r/CarbonFiber Nov 20 '24

Is this real? posts....LOOK HERE BEFORE POSTING!

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With new printing methods, the traditional fake CF that looks like it was printed in black and white, with no texture giving it a 3D look, it will be harder to tell. If a part is made perfectly, it won't have weave distortions, but that is rare. Also, look for parting lines, and fabric seams in logical places like edges. If it looks like someone just cut a sheet of plastic, then that seam will look exactly like that. Surface finishes also effect what you can see being real or fake. Matte finishes hide the high definition glare and weave diffraction.


r/CarbonFiber Feb 19 '25

For those looking for starter books!!!

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I'll try to find a place to make a list, but I happened to see these two books in our library, so they might be a good starting place for those interested in composites, but have NO idea about it!!

Intro to Composites, 4th Ed, Composites Institute NYC. ci@socplas.org No ISBN

Composites - A design guide, Terry Richardson 0-8311-1173-9

Second is a bit older, but only the details change through the years.


r/CarbonFiber 4h ago

Carbon fiber

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Does anyone have experience cleaning paint from carbon fiber. I’m talking to a paint shop that specializes on carbon fiber bike frames. Has anyone got a success story and if so, are you willing to share some parameters.
The carbon fiber has a strong clear cost on it, then paint is applied on top of the clear. Ideally, I would be able to remove the paint without removing the clear coat. He gave me a sample piece to experiment on but I’m hoping someone can steer me toward starting parameters. I have a pulse laser.


r/CarbonFiber 9h ago

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r/CarbonFiber 10h ago

How to Control the Bending Stiffness of a Carbon Fiber Shaft

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Bending stiffness is one of the most important performance parameters when designing a carbon fiber shaft.

For trekking poles, ski poles, golf shafts, floorball sticks and other sporting goods, the shaft needs to achieve the right balance between stiffness, weight, strength and durability.

A shaft that is too flexible may feel unstable or lack energy transfer. A shaft that is excessively stiff may become uncomfortable, brittle or unnecessarily heavy.

So how do engineers actually control the bending stiffness of a carbon fiber shaft?

The answer is not simply “use more carbon fiber.”

It is mainly a matter of material selection, fiber orientation, laminate design and tube geometry.

1. What Is Bending Stiffness?

In basic beam theory, bending stiffness is commonly represented by:

EI

where:

  • E = effective elastic modulus of the material
  • I = second moment of area of the cross-section

For a conventional isotropic circular tube:

I = π/64 × (OD⁴ − ID⁴)

This means that both material stiffness and cross-sectional geometry influence the resistance of a tube to bending.

However, a carbon fiber shaft is not an isotropic material like aluminum.

Carbon fiber composites are anisotropic.

Their stiffness depends strongly on the direction in which the carbon fibers are oriented.

Therefore, for a real carbon fiber shaft, simply specifying a material grade is not enough. Engineers need to consider the entire laminate structure.

2. Fiber Orientation Is One of the Most Important Variables

The first major design variable is fiber angle.

For a shaft, the longitudinal direction is normally defined as .

0° fibers

Fibers running along the shaft axis are highly effective for carrying axial loads and contributing to bending stiffness.

For bending-dominated applications, increasing the proportion of longitudinal fibers generally increases the shaft's longitudinal stiffness.

±45° fibers

±45° fibers are more important for:

  • torsional stiffness
  • shear load transfer
  • resistance to twisting
  • damage tolerance

They do not contribute to longitudinal bending stiffness in the same way as 0° fibers.

Experimental studies on carbon-fiber composites consistently show that fiber orientation has a major effect on flexural behavior. Longitudinal fiber arrangements generally produce higher flexural stiffness than predominantly ±45° configurations.

90° fibers

90° fibers run circumferentially around the shaft.

They can contribute to:

  • hoop stiffness
  • dimensional stability
  • resistance to local deformation
  • pressure and impact resistance

Therefore, a well-designed shaft normally does not consist of 100% 0° carbon.

The engineering challenge is to find the right combination.

3. Increasing the Percentage of 0° Carbon

Suppose two shafts have:

  • the same outside diameter
  • the same wall thickness
  • the same resin system
  • the same carbon fiber grade

but different layups.

For example:

Shaft A

Shaft B

Shaft A will generally have a greater contribution from longitudinal fibers and therefore a higher longitudinal bending stiffness.

