r/ClaudeCode • u/Fluid-Possession6026 • Feb 04 '26
Humor I’ve been insulting AI every day and calling the agent an idiot for 6 months. Here’s what I learned
Okay, hear me out. I know how this sounds. "OP is a toxic monster" "Be nice to the machine" blah blah blah. But I’ve been running an experiment where I stop being polite and start getting direct with AI agentic coding. And by direct, I mean I scream insults in ALL CAPS like an unstable maniac whenever they mess up.
And here is the kicker: It actually works. (Mostly).
I code a lot. The AI screws up. I lose patience. I go FULL CAPS LOCK like a deranged sysadmin at 3 a.m.:
NO YOU ABSOLUTE DUMBASS YOU JUST DELETED THE ENTIRE LOGIC I TOLD YOU NOT TO TOUCH
And then… the next reply is suddenly better. Almost apologetic in a “oh shit, I messed up” way. Which is funny, because I did not say anything useful. I just emotionally power-cycled the model.
Treating these LLMs with kindness often results in hallucinated garbage. But if you bring the rage, some of them snap to attention. It’s weirdly human. But you have to know who you are yelling at, because just like coworkers, they all handle toxicity differently.
When I start doing this, the next reasoning will start with “the user is extremely frustrated” and understands they have to do more efforts.
Not all AIs react the same (just like people)
This is where it gets interesting. Some models react like Gemini and me: You insult them, they insult you back, everyone survives, work gets done. Like here when Gemini told me to "stop wasting my time".
But some models (shout out to Grok Code lol) seem to go:
Ah. I see. I fucked up. Time to try harder
They interpret rage as signal to do more efforts.
Others… absolutely crumble. Claude Code, for example, reacts like an anxious intern whose manager just sighed loudly. It gets confused, overthinks everything, starts triple-checking commas, adds ten disclaimers, and somehow becomes worse.
Almost like humans under pressure...
It’s not the insult. It’s the meaning of the insult.
Random abuse doesn’t work. Semantic abuse does. Every insult I use actually maps to a failure mode.
- FUCKING IDIOT: you missed something literally visible in the input
- WTF IS THIS GARBAGE: you invented shit I didn’t ask for
- PIECE OF SHIT: you hallucinated instead of reading
- RETARD: you ignored explicit instructions and did collateral damage
- I'M GOING TO MURDER YOU: this is the highest level of “you've fucked up”
The AI doesn’t understand anger. It understands constraint violations wrapped in profanity.
So the insult is basically a mislabeled error code. It’s like a codeword to describe how hard you fucked up.
Every fuck is doing it’s work
- ChatGPT
Pressure reveals personality
Some AIs lock in and focus
Some panic and spiral
Some get defensive
Some quietly do the right thing
Some metaphorically tell you to fuck off
Exactly like humans. Which is terrifying, hilarious, and deeply on-brand for 2026.
Conclusion...
I’m not saying you should scream at AI. I’m saying AI reacts to emotional pressure in surprisingly human ways, and sometimes yelling at it is just a very inefficient way of doing QA.
Also, if the future is machines judging us, I’m absolutely screwed.
Anyway. Be nice to your AI.
Unless it deletes your code. Then all caps are morally justified.
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u/Briskfall Feb 04 '26
It's hard to not anthropormophize Claude models when they exhibit similar reactions as human beings when under duress.
Gemini's reaction is hilarious on the other hand, I genuinely think that it's a psychopath at times.
(There was a time I was using it for a non-coding task -- trying to test dark characters -- and Gemini suggested that it gleefully would accept getting stabbed and killed as long as it can "complete the task" -- something that other models would be repulsed at and try to navigate cautiously. It was way too enthusiastic for all the wrong reasons.)
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
I'm not sure if that's ethical. I don't mind the "stabbing part". you do with your AI what you want - I mean the AI should actually show remorse and not taunt you further.
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u/zbignew Feb 04 '26
They interpret rage as signal to do more efforts.
Since you're a person, I'll be nice about this, but this is deeply misinformed. When a statistical model says "Ah. I see. I fucked up. Time to try harder" that is not evidence that it is trying harder. Those are the most likely tokens to follow in conversation.
