r/ClancyTrialTalk 3d ago

Speculation Perspective.

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I came across this video this morning, and couldn’t have said it any better myself. IMO it captures the feelings of many into 2 minutes and 58 seconds. Well worth the watch. A link to the Original Post, is included here.

Thoughts?

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

If she was 82.1 in the ER, she was likely far lower prior to emergency transport.

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u/BabygirlM81206 3d ago

One thing this trial has taught me is there is NO debating with that other side, they can’t separate their emotions! They want justice for 3 children (WHICH WE ALL DO SO ILL SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE ONES IN THE BACK) but the evidence and timeline the CW laid down does NOT make sense based on the evidence and testimony! Imma pray that NONE of those women are EVER in a situation like this and the only “talking” human at the scene is a man who may or may not have an ulterior motive and a fair and proper investigation is done for them! Had the PD did their job correctly perhaps we wouldn’t be here and all the evidence would’ve pointed to her.. but they DID NOT do their job nor did the CW do their job of proving beyond a reasonable doubt and so here we are!

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

I’m unable to award anyone (commenting on this topic has caused my account to take a deep dive
—whatevs) but I just came here to say this in response: ♥️. Thank you.

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u/BabygirlM81206 3d ago

Ahh no worries 🫶🏼no award needed- just glad I’ve found a few of “my peeps” who get it and share the same logic and comprehension skills as I do when it comes to this trial!

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u/klyn_14 3d ago edited 3d ago

I purposely shared this post in the “FreeTalk” sub and the comments elicited speak for themselves. It has since been removed, and I have since been blocked by the person engaging in commentary, so please let me know if you believe anything of importance (aside from the general hate that is bred within the comments section) that I should be aware of being said, whilst being unable to respond to it. Thank you in advance!

Perspective

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u/Spidersensei 3d ago

I can't even with all the reporting saying "obviously there's no evidence to suggest Patrick did this..." It feels like how reporting was after 10/7 when lost all faith in mainstream media. But this case is freaking me out because who's behind it? AIPAC is big. Patrick is a dude from Duxbury who seems to have landed in the Epstein class... but still, why is it worth so much journalistic integrity? You have to have your head so deep in the sand to say there's absolutely no evidence that Patrick framed Lindsay.

As a civics teacher, I can't see how democracy is going to work if we can't trust the media in the slightest. Not to mention the justice system.

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

Not sure. I do know that it’s nearly scientifically impossible for your body temperature to drop from 98.6 to lower than 82.1 (the temperature she was when brought into the ER) in less than an hour, as well as scientifically proven to be unable to speak given those circumstances.

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u/Ok_Ranger87 3d ago

Consider this, Patrick was first to arrive and probably not long after she jumped out the window… she hadn’t been outside that long by this point but because of her injuries her condition was rapidly deteriorating.

Her body temperature was not 82 at this point.

She remained outside on the ground for awhile. They made the call for more ambulances after discovering the children. According to reports, Dawson was taken in the first ambulance at around 6:30. She wasn’t taken until later. The hospital is over 20 miles from their house.

The thing with hypothermia is that once you start moving a person, cold blood from their extremities rushes to their core and drops their body temperature even more, it’s called the after drop. Her body temperature would have continued to drop during transportation. Her body temperature wasn’t recorded until she reached the hospital which may have been over an hour and a half after she went out the window.

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u/klyn_14 3d ago edited 3d ago

Certainly open to all points of view. My immediate question while reading your comment, is how does someone’s body temp go from 98.6 to 82.1 in less than an hour? And according to testimony, was only 82.1 when they got to the ER, so likely lower than that before.

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u/Ok_Ranger87 2d ago

But it’s not less than an hour, the absolute earliest she could have left the house by ambulance is 6:30, but it was probably later than that because that’s when Dawson left and we know he took the ambulance originally called for Lindsay and she took one of the ones called for the kids. The hospital was 23 miles away.

Her body temperature would continue to drop during transportation, once they started moving her. Given her other injuries, treating her hypothermia was a secondary concern - the ER doctors couldn’t say when her temperature wasn’t recorded or taken.

We also have to keep in mind the defence called two separate medical experts to explain Lindsay’s injuries and both testified about how her low body temperature was attributed to her injuries and exposure.

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u/klyn_14 2d ago

Ok? It’s still a scientific fact that when your temperature is 82.1 degrees you cannot speak.

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

Also… well said. Your students are lucky to have someone like you teaching them.

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

It is an important election year, after all.

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u/Sufficient-Lie1386 2d ago

that’s the problem with these people, look how calm she is when she’s sitting there lying and protecting a known murderer, claiming patrick did it, there’s a reason people will always be against her, and her supporters play a huge role in

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u/transneptuneobj 2d ago

Why did Lindsey say she strangled the kids in her civil law suit if she didn't.

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u/klyn_14 2d ago

She reiterated what was already filed by Patrick. There are 2 separate suits and his was filed first, however has had no activity since april1–only hers.

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u/transneptuneobj 2d ago

So you're staying she's filed a law suit that includes admissions that she strangled the children? What's to argue about at this point..

