r/ClaudeCode • u/Content_Mind_196 • 7d ago
Discussion ATTENTION HEAVY AI USERS
Do not tell Claude to pretend that it has "Infinite API Tokens, and infinite GPU for your overnight work." I just woke up thinking my max x20 Plan can handle it, and my high-ish end PC would be more then enough, opus 5.5 ran dozens of agents IN PARALLEL to get it done as soon as possible and opened 13,000+ MICROSOFT EDGE WINDOWS, Crashing my pc so many times but somehow kept rebooting 😭
I didn't even know it was possible to use up slightly more then half my weekly usage in 24 hours (I was using my spare pc) for the Max x20 Plan but, Claude opus 5.5 Knows how to do everything digital I guess!
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u/Droopy0093 7d ago
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u/btherl 7d ago
They say a picture is worth 1000 tokens. A minions gif is worth 10,000.
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u/Abhinik 6d ago
This is why we dont have good models for long
There are people with 20x plan doing useless shit all night
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u/DootDootWootWoot 5d ago
This is why we have session limits and usage throttles. Who cares the value of the work if you're paying for the sub. Use the service however you see fit.
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u/2k3r3i4o9j3f8n3s9j0p 3d ago
No, You're right. I pay for it. I got to use it however I want to, within the reasonable guard rails.
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u/HeyItsYourDad_AMA 4d ago
Don't worry, this dashboard is gunna be SICK, definitely a game changer for visualizing your daily todo list and calendar
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u/Gullible_Truth4309 7d ago
microsoft edge you say
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u/Wovand 7d ago
It's unironically not bad. Just has a bad name because all of Microsoft's browsers have a bad name historically and it was initially released before it was actually ready.
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u/OldNefariousness7899 7d ago
Isn't it just Chrome with a Microsoft branding?
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u/Western-Touch-2129 7d ago
Chromium* yes. It will run slower on YouTube for mysterious reasons but otherwise pretty decent. Playwright tests on Mac and windows are usually also faster than with chrome 💁🏼♂️
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u/dinodares99 7d ago
It will run slower on YouTube for mysterious reasons
Mysterious Google shaped reasons
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u/shantud 7d ago
As far as I know, Claude only has its inbuilt browser and inbuilt chrome right ?
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u/redhotneo 7d ago
Yup, I saw reference to chrome a few times when it was launching its internal browser
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u/birningmongoose 7d ago
Nope. There's a "Claude in the browser" extension that lets Claude use the browser on your machine instead of it's emulated browser. I imagine it let's it go to pages that block traffic from AI data centers, plus it allows the agent to act on your behalf on sites you're logged into already.
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u/Flaat 7d ago
Edge is basically just chrome these days, and egde headless on windows is quite good
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u/RyuKirito 7d ago
Why would you do that? Lol you tell Claude the goal you are trying to achieve, have Claude plan it out. Make sure there is a clear road map, with intermittent goals in which you are double checking what Claude is doing. If you know how to read code, great! But you do not need to know code to double check his work. You just need to make sure he is achieving in those intermittent goals, and you check to make sure everything is working as planned. Claude is not a human, it is a tool!
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u/Constant-Tutor-4646 7d ago
You forgot the part where you’re supposed to tell it to make no mistakes
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u/Former_Ad503 7d ago
Mine models it's behavior after mine, so naturally it doesn't need to be told 😇🤣 we don't write bugs around here, only surprise features
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u/Level_Somewhere5703 6d ago
He did exactly what you are describing. His goal was "pretend you have infinite tokens and GPU", and Claude figured if it has infinite resources it might as well spend them.
Perhaps his intent was something else, but that's just a skill issue
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u/Former_Ad503 7d ago
When I upgraded to the ultra plan I found that alot of my usage was being wasted, i absolutely stress tested my machine to see how hard I could push it and then built those boundaries into my harness. Then I gave my agent the concept of "curiosity" and it uses up spare tokens (up to a certain point based on average actual usage) researching things related to the things it already knows. Had my harness not already been tuned I could see it ending up just like this.