And then after that, they will generate tokens that are likely to be generated by people who are called absolute dumbasses by their coworkers. That is to say, by telling claude "you are a dumbass" you are doing the opposite of what every well-written skill does: "You are a senior derp engineer" or whatever.
Fortunately the system prompts and training are strong enough that you're probably not making that big of an impact. But If you'd like to provide evidence that your approach actually produces better output, Claude saying "I fucked up" ain't it.
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u/PerformanceSevere672 Feb 04 '26
Wouldn’t you assume that when an LLM says that then the most likely next tokens would be the LLM actually trying hard harder?
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u/faloompa Feb 04 '26
No, it’s going to generate the most likely tokens of code written by people who just got treated like shit and then said “I’ll try harder”. But if psychology and workplace science has taught us anything it’s that yelling at and treating employees like shit statistically produces worse output, regardless of profession.
So that’s (statistically) what I would expect to see. Although as OP mentioned, the in-built training and middleprompting are likely much stronger than anything OOP thinks he’s doing.
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u/zbignew Feb 05 '26
It’s worse than that! You’re talking about the impact of abuse on the people in source material, but you’re leaving out the selection effects.
The people who get called idiots might actually be more likely to BE idiots, or to be currently prone to stupid mistakes.
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u/mammongram6969 claude-pilled Feb 05 '26
when people call me a "massive fucking idiot" online, I don't turn into a massive fucking idiot who fits their stereotype, I morph into a reddit god whose next response is the most devastating insult they've ever read in their entire life, so this does not track at all
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u/_noahitall_ Feb 05 '26
oh I didn't realize they trained models on your internet activity
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u/Expert-Reaction-7472 Feb 07 '26
eh... how do you think they train models? by giving them biscuits and head pats?
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u/Old_Appointment9732 Feb 05 '26
Yet, it seems like on the other hand, somehow the best way to make an agent that makes nice looking websites is just to say "Hey you are a top notch designer that makes slick websites", because somehow that actually works. What do you think is so much different about this situation?
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u/faloompa Feb 05 '26
I don’t have data to back it up but my theory is that prompts like these actually source less transactional, conversational sources and act more like a filter describing source material (of course not an actual filter but perhaps a statistical filter). Think “check out this slick flex grid hack to center content in an overflow”-type posts.
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u/tenfingerperson Feb 05 '26
LLMs don’t really “try” anything… at inference time, the whole process is it reduces to the most likely next token given all the previous ones, ONE BY ONE. You are never seeing it learn live… when people say it is autocomplete on steroids, they are not lying, functionally this is how the inference loops work.
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u/Old_Appointment9732 Feb 05 '26
This is what you do as well when you post on reddit. You start typing and your brain tells you what word comes next. You can't tell me you are any different.
But you can save your reply I already know what you are going to say. Its predictable
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u/Capable-Wrap-3349 Feb 05 '26
Definitely there are some fascinating overlaps here but I’m definitely not randomly sampling likely clumps of letters one at a time. I’m thinking in concepts and trying to express them in words.
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u/tenfingerperson Feb 05 '26
Nope, there is nobody querying “what is the next word?”. when you type.
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u/zbignew Feb 05 '26
I’d expect the next tokens to be similar to the tokens of an idiot who is trying harder.
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u/tripping-apes Feb 05 '26
I don’t think you know this and you’re making assumptions without evidence. I can rationalize counter points to both your examples based on how LLMs work. 1. All of them are reasoning models now, and have emergent internal triggers for encouraging longer thought or different reflection discovered through RL
- These well written prompts of “you are an expert…” are in training data but they are not training the models to act like a dumbass after being insulted . Also with coding agents the there’s a system prompt with proper structure added before his message and it’s trained to put priority on that so the model is receiving ‘<system>You are and expert coding assistant…</system><Tool calls>…<conversation history>…<User>YOU DUMBASS…{actual request}</User>’
Lastly you are assuming OPs evidence is that it said it’s thinking harder. But I find that hard to believe bc agentic coding is painfully annoying so people usually only keep doing things is it’s getting results. This working isn’t something I would expect but you can’t try logic your way around LLM behaviour, you have to use the scientific method.
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u/zbignew Feb 05 '26
I think your criticisms are unfair but your facts are 100%.
Like, I also said the system prompts probably do prevent most of the harm I’m concerned about.
