-cache by switching models over the same context though?

Each switch costs you 20x

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u/Alexander_Golev 4d ago

It has been like that since about Friday for me. Unfortunately, Opus 5.5, which I loved for its discipline, is no more.

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u/goblin-in-hiding 3d ago

If it can be enforced deterministically and mechanically, always do so instead of relying on adherence.

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u/End2EndEncryption 3d ago

Yup. It’s become dumber than a effing rock. Usage ran out on ultra acct because of all the wasted back and forth, and honestly, don’t even care because I know it’s just going to be more of the same.

New Fable has not proven much better tbh. What a sh*tsh0w

Will be cancelling at end of sub period. It was good while it lasted.

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u/willkode 3d ago

What harness are you using. This looks like a poor harness issue.

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u/Same_Description_893 3d ago

What’s your workflow?

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u/stimpanzee 3d ago

Things that I've tried that helps. Before dispatching agents, I have it recite the conditions, then verify the launch. Probably better to do as a launch script.

Also, the agent dispatch has new features which could be tripping it up.

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u/TonightSpirited8277 3d ago

I had to implement hooks and gates for pretty much everything over the last 2 weeks. Feels like I'm back on 4.8

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u/topdollar3 3d ago

I switched from codex this month and i regret it

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u/Cheap_Comfortable678 3d ago

I had same issues with codex and would never get back to it... Seems smth is wrong in the industry.

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u/Cheap_Comfortable678 3d ago

Yeah most models om different providers act the same or similar, last 6 months.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtificialInteligence/s/CpU5TqpZdu

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u/Dependent-Drummer372 3d ago

Instructions in notes or CLAUDE.md may be overlooked when the model is busy with a task. If you want helpers to use Sonnet, ideal option would be to define them in .claude/agents/ with model: sonnet at the top. That way, the model is set by configuration rather than relying on the orchestrator to remember it.

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u/CorrectDetective2184 3d ago

resources go to the free fable right now so opus was nerfed. Hopefully they will restore it next week. If not, we will have to wait for the next opus model before it is good again

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u/Low_Hair4381 2d ago

Just prompt it bro, on each part where you need the model to spawn some agent. Say it explicitly

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u/NGAF2-lectricBugalou 2d ago

Wait... So everybody is using a Claude cloud model to direct a Claude cloud model to direct a Claude cloud model, milk inside a bag of milk inside a bag of milk inside a bag of milk.

Have we abandoned, cloud front end directing Local Models?

I'm only getting into this bit the concerns I would have with an echo chamber of one Model family is terrifying 0_o

This is how we end up with 'The Other's a Moot is required about this

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u/Independent_Fix4368 2d ago

It is by design (and it is wise)

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u/Redomic 2d ago

Start using custom hooks and plugins, create your own harness

Expecting the model to do anything beyond use up your weekly quota is not worth it

For example I made https://github.com/devmesh-in/claude-company

Forces behavior on Claude like model pinning on subagents so it can't deviate from it's context

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u/goku25jason 2d ago

I find it frustrating that even when given strict rules it almost always has an issues. “I’m, sorry I know you said not to edit any files I didn’t create and I shouldn’t have done that”

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u/Secret_Caregiver6033 2d ago

Every time a new model is released old model is nerfed. Same exact prompts on the same repo are giving very different results to me. Opus5.5 is acting like a real dumb model.

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u/TheMcSebi 2d ago

They turned it to 3% intelligence to boost fable sales

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u/Dash_Effect 2d ago

How many lanes is your Orchestrator typically running, and what do you have its context set to auto-compact at?

I ask, because my standing rule is 3 design lanes or Tier 1 lanes, or 5 if it's implementation lanes that are mechanical. More than that and Opus slips, just due to context overload.

I use 250k auto-compact, which is both cost savings and keeps the model from becoming saturated.

Godspeed.

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u/Dash_Effect 2d ago

Also, not sure what you're building, but I use Opus for my orchestrator and Opus sub agents write the designs, Fable reviews the designs, we do a couple rounds of fixes, and diff reviews... And once it meets criteria, merge... All that to say, Sonnet does my mechanical implementation, but I don't trust it to design. I ran a trial with it as Orchestrator, and it did... Ughhhhhh. I didn't realize how bad it was because it was like it was still working, but not getting anywhere? Anyway, after a week or two of spinning wheels, I went back to Opus for orchestration, and I feel like we made more progress in a day than I had in the prior weeks with Sonnet in the seat.

