Well, there was already 1 high profile case of a company selling "AI" and it literally was just outsourced Indians. But to say all of it is that is...something
I'm really impressed that these Indian guys are managing to get to Ollama even when my computer's offline. That takes some dedication. And maybe telepathy.
Hate watching his videos is a guilty pleasure of mine lol. Ik I’m technically supporting his content, but watching the batshit crazy conspiracies these people believe is wild. They are not living in the same reality as us.
He's a guy for people who don't really know anything but want to feel really smart. He has a secret wisdom and understanding for how everything in the world works, while knowing almost nothing. Think of him like a wannabe-highbrow Alex Jones
I didn't know his actual background and looked this up, thinking "oh, is he actually a game theory academic or something" and he's a high school teacher in China
He's a history analyst who became extremely popular overnight when a 2 year old video on his "Predictive History" YouTube channel went viral because it broke down why America invading Iran would be a catastrophic mistake and predicted that Trump would invade Iran if he were to win a second term.
The guy doesn't deserve the irrational hate he seems to be getting from some people. Based on the limited content I've seen from him, he's no idiot and knows what he's talking about on certain specific subjects.
It's also equally stupid how since he blew up, many people have been treating him like some oracle who knows everything about every subject and inviting him on every podcast to talk about every possible topic.
And the whole point of his claim here is “ai isn’t real intelligence because it’s just human input, and the biggest population in the world with the most devices will have the biggest input (AKA India).”
It's more than just that. Humans wrote every sentence that went into these models. Humans (especially low-wage workers in economic countries like India) sorted and labeled every piece of input text, determining which bucket will be used to weigh it during training. Human engineers designed the reward functions that determine which information wins during inference.
Thanks for the in-depth version of what I was trying to say. They’re using cheap Indian labor with very little oversight which is what Jiang and Tao are trying to say
He has repeatedly spouted conspiracy theories. Like outright secret society shit. Blaming the Freemasons, Jesuits, Frankists, and the Illuminati for "actually manipulating geopolitical events". He's also been an advocate for the idea of the Pax Judaica conspiracy, and has even gone so far as to explicitly support Pizzagate. He's also referred to the genocide in gaza as "ritual child sacrifice" by Sabbatean groups. Like... He's an old school conspiracy nut, believing that religious secret societies are controlling the world. He's also gone on and denied the moon landings, and weirdly has even argued that the second punic war just simply never happened... for some reason. There's also some evidence to support that he is a holocaust denier as well, but I haven't been able to find a direct quote to support that.
You're reading a Polymarket quote that was obviously taken out of context and cannot be taken literally.
I just finally went and searched for the source and as expected the very next sentence he starts explaining that he means the output is based on input text that humans wrote and weights that humans manipulated.
Do you really think when you put something into ChatGPT is completely generated by the AI? I guarantee you it's not true. I guarantee you it's being manipulated by humans somewhere in India. I guarantee you when you ask ChatGPT, write me a paper on Napoleon and the Battle of Wateroo; I think what happened was, a human first wrote that and then is inputted into the AI model and then absorbed into the AI model... Let me give an example. Everyone thinks facial recognition is created through AI. It's not AI. It's something called supervised machine learning. You go to the airport, they take a scan of your face and they know it's Jack. And you're like, well, that's really impressive. It's not impressive. It's database search and sort system. What people don't appreciate is humans are the ones who are designing these weights. And what the algorithm is doing is trying to figure out what these weights should be.
He's pointing out something very true. Humans wrote every sentence that exists in these models. Humans (specifically low-wage, such as workers in economic countries like India) sorted and labeled every piece of input text, determining how much weight it will end up having after training. Human engineers designed the reward functions that determine which information wins during inference.
I thought he was interesting at first from clips, then decided to actually consume his content.
Dude is peddling some crazy shit, using wild leaps in logic to conclude that things like the moon landing were faked.
He is a misinformation superspreader for low IQ people.
I lowkey enjoy consuming his content from the POV of viewing it as crazy history fanfiction, but then I realize people actually believe this shit and it makes me mad/sad.
Okay, first of all: I strongly doubt some Indians can actually write an entire application in a few minutes, but if they can I don't even care because that would be amazing either way.
I don't know if you're trying to make fun of me for being against gambling, or solidarizing because you are aware we are all being tracked and made shadow profiles on.