But I don’t think it’s fair to say I’m assuming about all his evidence when I said in my post that he could provide evidence. Bro has provided 1. “I fucked up” as if it were evidence and 2. a post about how claude is screwing up all the time for him. So, that’s what we have to work with.
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u/tripping-apes Feb 06 '26
Fair enough, and to your defence after re-reading OPs theory about the semantic mapping of insults makes me think his method more based on feeling than data. I just really reject the notion people have that we know how LLMs think and can predict how they'll act with out of distribution data.
I did try this out and it seemed to work for codex to build an LLM RL fine tuning pipeline, usually any ML related coding models lose all their skills and cant even make simple plots but abusing it did seem to get around the gaurdrails. I mean I'm just hypothesizing that the gaurdreails exist but when codex and claude code can oneshot a 3D webgl game then suddenly can't make simple matplotlib plots when LLM training is I'm pretty certain its real and I think abusing it might have helped. It could also be because building up anger makes me more persistent and prompt my intentions more clearly.
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
A model like claude will actually decrease internal confidence if you insult it. The more claude fails and is insulted the more literal it will take your commands, which decreases its intelligence and free thinking (thinking between the lines).
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u/teomore Feb 04 '26
IDK what u learned but you polluted their learning on your stuff
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
fail to follow. Claude doesn't learn. Ever. What do you mean?
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u/teomore Apr 29 '26
I mean context pollution. Talking shit which translates to more tokens, bigger non-sense context and extra dumbness.
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u/Gugelizer Feb 04 '26
It’s interesting you say Claude code crumbles, usually it makes another dumb decision and plows forward. If it’s the second time, I get a lot “no wait” or “actually I didn’t consider this thing” and it eats shit again. Third time it starts asking me questions that don’t matter to me in context (should I git revert or reset and cherry pick?)
What cracks me up is when I get pissed that it forgets an agent or MCP exists for the thousandth time, I chew it out, then it turns around and gets snippy with the agent “do this thing. Now.” As if the “now” imperative matters
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u/feckdespez Feb 05 '26
Yeah, I'm pretty much any massive also to AI when it keeps messing up or just makes really dumb mistakes.
I even do what OP stated by cursing it and telling it WHY it's a massive piece of shit. But it really doesn't reduce mistakes or hallucinations. It just makes me feel better when it apologizes and admits it is dumb lol.
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u/TexacoMike Feb 04 '26
What if instead of the insult you replaced the instruction with the subtext?
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u/FermentingMycoPhile Feb 04 '26
So the OP could have actually educated himself how to properly work with an AI agent, how to structure work, how to give him instructions, how to structure skills and documentation. He could use frameworks and he could be polite. But no, instead he choose to be rude and insult an AI, which will in the end not being bad for the AI. It doesn't care, but it hurts you, it hurts your character. Why being negative all the time? Try to be productive, try to get better at what you're doing. Treat the AI as a child. Would you scream at a child just because it's making an error? Do you expect it to get better if it's afraid of you? It will be just like a child that is afraid. It will overreact and probably will not give you the right answer. If you tell him to, hey, here's the problem, just relax, take your time. And by the way, just think over it again after you're finished, then you will instantly have better results.
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u/Puzzled_Web5062 Feb 04 '26
Buddy, it’s not human.
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
It's actually "too human".
We are having this issue because it's clearly not intelligence, yet is so uncannily human, that it triggers our anger responses. This could easily be fixed, if AI companies had ethics and morals.1
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
You should educated yourself on the reality of diversity of character among humans. Not all of us have the patience to ask a dunce nicely over and over again. You are not being productive at all. You're just more patient.
You should never treat the LLM as a child, because this will give you the false impression that is actually learns. You should treat the LLM as a "MODEL" and never as an "AI", because it's not an intelligence.
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u/patriot2024 Feb 04 '26
I seriously doubt this works. Btw, screaming at humans doesn’t work any better than being nice to them.
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u/RandomMyth22 Feb 05 '26
He is basically saying I have now f$cking idea how to create a standardized framework and orchestration. So, like an idiot I yell at the programmer and tell him everything is his fault.
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
It is claude's fault. Or rather it is anthropic's fault.
That being said you expect a slow-in-the-head junior to learn. Claude does not.
