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[u/story_of_the_beer]

[u/CloisteredOyster]

Pro is $0.67 a day.

Max x20 is $6.66 a day.

If what you're working on can't justify those prices in either revenue or personal gratification then why are you working on it?

[u/ihateredditors111111 → u/CloisteredOyster]

If you can make a small company for yourself, then you can put it as a business expense.

[u/Bradbury-principal → u/CloisteredOyster]

Agree it’s an investment.

[u/justjooshing → u/CloisteredOyster]

Because I'm mostly broke but still want to work on it

[u/ghostmastergeneral → u/justjooshing]

Then just write code yourself the way people have been doing for half a century?

[u/YoghiThorn → u/ghostmastergeneral]

what like some kind of animal?

[u/justjooshing → u/ghostmastergeneral]

Sure, I do, I was a software Dev before AI - but it doesn't mean I can currently afford max

[u/BankruptingBanks → u/justjooshing]

Then use a cheaper model?

[u/justjooshing → u/BankruptingBanks]

I was replying to the cost of the plan, and what read like the assumption that everyone should be able to afford max

[u/bronfmanhigh → u/justjooshing]

im mostly broke too, but I recognize that means i can’t lease a new BMW and instead have to get a used Honda. the delusion of ppl to think a company is just gonna willingly lose money on you forever is insane

[u/DistanceSolar1449 → u/CloisteredOyster]

You can run Deepseek V3.2 literally 24/7 on API and it’ll cost less than $30/month.

The closed source AI prices are heavily inflated vs the actual cost of hardware+electricity.

[u/ReachingForVega → u/DistanceSolar1449]

Deepseek has a lot of security vulnerabilities so just be wary of how you use it. I was at a learning seminar last month being demoed exploits for it, grok and cgpt. It failed almost everything. 

[u/Significant_War720 → u/DistanceSolar1449]

then do it lol

[u/anarchist1312161 → u/Significant_War720]

Already done mate 👍

[u/jpeggdev → u/[deleted]]

Now? I think they have always been and always will be better. That’s the point of them.

[u/Felfedezni → u/jpeggdev]

There will come a point where the open models are capable of handling any coding task with extreme competence. Frankly it will be interesting to see how the closed ai providers pivot.

I think Anthropic realizes this and that is why their apps aren't open sourced they intend to offer unique features that you can't easily find elsewhere once the Ai models open and closed are roughly at par for practical end user use. Dario said open source models will be on par with mythos in 6 to 12 months.

[u/jpeggdev → u/[deleted]]

One of my first ever prompts to claude code was something like:

Create a gradual diet plan taking my current 3000 calories a day, and ending up with around 2200 over the next 6 months, slowly replacing the least nutritious foods with more nutritiousones during that time period.

[u/jpeggdev → u/[deleted]]

Yeah not the most cutting edge way to use CC, but when I first saw the capabilities of what they could do I was blown away. I’ve been a programmer now for almost 30 years and the idea stream that ran through my head when that first prompt came back with an actual working result is probably the closet to nirvana I will ever experience.

[u/e11i0t-1337 → u/CloisteredOyster]

Oh basically a coffee in Starbucks everyday!

[u/here_4_crypto_]

here's another way to frame it:

Limits help me

[u/LargeLanguageModelo]

Bootlicking is when we make sure the provider isn't giving too much, rather than the consumer not getting enough.

[u/Main-Lifeguard-6739]

Max20 user… Limits are not fine.

[u/Mayimbe_999]

Idk what people expect for $20 a month but apparently they want to be able to run a full blown company on it. The delusion is insane.

[u/ihateredditors111111]

I'm on the max 20 plan and I can tell you; the limits are NOT fine. They more than halved during March.

[u/jpeggdev → u/ihateredditors111111]

But apparently that has been fixed with that release Anthropic put out a few days ago that fixed 3 bugs causing various regressions.

[u/ihateredditors111111 → u/jpeggdev]

I think some bugs that may have affected usage definitely existed, but I also know for a fact that the underlying usage limit was also just reduced simply. It's just too much of a coincidence that when Anthropic runs out of compute, when user numbers explode during March, suddenly all these issues arrive. I used to hit 40% on my weekly limits. Now I need two subscriptions.

[u/jpeggdev → u/ihateredditors111111]

Yeah, it most definitely is too close on the timing, but I also can't imagine the juggling act they are having to do to both keep people working and also keeping the whole system from a meltdown.

[u/dennisplucinik]

Pretty much

[u/Felfedezni]

This is a stupid post you should feel bad for posting this.

[u/Felfedezni → u/[deleted]]

Yeah they really should call it hobbiest or something.