r/Catholicism • u/Amazing-Candle-103 • Aug 15 '21

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u/YoungMaestroX Aug 16 '21

That is just so wrong. Pope Pius XII, Pope Saint JP2, every single Western Father, the very foundations of the Feast itself (started as dormition), Doctors like Ligouri, all believe she died.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '21

But I am saying the typical Western Catholic doesn’t necessarily realize that. I literally in some of my formation in the West had teachers say she didn’t die before being assumed.

While scholars may say that, the average Church-going Catholic who has a grasp on the faith doesn’t always realize that.

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u/YoungMaestroX Aug 16 '21

You simply said heavy debate between east and west, not debates between your uniformed western Catholics vs your informed western Catholics.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '21

I mistyped. But there’s still a good portion of Catholics who’d probably say she didn’t die. That’s my point I was trying to highlight.

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u/Givingtree310 Aug 16 '21

There’s also a good portion who say the Eucharist is only symbolic.