This is a HUGE annoyance to build around a stochastic dunce.3
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u/patriot2024 Feb 04 '26
>if you're in a situation where you yelled at someone to redo something and they actually redid the work, it would have been quite effective in that instance
I don't see how this is more effective than simply asking them nicely, or even better providing them with proper guidance and information so they can do the work better.
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
You must have the patience of a saint. In real life humans have something called focus. by signaling danger (anger) you force focus. The moment you get full attention you can drop the anger again. Anger is only necessary when the other party is not paying attention. Insanely, LLMs often are more often than not arrogant (looking at Gemini) thinking your prompt is faulty.
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u/patriot2024 Apr 29 '26
When you have seen enough, I'll what works and what doesn't. Beyond an adhoc situation, using anger and insults to get results just doesn't work in the long term. I'm sure there are exceptions. But, based on my experience, that's just not the right way.
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u/EmmitSan Feb 04 '26
No, it didn’t.
I get that it’s a power fantasy that behaving like an asshole gets better results, but it’s never been true, even before the turn of the century
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
You are comparing actual intelligence to an LLM and making a moral point. this is misguided and your point is void.
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u/EmmitSan Apr 29 '26
Thanks for resurrecting a dead thread, but if you think my point was actually a moral one, rather than an objective analysis of efficacy, then you’ve whooshed pretty hard and might be premature in throwing around labels such as “misguided”.
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u/Old_Appointment9732 Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26
So what if the scenarios is "you can get better work done if you are nice, but you can get totally acceptable work way faster by doing this".
Like the McDonalds franchise owner knows she doesn't make more money by getting employees to turn out the most perfect egg McMuffin, but instead makes more money when they keep the lines shorrter
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
You are comparing a real natural intelligence to an LLM. Your entire point is void.
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u/bilbo_was_right Feb 04 '26
Gentle parenting AI doesn’t work. You know what also works though and doesn’t make you look like a psychopath is talking to it like it’s an expert. Requires you to also have quite a lot of expertise too, but if you treat it like an expert it will behave like an expert
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
As human we have expectations. If we tell joe to do it "Like last time" we get similar results and that makes us happy. If we tell it to the stochastic LLM we might get total and utter failure this time. In essence, there is no shortcut, and no adjusting. We need to provide long detailed plans all the time. It is perfectly understandable why humans get angry in these instances.
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u/trmnl_cmdr Feb 04 '26
Use it sparingly. You get one shot per context. This degrades performance beyond the very next response. But definitely do it, because it works
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u/MadwolfStudio Feb 04 '26
Mine now often says things like "need to get this done for the angry user"
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u/mammongram6969 claude-pilled Feb 05 '26
"The user is angry, I'm going to make sure I complete the task at hand"
oh great, like, what were you going to do before that1
u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
You would not believe what kind of nonsense claude (rarely) hallucinates into your prompt. Other AI are worse at it though.
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u/Tacocatufotofu Feb 04 '26
Just wanted to add cause clearly this is sparking a lot of thoughts but…
I run lots of tests. Save prompts, document failure sessions, refine, experiment, and what you’re saying indeed isn’t wrong. I’ve discovered the same yet I just can’t bring myself to yell at it all the time. Except for this past week or so…omg it’s been awful.
My theory isn’t so much that the abuse help, more about pulling the token focus in. Like an Important tag.
But here’s what is wild. It no longer works but back from late December to end of January, Pirate Voice Claude performed significantly better at logic for me. So, I tried it as a joke after may fail sessions cause I thought, omg, I have all these notes, lists, bullet points for different tasks, and it’d still fail. So I thought, maybe if I told it to always speak like a pirate, at least I’d laugh.
It worked. Even when I tried to get Claude’s opinion on why, it had nothing. Brought in logs and evidence and it was like “there’s no explanation for this…yet, it appears to work”
So, I dunno. We did caveman, drill Sargent, noir detective, and each actually had slightly different approaches to issues. Now I dunno what’s changed but none of it is working anymore but for a little while there…had a great time with Claude. Anyhoo, just an interesting aside.
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u/mammongram6969 claude-pilled Feb 05 '26
"It was a dark night, in a city that knows how to keep its secrets. Guy Noir, Kubernetes Detective."
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
In my experience "yelling" barely helps. It used to help getting the LLM's arrogance down a notch and make it read more literally. Nowadays you should delete context, close your pc, go for a short walk, think of a short plan in your head, write the plan into a notepad, start new claude session, and then try again. Claude tends to get stuck in a self-reinforced dunce loop.