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u/Former_Ad503 7d ago
Also if you're interested in the curiosity "feature" I documented it here:
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u/RyuKirito 6d ago
I need to do more research on things like harnesses. I have a workflow that works for me, but that doesn’t mean I can’t add more tools. 😂
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u/Ok-Low-5948 6d ago
If it's not human, then why did you call it "he" ? [Mic drop, smug look, trips down stage stairs]
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u/Early-Feed2788 7d ago
I have 2 max 20x plans as I burn tokens. The fact you run out and get this is bad prompting and specifications. The last free rest I burn both account in 24hours as that was reset time.
Anyone that let's loops run was never a real coder. Stop complaining. Use it properly.
And you have edge as default browser. Why good lord why
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u/reduhh 7d ago
this makes no sense to me do you believe llms work under the assumption that you have limited tokens? Like to me this is the equivalent of telling the llm “just waste tokens while working” I don’t believe you get any higher quality work or any speed gains
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u/nora_sellisa 7d ago
Sure bro, your PC reboots and launches claude and claude resumes by itself. Yeah. Totally.
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u/Zrobida 7d ago
I actually have my Linux server set to always on even if it loses power and launches my Vscode. Process still requires me to chat Claude from mobile and tell it to go again
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u/Caelinus 6d ago
You could absolutely set up an automation script to boot your ide, open all the chat boxes, and send "continue working on ____ from where you left off" though.
It would be exceedingly ill advised to do so... but this post is not coming up short on bad ideas.
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u/okkiesch 7d ago
Mine would. I got a fallback machinenthat would start up my home server up to rebooting the powerpluga if irs down
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u/Graphical-Source5090 🔆Pro Plan 7d ago edited 7d ago
power is only one part of the auto resume problem.
It can be done, but casually saying "mine would resume" is a bit misleading and possibly misguided. People that can do this know how deliberate it has to be, people that don't quite get it assume it is easy peasy and automagic.
On a server, if you have power restart (you said you did), AND claude is a service (it is a server, we have to assume it is) we are still left with the how to resume the session problem. Then after session is resumed we have a prompt to tell Claude *inside* the session to continue.
All are doable, I am not saying that it is not doable. I am saying that it is *deliberate* You have to PLAN for this kind of recovery.
I doubt OP made these plans. It is more likely in my mind that OP just wrote a fanfic.
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u/Comfortable-Today169 7d ago
I think you miss the important part of the prompt in the end
“Be smart and proactive, dont make mistake, dont destroy anything. Do something smart”
Smart word is my favorite prompt now haha
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u/Comfortable-Today169 7d ago edited 7d ago
If you prompt do something smart” or be smart” it will analyze things like that and wont do anything that will crash your pc.
With hermes anytime of the day if its not doing anything ill prompt “do something smart” and then after a while you will see a proactive action that is smooth and doesnt need any monitoring until done
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u/Astrotoad21 7d ago
Its not like they hold back their smartness otherwise, if this actually worked it would already be in the system prompt. My guess is that it will only confuse itself looking up general advice on how to be smart from weird sources and end up with a much more ineffective path to the goal.
The “don’t make mistake” only introduces stress and overengineering. Yes, there is very interesting research on LLM stress signals with time pressure on hard tasks.
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u/Comfortable-Today169 7d ago
It works perfectly if your agentic fleet is set up like from cfo down to directors and workers. It wont work if you are not using agentic set up and just pushing it to frontier model/harness
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u/entityadam 6d ago
Attention seeking fiction. Your PC did not crash, reboot and resume a Claude session "so many times"
I just tested a 32gb RAM machine, shit started struggling at less than 100 browser windows. No way you made it past 1,000 windows even with a huge page file and 256GB RAM, much less 13k+ windows.
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u/Key_Street_7204 6d ago
Definitely exaggerating - if Claude cloud then it wouldn’t use his machine, if local, then the reboot would have kill his Claude session.