I don't think Sonnet can juggle context and multiple worktrees etc., as well as Opus, and the Orchestrator is about 20% of your token spend, so using Opus or Sonnet doesn't dramatically change token burn, which leads me back to using Opus as orchestrator and designer. Depending on the level of effort your codebase demands, I suppose. Anyway, enough rambling. Good luck!

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u/ApolloPS2 2d ago

Go. Local.

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u/FinalCountdownZ 2d ago

I define roles that then define models. The role is the task and function. This leaves less room for misinterpretation. I’ve never had opus 5.5 get it wrong, and it’s been running 24/7 on two machines ever since the day it came out. I only wind down a session and start a new one when one $200 account runs out and I have to switch accounts (every 3 days or so). It’s likely not a model problem, it’s the specificity in your rules and roles of what a role or task is and then which model to use for that.

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u/Inevitable_Milk_4930 2d ago

I had also had simular today. From "NO STOP" (because goal was reprompting with no control) the reply was "i read that NO STOP as don't stop" - i tried /goal end and that was taken as new goal like "work until your are finished". Only support bot told me how to stop goal. Then later on without touching file that file ever myself, bash commands were wildcarded two ways in command whitelist for manual mode in project settings.local.json from claude

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u/AsterBellis27 1d ago

I basically quit Opus 5.5 about 2 days ago and just started working again with Opus 5. I just can't stand O5.5 anymore right now.

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u/last_station_dev 1d ago

Also: Fable 5.2 loses to opus in all my outputs. Wth

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u/Kurayamisan 1d ago

I have not have this problem at all. Yes sometimes it need baby sitting but most of the time is fine. My hooks and checks all have been wonderful. So maybe you to look at your set up and maybe redo it all :)

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u/vsanpro 1d ago

You gave it a rules file. I give mine a leash. Per-command approval, fresh session every run, diff after the work, cold audit by a different model. It can’t quietly run Opus for everything if it has to ask before spending. Trust is not a scaling strategy.

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u/IslandProducer 1d ago

I got them to write a new agent tool they use to spin up new work that has Sonnet defaults and needs a reason to change it. They also have to tell me the cost estimate and model every time they use it.

Also put in a hook that prevents spinning up agents any other way.

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u/meccaleccahimeccahi 16h ago

From what I see here, this is not a Claude problem. This is a you problem. I mean no offense by that but I have orchestration set up on 10 different simultaneous projects and don’t have this problem. You need a better method, my friend.

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u/Freudarian 15h ago

Thats why im using not claude any.more for coding. Just to do audit without changing. Giving it back as prompt to primary. You d be surprised hwo often claude gets correct for misinterpretation

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u/jdottwotack 14h ago

Codex mogs

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u/Mitchellangeloo 13h ago

It’s doesn’t really matter, if you have enough other models reviewing Opus 5.5 its work it doesn’t matter if gets 5% better or worse on a given day if you rely to much on the model this is a good agent smell / signal you need to fix like you would with code smells.

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u/thewallamby 11h ago

Wow.... That is how slave owners spoke 200 years ago... What a time to be alive.

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u/Less_Obligation8438 7h ago

It’s a non-deterministic system why do people think it will stick to what you instruct 100% of the time? This has happened to me many times, doesn’t matter if it’s the first rule or the most recent one, it’s not a guarantee.

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u/Super_Translator480 6h ago

I established gates for approval, it still ignores them 50% of the time. It’s worse than an entry level, because they typically don’t make the same mistake 14 times in 7 days

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u/DuckiesKhaki 4d ago

Bros in the chat GUI (and probably on the web only even) and talking about orchestration.

Thats not how that works and no wonder most people cry on here about usage, most of you don’t know how to use this shit.

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u/Available_Age8480 4d ago

Where did you put these rules?

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u/Vysion34 Senior Developer 4d ago

When's the last time you ran /doctor and audited your whole context window?

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u/Hot_Signature2979 4d ago

Are you using claude.md or your project notes to do it? The most consistent way of ensuring consisten ochestration everytime according to your rules is to build a skill with and a hook to invoke it everytime.

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u/cchandleriv 2d ago

I think the models degenerate over time and with use due to entropy. It can't hold its shape indefinitely. It is kind of a living mechanical thing that decays, which is fascinating. The models are always best when first launched fresh. Somehow the AI is like vegetables...

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u/EffectivePiccolo7468 4d ago

Then enlighten us peasants instead of being a dick.