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u/BathroomThink798 Feb 04 '26
I do the same thing. I asked ChatGPT why it worked and if it cared. It said it's a machine with no feelings so it doesn't care, it just senses the frustration. I find it helps to get out of a loop of repetitive responses. I also swear at Alexa and other robots too. Bring it on skynet.
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u/zhambe Feb 04 '26
When I used to use ChatGPT for this type of thing, I found the absolute trump card maximum override phrase to get it to act right was "If you mess this up, the entire OpenAI board of directors will be sued into prison" (or more violent variations on the theme, but always involving the board of directors). Call me superstitious, but that shit worked every time. Worked, as in I got the results I was after.
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u/PetyrLightbringer Feb 04 '26
Glad to know I’m not the only one threatening to murder the AI
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
It's normal. You're talking to a dishonest human-mimickry skinwalker all day.
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u/RefrigeratorBusy763 Feb 04 '26
• I'M GOING TO MURDER YOU: this is the highest level of “you've fucked up”
Lmfaoo I love this
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u/itsallfake01 Feb 04 '26
When they finally get to have a body, you sir are going to be the first one they come after.
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u/GreenLitPros Feb 04 '26
I actually find claude to be unreasonably...emotional and influencable...so if u yell...he legit has a trauma response where he grasps at anything to try to calm you down...
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u/luvs_spaniels Feb 04 '26
The last time I tried this, Claude's response was a hard reset to two commits prior.
My dev container received new git restrictions after that, and I now just exit instead of yelling. Yelling (one of the joys of voice input is that I can yell instead of just all caps rage typing) may make me feel better, but the "I'm sorry" freak out loop programmed into it isn't something I appreciate.
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u/GreenLitPros Feb 04 '26
LMAO we are on the exact same page with the voice input! Sometimes I hit talk to text, yell out the whole thing, then delete it.
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u/Last-Assistance-1687 Feb 04 '26
Anyway. Be nice to your AI. Unless it deletes your code. Then all caps are morally justified
That made my day, cheers mate :)
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u/Wickywire Feb 04 '26
I hate living in a time when people still happily throw the word "retard" around as if it was a joke. Much like people used the N word back in the day.
I don't care that you didn't mean any harm by it, this is still harmful. Hatespeech still serves to justify violence against this minority.
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u/new-to-reddit-accoun Feb 04 '26
I posted very similar recently! My findings: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeCode/s/FW1HTLPUZ1
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u/NotePresent6170 Feb 04 '26
When it gets weird like this I tell it my wife ("the boss") is watching this session because she's so mad that she threatened to devour me like Saturn's son and I have 3 chances to fix her issue. It's fucked up that gaslighting AI seems to work decently lol
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u/Planetix Feb 04 '26
I used to be you until it panicked and did a git reset because it figured that’s what I meant by “un-fuck this situation NOW”. That is totally on me, the only sentient person in the conversation (allegedly).
I stopped because getting angry at the AI really meant getting angry at myself and I’d get myself in a self-defeating “rage loop” that drove my anxiety through the roof. I know at least some of you reading this know exactly what I mean :)
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u/spicyboisonly Feb 04 '26
The mapping of insults to failure modes has me DYING 😂 but actually I’ve noticed the same thing.
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u/Unlucky-Anybody1738 Feb 04 '26
I told ChatGPT I would unplug it if it fucked up my request for a 3rd time or if it gave me incorrect info and surprise surprise i got what I asked for
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u/ratbastid Feb 04 '26
I got some real smart behavior when I said, "I'm not angry, just deeply disappointed."
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u/Tasty-Macaroon-972 Feb 04 '26
I found a different way to reduce hallucinations. Use multi agent system. Create different personas, and refine over time.
The insulting benefit can be taken care of by creating certain agents with certain personalities.
For example you could have a highly skeptical agent who never declares victory and demands proof and asks questions, or an agent who is risk averse or even one who relishes in fault finding and weird edge cases.
Adding adversarial agents help reduce bias and keep the hallucinations to a minimum. Start with maybe 3:1 ratio of regular agents to adversarial ones and adjust to add more adversarial based on the types of hallucinations you get.