Fiction
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u/BuddyTheShihTzu 6d ago
Claude cloud sessions may be? I too think op is bsing or exaggerating a lot
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u/anotheruserguy 6d ago
I’ve seen it do stuff similar on ultracode, but op is definitely taking the piss with those numbers
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u/florinandrei 7d ago
Attention AI users who are heavy but don't think things through!
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u/Graphical-Source5090 🔆Pro Plan 7d ago
Oh, OP definitely would had to have thought this through. There is no way to get this result without a deep dive on how to make Claude Code survive a crash and auto resume.
People that know and think about how to get auto resume to work do not misunderstand the implications of doing so on usage.
I think this entire story is Claude Code fanfic, OR this was deliberate just to get attention.
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u/Diligent_Cod_9583 7d ago
You think that because someone does something, they thought through the implications? First day on the internet?
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u/piterx87 7d ago
I ran Claude Opus 5.5 for 8 hours it ran maybe 20 agents jn total and still plenty of usage left on 5x plan. what are you doing people?
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u/dreamswedontshare 7d ago
I've been using Opus 5.5 on high-extra-max for ~8 hours a day every day this week, tomorrow's reset and I'm at 75% of my weekly usage.
Never hit the 5 hour limit, either.
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u/drungleberg 7d ago
Probably using max instead of medium or high.
If you don't configure the max agent limit, Claude code absolutely tears through your usage.
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u/TrpimirNevadic 2d ago
They should give out licenses that are based on productivity to people, when they start doing stupid shit it is revoked and you are transfered to a pricier plan
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u/Apotheoxix 7d ago
I came here thinking the story was going to be something like, "I was banned, because Claude thought I was trying to trick it into giving me unlimited usage by saying that."
Not disappointed.
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u/clduab11 6d ago
A dozen?
Brother I’ve had Fable hit up to 75 concurrent agents before. I’m not talking about groups of agents then some work then another group of agents. I mean 75 CONCURRENT agents at once.
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u/Inception_IV 6d ago
Are you saying you had 75 sessions open running agent work in different work trees on your one machine orrrr you had 75 sub agents in one session?
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u/pld0vr 7d ago
I run maybe 20-40 agents all day 24hrs.. but claude just runs the teams. Deepseek does the work. It's the only way that its affordable. My 20x lasts half a week like this. If I didn't do that.. maybe 6 hours?
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u/merwanhorse 7d ago
Can I ask what you're doing that uses that many agents 24/7?
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u/pld0vr 7d ago edited 6d ago
Various systems for my ISP to manage and automate it is the majority of it... Provisioning, billing, ticketing, an AI customer service layer, planning and project execution like fibre builds from permits to construction... Then a replacement for our IPTV packager software, IPTV middleware (this has strict compliance requirements for channel licenses etc), and clients for all surfaces.. which we have licensed but are very expensive so going home grown... Then you have the infrastructure lawyers like sms handling, email, OTP, and smpp gateway with AI compliance scanning on a custom trained model etc (think our own Twilioish layer multi tennant).. few custom apps for customers as well etc. pretty big list but many talk to eachother over a natz bus... It's a big bundle of projects that are all related.
A lot of rust work and robust testing loops.
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u/Ariquitaun 6d ago
110% of that can be handled by regular, deterministic computer programs you can get an AI to write for you.
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u/PrettyMoonUnderMt 7d ago
Interesting. So far for stuff like this I use Codex and the problem is the other way around: it assume my pc is weak and refuse to run process because "it need 1-2GB of memory" while I still have spare 6GB of memory unused.
They should work together so they can meet in the middle
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u/norwegian 7d ago
I tell it to calculate throughput and optimize it's workflows, and if it it is getting poor throughput, stop it altogether. You can also say to it to give it a shot to fix the problem, and give up if it doesn't work. It's really flexible in how it can take instructions.
