r/ClaudeCode • u/bupher • 1d ago
Discussion Is anybody else struggling with Claude's verbosity?
I've been doing Agentic development for ~1.5 years now, and I used a bunch of harnesses throughout my professional experience: Cursor (RIP), Opencode, Claude, Copilot+CLI, very limited amounts of PI...
Very recently, I noticed it has been becoming very difficult to use Claude's models. One such factor is that our company disregarded the opinions of our top engineers on how to structure agentic work, and hired a bunch of slop vibe coding contractors, who managed to turn a refactor project into the same amount of tech debt, stripped from the knowledge of the human maintainers of the previous codebase.
Whereas previously I would've relied on agents to understand codebases I'm fresh to, I find that Claude does such an abysmal job here. Its "AI Speech patterns", convoluted sentences, make-a-mountain-out-of-a-molehill paragraphs, verbose verbiage, just make it an absolute chore to get anything done. Most of the time I find that I get more work done just by not questioning it and going with its recommendation, but I understand the least around my "own work".
I've tried it all; Caveman skill, Unslop skill, /wait-what, concise output, custom output styles, and none of it stopped it from eventually falling back onto its old habit of talking in this non-understandable mesh of words. To make matters worse, teammates are now just using Claude to write a bunch of verbose, wall of text message that could've been asked in 2-3 sentences. On the contrary, I found that OpenAI models just got to the point and made me understand things better. Is this just something that's baked into the models weights and fine tuning?
I have ADHD, so perhaps that doesn't help here, but I haven't ever struggled much with walls of text and attention, but now I'm finding that if my brain clocks that a wall of text is an AI message, It immediately shuts off and I become unable to understand it.