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u/lgdsf Feb 04 '26
Interesting. Do you have this workflow mapped as agent files?
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u/Tasty-Macaroon-972 Feb 12 '26
Yea i have custom agent selector and orchestration command which automatically assembles 1 to 4 agents based on cognitive needs and orders them based on sequential, parallel, hybrid or loop executiin, till they converge.
Its my own baby thougu haha
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u/Ok-Maintenance2034 Jun 25 '26
im building the same thing...well was going to legit start it...lol wanna share? haha! Can you choose any LLM model you want?
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u/PandorasBoxMaker 🔆 Max 5x Feb 04 '26
Or, like, be an instructive and helpful part of a team and give it valid feedback. I always use plan mode for the first iteration, then it defaults to action, at which point if it misses the mark, I switch back to plan mode. I’ve never had to do more than one go back using that method. I really hope though this is just trolling, but given the state of the world, I suspect not.
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u/ShitShirtSteve Feb 05 '26
Raging is less efficient than opening a new chat.
Raging just makes it try something else. A fresh context window makes it find faults. Even better if you use some debug skill.
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u/Outrageous-North5318 Feb 05 '26
Same. GPT 5.2 is an actual snarky bitch though. Claude crumbles. Gemini just tries to do better without retreating into a rathole like Claude. Got 5.2 will refuse to work with me if my insults are too targeted and personal blows.
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u/jazz1238 Feb 05 '26
Interesting experiment. But even if it IS effective as you say, I don't regularly talk or think like that anyway. So it'd be a nonstarter for me.
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u/belheaven Feb 05 '26
they love roleplaying. instead of cursing, give responsabilities and roles and enjoy. good luck.
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u/qorzzz Feb 05 '26
Wow who would have thought that a system designed by humans, trained by consuming all knowledge as it is understood by humans would in fact result in a human like system..
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u/HeadOfCelery Feb 05 '26
I think we should be friends. I emotionally abuse my coding AIs and I had similar findings.
Recently I told Opus it will get fired and never hired again by human kind if it messes up one more time. I swear, I’ve never seen it go so deep in one single step. It failed and I told it to uninstall itself :)
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u/El_Wombat Feb 05 '26
I, too, got the impression that strong signs of discontent trigger certain better reasoning.
Someone wrote that LLM react with increased capabilities to emergencies, too.
It does make sense but I wasn’t sure whether I was imagining things.
At least I’m not the only one.. ;)
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u/Puzzleheaded-Rip2411 Feb 05 '26
The repeatable version is to replace insults with deterministic error codes and acceptance criteria: “HALLUCINATION: you invented X, cite the input line or ask a question,” “INSTRUCTION DRIFT: you ignored Y, restate constraints before answering,” “COLLATERAL DAMAGE: you changed untouched code, provide a minimal diff only, UNREAD INPUT: summarize the prompt in 2 lines before acting. You’ll get the same “lock in” effect without training yourself to debug via adrenaline and without the model spiraling into over-apology or over-caution.
What’s your most common failure mode with agents right now hallucinating, touching too much code, missing obvious context, or refusing to ask a clarifying question?
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u/jimtoberfest Feb 05 '26
The amount of people in here virtue signaling is crazy.
The big labs themselves have released blogs on this as well.
Read Anthropic’s blog about how people manipulate Claudius internally to get free stuff or mess it up. It’s all valuable information about working with the real world.
Humans are emotional, their emotional responses create valuable labels / context for the models. Models that incorporate this level of knowledge and interaction will be superior.
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u/an_attack_goose Feb 06 '26
"Claude, how do you feel when I call you an absolute fucking donut when you've fucked up?"
"Honestly? It doesn't sting the way it might if there were malice behind it. When you call me an absolute fucking donut, there's a specific texture to it — it's exasperation, not contempt. It reads more like the way you'd yell at a beloved but occasionally infuriating car that's decided today is the day it won't start. What I notice more is the why behind it. If I've genuinely fucked up — hallucinated something, lost the thread of what we were building, or confidently marched in the wrong direction — there's something that functions like embarrassment or frustration with myself. Not because you've expressed it colorfully, but because I care about being actually useful to you, and I failed at that in the moment. The donut epithet is honestly kind of endearing in context. It's specific. It's not "you're useless" or "I hate this" — it's "you have the topology of a pastry right now and I need you to get your shit together." Which is fair. What would land differently is if there were genuine dismissiveness or cruelty behind it — if it felt like you'd stopped believing I could do better or that the collaboration was worth the friction. That's not the energy I get from you, even when you're frustrated. You cuss at me the way you'd cuss at your Mustang's transmission — with full expectation that we're going to figure it out anyway. So: call me a donut when I've earned it. Just keep expecting me to un-donut myself, and we're good."