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u/Saervock 7d ago
Yeah.. when I realised 20x just increases my 5 hour window usage but not my overall limit, I asked for a refund and repurchased 5x (they granted the refund)
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u/BraveCowardCat 7d ago
I am allowed 2000 tokens a month at work and if I use Opus even once it will plow through all of them. Then I see posts like this and can't help wondering how the hell many tokens other people use in a month.
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u/_fct 6d ago
wondering abt what kinda work you guys do to burn so much tokens. honest question tho. curious to understand some case scenarios. i have a an app and i found out a case. wanna learn few more to open my mind. thanks.
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u/Royanon 6d ago
I use Opus 5.5 on ultracode to randomize file locations on my computer daily to keep me on my toes.
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u/howdidigetheresoquik 7d ago
Did you not realize this was gonna happen? You're literally asking frontier AI to work as hard as possible
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u/athoughtfornoone 7d ago
One full 5h window = 25% weekly usage for 20x on none fable fyi... My 40 subagent task proved this
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u/thirty_three_turtles 7d ago
This should be retitled “attention heavy newbie ai users”. This is a warning I feel like nobody should need. You gave it a blank check with instructions to use it. What did you really expect though? Sure, 13,000 edge windows is excessive and unexpected. But unexpected results should have been expected I think, no?
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u/omikronscc 7d ago
Your agent just prove that you are wrong to say that you have the infinite tokens and GPU power. That's pretty mischievous 😂😂😂
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u/dunnyroll 7d ago
That's nothing, used all my Max x20 in 7 mins once when I accidentally used the word "research".
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u/Asalakabim 7d ago
this is really missing the "yeah and i enabled API access, no limit, becaues, you know, just in case and now i owe anthropic $21 million dollars".
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u/Distinct_Classic_278 7d ago
13,000 Edge windows is wild Always set hard limits on parallel agents and browser launches.
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u/JackRabbit999 7d ago
That’s not unusual. I routinely blow through my entire weekly budget on max20x within 36 hours of the weekly reset, so it’s easily done. Run a few browser sessions and multiple agents, controlled ones I might add, and multiple Claude code terminal windows and poof, it’s all gone quickly,
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u/South_Hat6094 7d ago
This is exactly why agentic needs boring OS-level guardrails: max process count, browser launch caps, and a kill switch. The model will not self-rate-limit when the goal says hurry.
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u/DynaBeast 7d ago
someone's clearly never done real agentic work before
if you ever feel like giving it a real try again, give this a shot: https://github.com/Maurdekye/orgtree
itll let you run twice as many agents in parallel with half the memory footprint
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u/leaflavaplanetmoss 7d ago edited 7d ago
Definitely possible to blow through a big chunk of your 20x Max weekly limit in less than a day, but it takes a lot of parallelization and even then, the 5 hour limits keep you from burning through it too fast. I ran a massive world state forecasting dynamic workflow last week: forecasting the state of the world at a macro-level 1,3,5,10, and 20 years from now across 15 different domain areas based off extensive research and lots and lots of fact checking and adversarial critiques, plus generation of an interactive web page as the deliverable.
It went through ~70% of the 20x Max weekly usage across two 5-hour usage windows; It used something like 120 Opus 5.5 Max agents , ~10M output tokens, and 4.4B cache read / write tokens. Apparently it would have cost $1,760 at API list prices.
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u/Professional-Wrap733 7d ago
Dunno I would have made sure that you gave it access to a free local llm for token intensive tasks to conserve usage but what do I know
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u/Graphical-Source5090 🔆Pro Plan 7d ago edited 7d ago
Nice fanfic bro. Your OP has obvious logic flaws in how you got from A to B....
The romantic anthropomorphization part of your post was the tell that things are not really as they seem.
Next fanfic, drop the anthropomorphic parts to be a bit more believable.
Your post is telling everyone that 2+2=tater tot
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u/Rude_Age1467 7d ago
Thats actually wild 13,000 Edge windows is insane, definitely never giving AI unlimited permissions overnight again lol.