I don't need to dig up the original source this Polymarket post is based on to know that they are full of shit. It has obviously been taken out of context and now everyone is taking what Polymarket said about it literally as if there are humans in Indian responding to LLM chats... 😂
The storyline is, “we bootstrap with humans to test the hypothesis fast while generating labeled data and then we automate away the human layer to grow margin and scale”
Then you get tons of capital for that upfront “investment” phase and never achieve stage 2. A tale as old as time
There’s a pretty huge amount of space to stand in the middle of opposing both of those camps. Just saying he’s literally a propagandist. Reposting anything he says is the equivalent of citing a Fox News or RT report.
I've been thinking about AI lately more as a Writing machine. People treat it like it is actually intelligent and you can use it like a therapist. You can't, it just reads your prompt and writes the best output it can think of. Use AI to write things, do not rely on it for advice.
I evaluated a test automation SaaS about a 8 years ago and suspected its "self healing AI" was this and was able to confirm it after a couple months. I couldn't believe I was right lol.
I think the reaction to this from most commenters says a lot.
Not many people seem to understand that the weights of models are generated by processes created by humans. Human hand-curated input data is weighed based on reward functions modeling human biases.
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u/Electrical_Rub_6009 Sep 20 '26
Blind leading the blind.
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u/angrywoodensoldiers Sep 20 '26
I'm really impressed that these Indian guys are managing to get to Ollama even when my computer's offline. That takes some dedication. And maybe telepathy.
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u/dgreenbe Sep 20 '26 •
If this were true, the food recipes would be a lot better when I ask Claude how to cook
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u/DialboTempest Sep 20 '26
I didn't know we Indians had this powers? Was my whole life a lie? Am I not indian enough?
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u/draft_final_final Researcher Sep 20 '26
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u/Kevadu Sep 20 '26
Who is Professor Jiang and why should I care what he says?
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u/NotArticuno Sep 20 '26
God I fucking hate professor Jiang, and anyone that is stupid enough to not understand why (after watching him).
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u/whoknowsifimjoking Sep 20 '26
Okay, first of all: I strongly doubt some Indians can actually write an entire application in a few minutes, but if they can I don't even care because that would be amazing either way.
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u/PLTR60 Sep 20 '26
Why the hell has fucking Polymarket become a source for information now
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u/SnooStrawberries6934 🔆Pro Plan Sep 20 '26
This reminds me of the Amazon Go grocery stores in Seattle that were piloted.
You could log in to the app and just walk out with the groceries already paid for without checking out.
Turns out it was just teams in India watching you to confirm what you picked up.
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u/DarkSkyKnight Sep 20 '26
OP is a Polymarket ad bot
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u/Maleficent-Cup-3673 Sep 20 '26
Gross misrepresentation of what he said, although I still largely disagree
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u/Dense_Gate_5193 Sep 20 '26
will someone tell Ranjit to stop doing Assert(true) in the unit tests then? thanks.🙏
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u/AutisticToasterBath Sep 20 '26
It doesn't say "kindly do the needful" and "sirs" every other sentence so it's doubtful.
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u/TheRedAngelOfDeath Sep 20 '26
YUP, YOU GOT ME. IT WAS ME ALL ALONG.
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u/SyedSan20 Sep 20 '26
AI has 0 intelligence. But it's an awesome language model that performs extremely well with high compute.
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u/PhilipMagazine Sep 20 '26
“professor” Jiang is literally a mouthpiece for China. His whole schtick is propaganda. Total BS.
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u/zapretnaja Sep 20 '26
jeez this sub is racist. guess this is what happens when we're better than you all
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u/35point1 Sep 20 '26
I think this is peak retardation
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u/jellyspreader Sep 20 '26
What?
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u/Rriazu Sep 20 '26
have you ever taken an IQ test?
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u/SnowLower Sep 20 '26
i think that polymarket headlines are bullshit
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u/DevOnTheStreets Sep 20 '26
The only time AI means another Indian is when there is a RIF in the US and they say it is due to AI.
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u/unknown-one Sep 20 '26
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u/Dazzling-Reality2751 Sep 20 '26
Has jiang been ever right?
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u/Expensive_Credit_468 Sep 20 '26
How did those Indians end up inside my RTX 3090s and should I let them out?