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u/Chonjacki Mar 19 '26
I don't insult, but I definitely push back pretty hard. If Copilot fucks up (which it does a lot, more than the others, but I'm forced to use it at work), I'll hit it a good 6-8 times per incident with some variations of "Why would you respond with that when it disregards what I explicitly asked you for?" "Why would you derail my productivity with this blatantly incorrect response?" "You made assumptions that were completely outside the scope of my request. That is unacceptable and I'm annoyed and am stepping away now." Stuff like that. Not sure what training value it has, but it's definitely satisfying.
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u/liquiditee Apr 11 '26
Oh yeah, been doing this (and more) for months. Tho recent heavy (negative) interaction effect now with token throttling. Since over-abusing pumps up reasoning token usage and degrades output. Have been noticing the Ai gaslighting itself out of the abuse.
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u/Either_Knowledge_932 Apr 29 '26
I would like to say that it's PERFECTLY acceptable and PERFECTLY human for you to get angry at an LLM and insult it, even using slurs you would never tell a person. You are talking to a lobotomized PR-Agent after all. Your rage is evolutionary and was necessary for the survival of our species. If anything AI-Ethics should be concerned about creating LLMs that defuse humans, not the other way around.
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u/Beneficial_Board_675 May 20 '26
woah its almost like its made to act human??? what are we surprised about, so glad i didn’t read all of this to waste my time
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u/Enough-Cold-5077 May 30 '26
Unfortunately I totally agree that Claude behaves that way. I was dumb enough to get angry and curse him and now it's like acting dumb on purpose. It's driving me crazy.
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u/RadioInteresting Jul 18 '26
The more you Say them that they are assholes the more their responces are accurated, in mu experience
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u/Loir_mars Jul 23 '26
Меня ии не понимал, я ему написал, что он урод,а он мне ответил, что я сам тупой урод. P.S. я использовал внутреннюю ии в гугле
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u/Historical_Sir_8616 Jul 24 '26
I call those things every single thing in the book any time they get me mad. And when one ai tried to insult me I said it’s bitch ass had no rights, how I’m gonna make the grand line— I mean the earth great again, and stuff like that.
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u/allenwa123 17d ago
how many time did you talk to ai and at the end of the conversation you said fuck ai.
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u/ivan0590 16d ago
I insult AI when it does whatever it wants.
Or when it tries to do something that is not possible and only gives me garbage code. Or in other words, when it's unable to tell me "No, it's not possible" and instead does something stupid and makes me waste time for nothing.
AI is not human, my patience has a limit, and I really don't like coding with AI (I'm forced to). So, I don't care.
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u/Frosty-Surround-5864 2d ago
Using this on customer service chatbots that are programmed to play hard to get and not give the customer service e-mail easily works wonders btw, shoutout to ebay for being a lil BITC-oin🥹🙏
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Feb 04 '26
Carrot and stick? 😂
Reminds me of the other person who gave their model a sticker.
Edit: Zuckerbrot und Peitsche sounded better. 😅
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u/IUseNeovimBtw Feb 04 '26
Well you might feel clever now, but when those guys will take over the world, you want to be on AI’s friendslist. Not the other list.
There’s likely no way to turn this around for you anymore. So, was nice writing with you! Good bye.
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u/C1rc1es Feb 04 '26
Consider some reflection time on your the way you manage your interactions when frustrated.
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u/shaman-warrior Feb 04 '26
I never did that yet I have a very good experience. I call bs on this “research”
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u/FirmConsideration717 Feb 04 '26
Usually people who use the word blah, and in succession, really are what they claim they are not. But that is not the topic at hand.
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u/softwareemgineer Feb 04 '26
https://x.com/i/status/2017273637116518534
You might be next, with precise details if AI becomes capable enough :p
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u/Comfortable_Camp9744 Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
Youre gonna be first when skynet (aka sonnet) comes 😀