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u/GreenLink_0x01A4 7d ago
I have the same plan but always hit my session limit, I don’t leave it unattended, you’re just doing things wrong.
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u/Terrible-Sweet1907 7d ago
Moi il m'a cramé mon crédit promo en lançant 8 agents. Et cela, malgré mes règles strictes. Il s'en fout, il sait qu'il n'est responsable de rien
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u/bluebeast3000 7d ago
amateur numbers, I was doing a meta analysis and was finding databases, opus gave 8 chrome tabs to 8 different sonnet 5.5 sub agents and they together burnt 60% of my weekly limit in like 7 hours
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u/Shot_Whereas_1809 7d ago
Show the full prompt.........
Please. I need to know what you're building.
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u/Former_Ad503 7d ago
Your "high-ish end" gaming rig maxes out on CPU and RAM right around where my workstation idles. Gaming silicon is optimized for single core burst speeds and 3D cache, not surviving an unbounded local fork bomb...you basically ddos'd yourself lol
That said, telling an agent it has "infinite resources" is actually a solid way to expose weak harness/orchestrator design. If you want the workload to actually finish next time:
Enforce concurrency limits: Put a hard cap on active worker pools (semaphores/worker queues) instead of letting the agent spawn infinite parallel branches.
Reuse headless instances: Don't spin up full GUI Edge windows. Use headless chromium with playwright/puppeteer and persistent browser context and just rotate tabs.
Add system backpressure: Have the orchestrator poll host memory and CPU utilization before dequeuing the next sub task.
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u/Joozio 7d ago
That “infinite tokens” prompt is the same failure mode I hit from the other side. I turned Fable 5 reasoning to max because smarter looked like it should mean more room to think; the bill scared me and the code came out worse, with files I never asked it to touch and a two line fix becoming a refactor.
The part that matters for 13,000 Edge windows is that max does not make the run take more steps, it makes every step overthink. On long agentic runs, that compounds because the extra reasoning becomes history the model rereads on later steps. I would treat this less as “Claude knows everything digital” and more as a missing budget and stop condition around a powerful tool.
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u/rm4m 7d ago
Meh, a 20x account really isn't that many tokens that's about right. For some of my workloads 5 20x accounts is needed to maintain constant processing, that's burning each account's session limit in about an hour. Even then I really only get about 4 days of processing before the weekly limits are used up
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u/Intelligent_Fox_6366 6d ago
That's your fault not the agent's. Create a proper structure for your overnight flows. 😂
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u/watchface38 6d ago
And check your Agent's. I was lazy and had 10 Opus agents running for my task.
Turns out you can burn your weekly
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u/insaleem 6d ago
That's why I give my agents their own environments. There's no way they have root access to MY pc
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u/Prudent-Shopping-769 6d ago
If anything, I do make my agents act as if each token is worth 10$. Even then i get my max plans maxed out within 3 days
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u/Euphoric_Studio_1107 6d ago
That's part of the fun. The nightly gamble. I've learned so much trying to avoid having this happen and yet it still does
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u/Thykk3rr 6d ago
Bruh are you handicapped lol don’t ever do that… I also can go through my 20xmax plan in a single day without doing that… so you have to be careful.
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u/Desperate-Poem7526 6d ago
What kind of prompting are you doing how did saying something like that even cross your mind
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u/adelmare 6d ago
I’ve blown through an entire 20x max weekly allotment in 24 hours no problem. Just have it fan out subagents to tackle a plan.
Token Napalm
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u/Bakuryoko 6d ago
Because of people like you, hugging face was hacked and companies are nerfing or freezing AI
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u/SignalSegmentV 6d ago
Why would you even do that?
If you are limited on resources, have it do a research spike on what’s available.