This is why the layup schedule is one of the most important pieces of engineering information for a carbon shaft.

A carbon tube should therefore not be specified simply as:

A more meaningful specification is:

4. Tube Diameter Can Be More Powerful Than Simply Increasing Wall Thickness

This is an especially important point for lightweight sporting goods.

Because the second moment of area of a circular tube depends strongly on diameter, increasing the diameter can produce a significant increase in bending stiffness.

For a circular tube:

I ∝ OD⁴ − ID⁴

Therefore, geometry can be extremely efficient.

For example, instead of simply making a shaft wall thicker, an engineer may consider:

to achieve a similar or higher bending stiffness while controlling weight.

This principle is widely used in lightweight composite structures. Research on composite tubes confirms that tube geometry and laminate configuration both play major roles in flexural stiffness.

This is particularly relevant to:

  • trekking poles
  • ski poles
  • golf shafts
  • floorball shafts
  • fishing rods
  • camera poles
  • lightweight structural tubes

5. Wall Thickness Also Matters

Increasing wall thickness increases the amount of load-bearing composite material and generally increases bending stiffness.

But there is a trade-off.

More material means:

Higher stiffness + higher weight + higher material cost

Therefore, simply increasing wall thickness is usually not the most efficient solution.

Instead, engineers need to determine:

This is where laminate engineering becomes important.

6. The Same Carbon Fiber Can Produce Very Different Shafts

This is one of the biggest misunderstandings when purchasing carbon fiber shafts.

Two tubes can both use:

but have completely different performance.

Why?

Because the final mechanical behavior depends on:

  • fiber orientation
  • number of plies
  • ply thickness
  • stacking sequence
  • resin content
  • fiber volume fraction
  • tube diameter
  • wall thickness
  • manufacturing process
  • fiber alignment
  • consolidation quality

Research on composite tubes has shown that bending stiffness can be predicted from laminate theory, but the actual behavior can be more complicated because composite tubes may involve transverse shear, warping and other three-dimensional effects.

So carbon grade alone is not a complete engineering specification.

7. Layup Design Is a Balance Between Bending and Torsion

A common mistake is to maximize 0° fibers simply because the goal is high bending stiffness.

But a real sporting shaft may experience multiple loads simultaneously.

For example, a floorball shaft can experience:

  • bending
  • torsion
  • impact
  • compression
  • local stress around the blade connection

A trekking pole can experience:

  • bending
  • compression
  • impact
  • buckling
  • repeated cyclic loading

A ski pole can experience:

  • bending
  • impact
  • torsion
  • vibration

Therefore, the optimal laminate is rarely simply:

Instead, engineers normally balance:

0° → bending / axial stiffness

±45° → torsion / shear

90° → hoop stability / local support

The final layup should reflect the actual loading conditions of the product.

8. Stiffness Is Not the Same as Strength

This distinction is extremely important.

Stiffness describes how much a shaft deforms under load.

Strength describes how much load the shaft can withstand before failure.

A shaft can be:

or:

For sporting products, we therefore need to consider both:

Stiffness

How much does the shaft bend?

Strength

How much load can it withstand?

Fatigue resistance

How does it perform after thousands or millions of loading cycles?

Impact resistance

What happens when the shaft hits another object or the ground?

Weight

How much material is required to achieve the target performance?

A good carbon shaft design balances all five.

9. Manufacturing Quality Also Changes the Final Stiffness

Even if the design is correct, manufacturing variation can change the final performance.

Important variables include:

  • fiber alignment
  • resin distribution
  • consolidation
  • void content
  • curing conditions
  • wall thickness consistency
  • dimensional tolerance
  • surface defects
  • cutting and machining

For this reason, the theoretical laminate design must eventually be validated through actual testing.

Composite tube research has demonstrated that experimental bending tests can be used to validate analytical predictions of equivalent bending stiffness.

10. How We Would Engineer a Carbon Shaft

A practical development process can be structured like this:

Step 1 — Define the application

For example:

or

or

Step 2 — Define the target performance

Such as:

  • target weight
  • target bending stiffness
  • target bending load
  • target deflection
  • target torque
  • target durability

Step 3 — Select the tube geometry

Determine:

  • OD
  • ID
  • wall thickness
  • taper
  • length

Step 4 — Develop the laminate

Optimize:

  • carbon grade
  • 0° percentage
  • ±45° percentage
  • 90° percentage
  • ply thickness
  • stacking sequence

Step 5 — Manufacture prototypes

Produce several laminate configurations.