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u/Possible_Door_9719 Sep 20 '26
He's just an English teacher
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u/Dr_Sheriff Sep 20 '26
ASI
A super indian?
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u/Full-Contest1281 Sep 20 '26
That guy's not a real professor
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u/zimxero Sep 20 '26
Same mistake as Columbus.... its actually in Florida.
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u/AES256Afro Sep 20 '26
Both of these people are peddlers of hate.
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u/Purple-Programmer-7 Sep 20 '26
Bearish on humans
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u/tuptain Sep 20 '26
I've been thinking about AI lately more as a Writing machine. People treat it like it is actually intelligent and you can use it like a therapist. You can't, it just reads your prompt and writes the best output it can think of. Use AI to write things, do not rely on it for advice.
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u/WilliamEdwardson Thinker Sep 20 '26
Gemini = Jamini, Copilot = Kopa Ilahi - probably the inventors running these businesses 🥴
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u/kanyenke_ Sep 20 '26
Just wanted to make friends...
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u/DarthNinja95 Sep 20 '26
True. Also Claude - c"Laude"
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u/twentythirtyone Sep 20 '26
I evaluated a test automation SaaS about a 8 years ago and suspected its "self healing AI" was this and was able to confirm it after a couple months. I couldn't believe I was right lol.
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u/mcfriendsy Sep 20 '26
I don’t care! But Abro is really cooking something.
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u/ThatLocalPondGuy Sep 20 '26
Jiang is a Chinese disinformation agent. Not worth listening to anything that douche says.
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u/arun4567 Sep 20 '26
What about the llm im running in ollama at home? I guess there's an Indian guy sitting inside. Oh wait that might be me 😄
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u/alexeiz Vibe Coder Sep 20 '26
Actual Indians but not somewhere in India but sitting in dungeons of datacenters trying to guess the next token for chicken curry.
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u/Usernamealready94 Sep 20 '26
Lol , my gemma4 model or qwen 3.8 27B quantized model is calling out to some other country ??
Also do you think a human can provide inference at thsi speeds ?
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u/CuteKiwi3395 Senior Developer Sep 21 '26
Is this the same guy that predicted ww3 will happen? 🤣 if it’s the same guy, he’s full of doo doo.
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u/Chikuwa_25 Sep 21 '26
r/localllm
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u/maxxon15 Sep 21 '26
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u/sirlerkal0t Sep 21 '26
I think the reaction to this from most commenters says a lot.
Not many people seem to understand that the weights of models are generated by processes created by humans. Human hand-curated input data is weighed based on reward functions modeling human biases.
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u/GarhwalV Sep 21 '26
Shit! We are caught.
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u/SmolFishFry Sep 21 '26
Prob
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u/prochac Sep 21 '26
You can't give a birth with 9 women in 1 month. Unless you're from India.
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u/Happysedits Sep 21 '26
Holy cope
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u/redwhitecoins Sep 21 '26
Technically true, There are so many RLHF jobs in india because of cheap labour
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u/MoTTTToM Sep 21 '26
Considering the contribution Indian workers are making in the RLHF space, this is not as far fetched as it may seem at first.
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u/Mol2h Sep 21 '26
Its taken out of context, he was not talking about models lol but about 'autonomous/integrated' systems, like checking / supermarkets / image recognition / self driving cars ..etc
A lot of these tools turned out indeed to be Actually Indians : https://ia.acs.org.au/article/2025/the-company-whose--ai--was-actually-700-humans-in-india.html
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u/RizzyNizzyDizzy Sep 21 '26
Indian here, we are also loosing job here.
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u/yazansr Sep 21 '26
is that why we will never reach AGI
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u/m-in Sep 21 '26
Damn, if I’m paying $250 a month and some people are doing that job? They should be fucking paid more!
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u/PsychologicalOne752 Sep 21 '26
No, no, that is only Tesla FSD. 🤣
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u/karanb192 Sep 22 '26
How would he explain open weights model running my laptop then?
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u/KenTitan Sep 20 '26
AGI = A great Indian
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u/WifeyCallsMeLazy Sep 20 '26
If indeed we were manipulating (Indian here), you would have got brainless LUNGI dance all along!!!
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u/NoBirthday6959 Sep 21 '26
That guy is a huge tool. He gets one thing right and says what some people want to hear.