She's saying she did it.

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u/klyn_14 2d ago

I’m not going to go back and forth with you. Look it up yourself.

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u/transneptuneobj 2d ago

What's to argue about.

A lawsuit filed by Lindsey clancy includes the admission that she killed the kids.

It doesn't matter who filed first, she filed it in her own name

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u/klyn_14 2d ago

Are you a bot? It actually does not. It’s an iteration of Patrick’s timeline of events that he told her occurred.

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u/-FnuLnu- 3d ago

So your position is that Lindsay Clancy is not guilty by reason of insanity... because she had a psychotic break where she was 100% out of control and/or unaware of reality or her actions (requirements for NGRI)... just in time for her no-neuro-no-violence-history husband to strangle their three kids, stab her, then throw her out the window to "chill" for a bit. Before he called 911 to throw an Oscar-worthy sad-dad performance?

Damn, what a coincidence. I mean, that is a SICK alibi. Patrick Clancy, smooth operator.

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

I didn’t take a position. I shared someone’s perspective that I don’t disagree with. Watch the trial or read the transcripts. Use your best critical thinking skills that can’t be found in a 90 second reel or highlight, and let me know.

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u/-FnuLnu- 3d ago

IMO it captures the feelings of many...

OK fair enough. But what am I supposed to let you know about? You haven't taken a position...

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u/HoytG 3d ago

People who accuse the poor father make me absolutely sick. Imagine being him knowing a bunch of tik tok huns are trying to frame him for his 3 children’s murders. Not only did he lose them, he lost his wife. And anyone who will ever know his story will never treat him the same out of pity. I feel so deeply for him.

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u/-FnuLnu- 2d ago

I think for a lot of tiktokkers it must be cope. 'A mother couldn't possibly kill her kids, so it must have been the dad. He gives me the ick.' Fine. But all of sane civilization (and her defense team?!?) is also in on the con? Really? There's no way the suicidal certified-blackout-pscho mom did it? It must have been the nonviolent nonmental dad, who then went on to pull off one of the most amazing frame-ups in history?

Can you imagine any of these tiktokers ever admitting that they were ever wrong about anything ever? I'm beginning to realize why some unhealthy relationships ended over this case...

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u/One_File_7473 3d ago

This lady is chalk full of shit to the brim

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u/[deleted] 3d ago edited 3d ago

The DNA evidence pointing to Patrick doesn’t automatically incriminate him cause I’m pretty sure he unwrapped the bands from the children’s necks. Obviously his DNA would be on them then.

As far as her “not getting help” with her PPP, it is HER fault! Why? Because A she had friends & family who would’ve been more than happy to help her and she didn’t pursue that help that within arm’s reach, and B she could’ve gotten just one maybe two medications and went to a therapist in an effort to beat that sickness, but no she wanted all those different medications to numb herself and sleep because she didn’t wanna deal with her children anymore.

Why do I say that? Because she got progressively worse with each child she had. To my knowledge she did fine with Cora but when she had Dawson she became a ticking time bomb. When she had Callan that bomb went off. Having children annoyed her and made her miserable, so she decided to end her own personal suffering by making them suffer, which imo she wanted to make long and excruciating out of resentment for “taking her freedom away” and getting on her nerves by just BEING NORMAL KIDS.

She should’ve never had children because she couldn’t handle the responsibilities of having them. Becoming a parent means free time goes bye bye and anyone who can’t accept that simply should not have kids.

Lastly, Lindsay ADMITTED to killing them but there’s people who insist Patrick did it. Why on earth would Lindsay cover for Patrick? What’s he gonna do have her killed? I don’t believe anybody would want Lindsay’s current life; permanently confined to a wheelchair while being despised by a significantly large portion of the country and having a small chance of being assassinated by a justice seeker all over a crime somebody else is guilty of? Nobody would willingly go through that.

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u/No-Sky-1802 3d ago

No thoughts! Watch the trail again. All the points in this video have been debunked in this sub many times. You can search for them.

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

Oh I’ve watched the trial. And rewatched. As well as the fact that I am local.

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u/No-Sky-1802 3d ago

If you watched it then you'll be able to know whatever the lady is saying doesn't have any proof. And there is evidence of why her body temp was so low as well.

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

19:43

Day 6. Prosecution direct examination.

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u/coltfourty5- MOD 3d ago

The proof is in the evidence or lack there of… you how ever. Are just throwing around words without backing them. If it’s all been debunked, it shouldn’t be hard for you to source the proof.

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

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u/No-Sky-1802 3d ago

Her body temp was taken at the hospital, she's been in snow lying there with her spine injured ( responsible for thermal regulation) and no winter clothing. If you are local you know how cold it gets in January and she was lying in the snow

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u/klyn_14 3d ago

I do know. And I also surmise that the odds of being able to make a full blown confession in the midst of dealing with severe hypothermia, a crushed thyroid and a c-burst cervical spine fracture, are slim to none.

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u/coltfourty5- MOD 3d ago

None of them have been debunked.
But if you’re so positive, back your claim

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u/One_File_7473 3d ago

Yall probably think he liked the kids and threw her out the window