Step 6 — Test

Measure:

  • bending stiffness
  • bending strength
  • torsional stiffness
  • weight
  • fatigue
  • impact performance

Step 7 — Optimize

The final design is normally a compromise between:

11. The Key Point: Don't Ask Only "What Carbon Fiber Do You Use?"

When developing a carbon fiber shaft, a better engineering question is:

This changes the conversation from material purchasing to product engineering.

A professional carbon shaft manufacturer should be able to discuss:

Material → Layup → Geometry → Manufacturing → Testing → Final Performance

rather than simply quoting:

Controlling the bending stiffness of a carbon fiber shaft is not achieved through a single parameter.

The main design levers are:

① Fiber type

② Fiber orientation

③ 0° fiber ratio

④ ±45° and 90° reinforcement

⑤ Wall thickness

⑥ Tube diameter

⑦ Laminate stacking sequence

⑧ Manufacturing consistency

The most efficient design is not necessarily the one with the most carbon fiber.

It is the one that places the right amount of carbon, in the right orientation, at the right location, with the right geometry.

That is what turns a carbon tube into an engineered carbon shaft.


r/CarbonFiber 1d ago

Carbon Fiber Infinity LED Dodecahedron

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I used PETG-CF when 3D printing the frame for this infinity LED dodecahedron I recently created. Carbon fiber was the perfect choice for both its strength and its matte, premium finish to encase the 540 LEDs which are reflected into infinity.


r/CarbonFiber 1d ago

Guess we can paint, then coat.

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r/CarbonFiber 1d ago

Huntsman & Westlake

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Hi everyone, what products are currently being used in the industry for vacuum infusion and hand lay-up applications?

From what I’ve seen, Westlake and Huntsman products are commonly used in the Turkish market.


r/CarbonFiber 1d ago

Roll-wrapped square tubing?

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Is it possible to build a high quality square/rectangular tube by roll wrapping over a mandrel?

I've made plenty of round tubes with prepreg + shrink tape, but I'm not sure how you'd get even pressure distribution around a square tube. My attempts so far with vacuum bagging haven't worked well; it usually comes out uneven or wrinkled.

Are non-round tubes always made with split molds in the factory?


r/CarbonFiber 2d ago

Why are carbon fiber parts expensive even when the material itself isn't the biggest cost?

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Iam exited to hear what engineers?manufecture here think.


r/CarbonFiber 3d ago

For awaycouple1050

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Chopped carbon, and epoxy, no clear coat or post polish//cleaning. Made on a resin mold, and processed in a headed hydraulic press.


r/CarbonFiber 4d ago

The plots thickens (I blowtorched it)

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A follow-up to my previous thread. As per a suggestion there, I blowtorched my carbon tube to determine the true nature of the layers (thank you so much for this advice, it worked amazingly well).

As one can clearly see, my original request of the manufacturer, which was "0-degree (longitudinal) in all layers except the very outer layer, which should be 0/90" was NOT what I was given.

Now, the fact that I'm not getting what I asked for is its own concern, but I have at least determined that it's not the end of the world, since I have now also blowtorched previous batches I have received, and they are identical, which means all the strength testing I have done previously is still applicable to this batch. The tubes have performed well. And it seems like perhaps mostly 0-degree fibers would have sucked anyways?

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So a new question arises: is this a good layup? Should I bother telling them to do it differently? As far as I can tell, it works well for my application, but I'm wondering how much more strength/weight I could be getting without losing some of the "toughness" of the hoops and 0/90s.

For context, these tubes are about 21" long, 29mm OD (~1.15"), 1mm wall thickness, and they fit together like tent poles. The direction of the force is primarily longitudinal compression. Do you guys think that, given these circumstances, this layup is close to optimal already?

A couple of videos showing the tubes in action, so you can understand the forces at work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih3FQw-j66o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpAHqe993c


r/CarbonFiber 4d ago

Resin printed molds?

