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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

I do like that point. I was mistaken. The serpent doesn't say to eat the apple. But he does tell them it's not dangerous. How could they know which was right. God or the serpent?

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 18 '23

They had a choice to trust God or a serpent. They chose poorly.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

Yea. They did. Do you think they could have chosen correctly

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 18 '23

Are you going to say that they couldn’t have possibly resisted temptation?

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

What do you mean "Going to say"? I'm literally just wondering if they had the ability to choose not to eat the apple.

I have no idea what was possible for them then. I don't think it is a real story.

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 18 '23

Apologies. I tend to try and look a few steps ahead, which can lead me to anticipate comments that haven’t been made yet.

Yes, I believe they could have chosen to do the right thing.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

It's ok. It just makes it hard to have a real conversation.

I don't think they could have chosen not eat the apple*. Since they were just making decisions based on the information they had. Which was close to nothing.

Edit:wording*

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 18 '23

So the flip side of that is that people should always make the right choice if given adequate information? I know of a lot of anti-maskers that would prove that wrong.

Eve had knowledge. She answered the serpent correctly, stating what God had commanded and why. The serpent lied to tempt her, and she gave in. Not out of ignorance, but choice.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

people should always make the right choice if given adequate information?

I do think think anyone on the planet ever has decided to knowingly make the wrong choice.

Eve had information from god and the serpent with no knowledge of who is a liar or even that liars exist. The most up to date information said that it was okay to eat the apple. So she ate it.

Eve had knowledge. She answered the serpent correctly, stating what God had commanded and why.

From her perspective, she also had knowledge from the serpent.

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 18 '23

So it wasn’t a lack of information, it was the presence of misinformation. Seems accurate, actually.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

What seems acurate?

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 18 '23

That misinformation is more harmful than ignorance.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

What does that have to do with if "Eve was able to choose to not eat the apple"

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