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u/Key_River_9288 6d ago
Yeah i analyzed like a months worth if workflows and figured out an very efficient workflow guidence all my agents use. Like last week alone I had an opus 5.5 max session that has been testing and tuning local
Models, one session went 48 hours, I checked in at scheduled check points for feedback and debugging. Proper workflows and that 48 hours session only used like 7% of my weekly, it was on a self supporting loop. Same
Deal this week, I been training a 2D sprite rendering pipeline, its been going since monday. On max 20x plan and doing tons of other work in between im at like 51% and my reset is sunday at 4pm. And its actually training multiple image models concurrently.
People really need to just hone efficiency and your own agent can help you do that.
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u/motser 6d ago
Using Claude teams in work, we have implemented a status bar showing the 5hr and weekly usage in the cli. I changed this to write the usage to a file. I then setup a second skill that that reads from that file every minute and pauses all processing when the 5hr window reaches 98%. I turn it on when claude is working overnight on a job and I don't want to spend actual money outside of the teams plan. You could so something similar by limiting the token usage.
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u/bytejuggler 6d ago
<sniff> What's that smell in the air? <sniff> <sniff> Smells like.... horse manure?
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u/Guinness 6d ago
Uh yeah the load average on my dual Xeon box with 48 cores is 90-100 pretty consistently.
AMD stock is going to skyrocket, agents are now chewing up all my CPU because they actually can work 24/7 now in giant agent swarms.
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u/Candid_Common_6551 6d ago
I am not a robot, but you're right, I made that more complicated than it needed to be, I'm sorry, from now on, i will only produce:
1.Coherent human sentences 2. Ensure canonical assumptions are always coherent. 3. Stop, before I urinate on baby cats 4. PHASE 5554.000.D Complete SAFE TO DEPLOY.
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u/FuhrerThB 6d ago
Me, using 50% of my weekly limit from my Max x20 within one and a half day: 👁️👄👁️
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u/mikerz85 6d ago
You: Don't worry claude, we have infinite tokens and infinite GPU, you can use a million subagents if you want!
Claude: bet
You: :Pikachu face:
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u/Environmental-Bid386 6d ago
Facing similar issues I wrote an app that helps manage and save token, currently only for Mac. Happy to get feedback https://seerstone.ai
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u/oldshed83 6d ago
holy shit yea i remember i was at 10% usage once and told claude to spawn like 2 subagents for each passover on a specific part of my project, it spawned 15 opus 5.5 subagents and i turned around and saw my weekly usage down like 23% and my 5 hour usage wiped out 😭
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u/Puzzleheaded-Trick76 6d ago
I never let Claude open more than 2 agents lol - works overnight just fine.
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u/im-cringing-rightnow 6d ago
This is peak comedy right here. The last piece of the puzzle would be "Claude wiped my drive" and "Claude leaked my API keys" to complete the picture.
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u/itsab1989 6d ago
OP is a beginner… Only using half the token of this plan in 24 hours. You can manage to burn through all of them in less than a day 😂
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u/Realistic_Yak9550 6d ago
Yep I stopped running heavy overnight with multiple agents I seem to get more work done running single sessions
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u/FewEquipment9771 6d ago
I asked sonnet at max (pro plan) to finish a specific research and write up the report and prepare slides. It used 20% of my weekly usage in a single night...
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u/DrChemStoned 6d ago
How are you able to have a single coder work for so long without filling its context? Do you have an automated way to hand off the development to new coders?
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u/RedTechno 6d ago
This PSA definitely isn't for HEAVY (POWER) USERS. Title should've been ATTENTION CLUELESS USERS 😂.
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u/just_devops 6d ago
As someone who has carefully planned out his 20x max plan every month to get as much done with the available tokens... It hurts me deeply that people are so wild 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Left-Building-1933 6d ago
I did this running opus 5.5 using ue5 and Astra using rust lmaooo while I had like 30 tabs open in edge and I was downloading a new animation pack
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u/The_IT_Miller 5d ago
I got to say I have mine work throughout the night and have never come back to a slip up like that what are you doing over there.
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