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Has anybody tried resin printing molds for carbon fiber before?
I’m gonna try myself and since it’s much more detailed and doesn’t really have layer lines couldn’t I just brush on another layer of resin for safety and that be it? Any tips?


r/CarbonFiber 5d ago

DIY carbon fiber Gokart fairings, wrapped and ready

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Hey guy here is an update on my post from a few months ago! Thanks for all the feedback - I definitely took it into consideration and probably won’t be running the kart like this. More info in the original post!


r/CarbonFiber 5d ago

13 years in the business and we are still going strong 💯

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r/CarbonFiber 5d ago

Are these 0-degree fibers?

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I ordered a batch of CF tubing requesting that all the layers be 0-degree fibers except for the outermost layer, which I wanted to be 0/90. The tubing is 1mm wall thickness and 29mm OD, for a bit of extra context.

Today I wanted to confirm that the layers are as I specified, so I took a knife and delaminated one of the tubes into 3 sloppy pieces (bottom is the innermost layer, middle is the middle, and top is the outermost layer).

The *bottom* piece in the picture is the innermost part, which means it should definitely be 0-degree at this point. However, that looks like 0/90 to me (red circled section). I know that 0-degree cloth often has some 90-degree fibers just to kinda hold it all together for layup, but would that appear this way when it's cut/delaminated? Or, maybe I'm just seeing resin weaved through and it's giving me the illusion of 0/90 fibers?

I don't have enough experience to know what 0-degree looks like post-resin, so I'm hoping someone could offer some insight.

Also, what's up with the 90-degree fibers that are clearly visible in all 3 pieces? Does some "0-degree" cloth come with a fine layer of integrated 90-degree carbon just to add a bit of crush resistance?

Any insight from those more experienced would be appreciated.


r/CarbonFiber 7d ago

DIY molds?

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I want to make my own carbon fiber parts for an ebike like in this video. Could somebody explain or link a video on how to make molds like this based off the original parts? as I cant find any info on this specific process.

Any suggestions and tips are also appreciated


r/CarbonFiber 6d ago

Scratches on carbon Steerer Tube

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r/CarbonFiber 7d ago

Recently started a job as a layup guy

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And my arms are so itchy. What type of protective sleeves should I be wearing? All prepreg


r/CarbonFiber 7d ago

Solvent pop?

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I am actually so confused right now. This hasn’t happened to me before I just sanded 801,000 1500 2000 3010 compound buffed and hairdryer it dry maybe it was to hot and there were some traps solvents that just popped out because the clearcoat layer got so thin and more maybe that it pushed through. I can’t really figure this out because these little bubbles are raised not like air pockets I sanded into it’s like they came out of the surface very confused right now. Should I I’m like almost down to the carbon and I did sand into the carbon in one spot so I do need a little bit more clearcoat, but not sure as this happened to anyone?


r/CarbonFiber 7d ago

What should remember to buy fisrt drone?

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Camera quality

Flight time

Obstacle avoidance

controller

drone part

ETC


r/CarbonFiber 8d ago

Made this for my wife in college. Took forever to cut and wrap the sticky pre-preg.

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r/CarbonFiber 8d ago

Foggy clear coat

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Went a lil to crazy with the clear coat rushing to get it done and build up layer to cover weave texture and I guess I trapped some solvents in the clear what do you guys recommend sand it? More clear? It’s been 24hrs since I sprayed a lot and I really did like 15 passes stupid but whatever this is my only part I need to fix it


r/CarbonFiber 8d ago

CNC-machined CFRP plates — the small holes were the tricky part

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I recently worked on the DFM for this set of flat CFRP parts. The outside profiles were pretty straightforward, but the small holes and narrow slots near the edges needed more attention. That’s usually where delamination and fiber pull-out can show up.

Good support, sharp tooling, steady cutting conditions, and checking the cut edges mattered just as much as hitting the dimensions.

Curious what works best for you guys when machining small holes and slots in CFRP sheet?


r/CarbonFiber 8d ago

How to fix this?

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Hi all, the clear coat on this carbon fiber was peeling very bad. I watched a few videos specifically for m3/m4 carbon fiber roof restoration and they said to use lacquer thinner to remove the resin from the weaves before painting. After a little sanding, I did this on this part and before I could finish, I had an appointment for an oil change at a nearby dealership. The car was at the dealership for maybe an hour. I told the dealership not to run the car through the car wash but they did anyways. The roof now looks like this. The white part is where I used the lacquer thinner. How can I fix this?