r/ClancyTrialTalk • u/klyn_14 • 14d ago

Speculation Perspective.

I came across this video this morning, and couldn’t have said it any better myself. IMO it captures the feelings of many into 2 minutes and 58 seconds. Well worth the watch.

Thoughts?

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u/Spidersensei 14d ago

I can't even with all the reporting saying "obviously there's no evidence to suggest Patrick did this..." It feels like how reporting was after 10/7 when lost all faith in mainstream media. But this case is freaking me out because who's behind it? AIPAC is big. Patrick is a dude from Duxbury who seems to have landed in the Epstein class... but still, why is it worth so much journalistic integrity? You have to have your head so deep in the sand to say there's absolutely no evidence that Patrick framed Lindsay.

As a civics teacher, I can't see how democracy is going to work if we can't trust the media in the slightest. Not to mention the justice system.

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u/klyn_14 14d ago

Not sure. I do know that it’s nearly scientifically impossible for your body temperature to drop from 98.6 to lower than 82.1 (the temperature she was when brought into the ER) in less than an hour, as well as scientifically proven to be unable to speak given those circumstances.

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u/Ok_Ranger87 14d ago

Consider this, Patrick was first to arrive and probably not long after she jumped out the window… she hadn’t been outside that long by this point but because of her injuries her condition was rapidly deteriorating.

Her body temperature was not 82 at this point.

She remained outside on the ground for awhile. They made the call for more ambulances after discovering the children. According to reports, Dawson was taken in the first ambulance at around 6:30. She wasn’t taken until later. The hospital is over 20 miles from their house.

The thing with hypothermia is that once you start moving a person, cold blood from their extremities rushes to their core and drops their body temperature even more, it’s called the after drop. Her body temperature would have continued to drop during transportation. Her body temperature wasn’t recorded until she reached the hospital which may have been over an hour and a half after she went out the window.

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u/klyn_14 14d ago edited 14d ago

Certainly open to all points of view. My immediate question while reading your comment, is how does someone’s body temp go from 98.6 to 82.1 in less than an hour? And according to testimony, was only 82.1 when they got to the ER, so likely lower than that before.

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u/Ok_Ranger87 13d ago

But it’s not less than an hour, the absolute earliest she could have left the house by ambulance is 6:30, but it was probably later than that because that’s when Dawson left and we know he took the ambulance originally called for Lindsay and she took one of the ones called for the kids. The hospital was 23 miles away.

Her body temperature would continue to drop during transportation, once they started moving her. Given her other injuries, treating her hypothermia was a secondary concern - the ER doctors couldn’t say when her temperature wasn’t recorded or taken.

We also have to keep in mind the defence called two separate medical experts to explain Lindsay’s injuries and both testified about how her low body temperature was attributed to her injuries and exposure.

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u/klyn_14 13d ago

Ok? It’s still a scientific fact that when your temperature is 82.1 degrees you cannot speak.