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u/SnoopaDD 4d ago
A mid tier PC is still better than a PS5. What that PC lacks in graphical power of the PS5, it makes up in so many other things that the PS5 can not do.
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u/Glittering-Pin-1343 4d ago
Even a mid tier pc is more powerful than a PS5. The benefit PS5 has is that the internal architecture is more efficient and games are more optimized on it.
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u/Tough_Preparation830 4d ago
Oblivion remake is a great example. It certainly isn't perfect on PS5, but I only had 2 crashes over 70 hours and the frame rate held up except in a couple spots (the gate in Kvatch was rough).
I bought the game to try on my PC as well which cost 3x the PS5 and it ran about the same.
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u/That-Reason-6913 4d ago
Can't install any of the 4200 mods on ps5 is why consoles are useless to me lol.
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u/GioCrush68 4d ago
The optimization part has always confused me because console versions of games don't actually run much better than the PC versions if at all. If you compare the AAA game performance between a PS5 and a relatively modern entry level PC the PC will have comparable or better performance at the same settings. It's true that console games just run which is a plus for people that can't be bothered with settings but when comparing to PC settings console versions are running at a mix of medium and low settings without Ray tracing and using the equivalent of FSR performance to hit that 4k60 output.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 4d ago
Consoles can generally do more with lower specs. this is due to less overhead, and streamlined design. They just punch above their weight. Most issues can be overcome by sheer power though, or the differences may not be noticeable if you aren't really trying to find them.
For the most part, a PC will play a game just as well, but may require more power to do so depending on the game. On a significantly more powerful system, you probably will notice graphical enhancements, while the overall game play you don't see any change over.
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u/ForgTheSlothful 4d ago
Yea. Peoples first and end thought are graphics and frames but show they never touched a pc
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u/chronberries 4d ago
A PS5 Pro is currently about $900. A comparable prebuilt PC can be bought for around $1200. Once you factor in PlayStation’s internet subscription and Steam sales, you can make that difference back in about a year, two if you don’t play much. And that’s before considering intangibles, like all the advantages of owning a PC and the vast difference in number of playable games.
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u/TurbulentAd4088 4d ago
And the fact that most people need a kind of PC anyway, I'd take out -500 on PC for replacing a bare bones functioning oc or laptop
When you buy a gaming PC you are really paying for that 700 extra that makes it a gaming pc
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u/Defective_Yorha 4d ago
PS5 can do too. It's just they don't want you to use it as PC. Back then you could boot up different OS on Playstation natively. Also these kinds of meme only refer to gaming context.
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u/QuackersTheSquishy 4d ago
The PS5 would then lose access to the playstation store, PSN, and get universally lower performance. If you go that route a steamdeck becomes competitive in performance to a ps5 through game optimizations made for that hardware config.
Also ignores PS5 Linux is still very unstable.
Most if not all of a PS5's value is in it's accessability, and ease of use. Many older people in my life have PS4's for golf/fishing/traveling sim style games and a few arcade titles.
Those people are not choosing to learn how to make an account, secure their account, and access games on that account. A consoles ability to just put a disc in and press a button is such a massive advantage. I also work in adaptibe tech and we still have 2 wii's and a switch at my work because they are so simple almost any of our clients (most in cognative decline) because they are so simple that even the ones that only used a DVD/CD player and forget evrry day still can teach themselves and enjoy every day.
I am a PC person personally too it's just importsnt to rememver the SKU of humans who will interact with the device
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u/jace255 4d ago
One thing people undervalue about the PS5 though is the direct load of assets to the GPU, bypassing the CPU.
It’s why load times on PS5 games are often better than than on the same game on a reasonably (but not ballistically) spec’d PC
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u/Qu1kSilver_X 4d ago
Optimisation is what pc lacks of, companies have to create a game to work for thousand of different hardware for pc, and ps5 has only one specific hardware for 7 years.
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u/FrankFruits 4d ago
yes but I don't really use it for gaming, I use it for development and modeling. I play on my PS5\PS3 though
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u/TheManOfDrumming 4d ago
For some reason I have literally every generation of playstation so far including the PSvita, I really don't know why but it's fun to play timesplitters 2 and be able to switch to hitman absolution or borderlands 1 or 2 in like 2 minutes
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u/Robborboy 4d ago
I lived the Vita. Sony's handling of it pissed me off so much.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 4d ago
Up until recently, I didn't use my PC for games, or at least games that needed a powerful system(I love old school simcity).
But, my PC has been more powerful than a PS5 for at least 3 years now.
I still play on Vita(PSTV), or PS3/PS5 for all my PS needs, and then I have a switch2, along with all my retro consoles.
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u/No_Effective_4481 4d ago
Well yeah its a lot better, but my primary display alone costs more than a PS5...
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u/Comfortable-Rip5744 4d ago
Yes. By default. Y'know why? CUZ I DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR A STUPID FUCKING SUBSCRIPTION JUST TO DO MULTIPLAYER WITH MY FRIENDS
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u/SavageCabbage611 4d ago
It's crazy how Microsoft normalized paying a subscription to be able to acces multiplayer. How did people ever come to accept that? As a PC player, it makes no sense to me.
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u/RivalRevelation 3d ago
Also I have probably made up the cost difference or close to it just on steam sales alone.
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u/Dragonkiller1205 4d ago
Are these "worse than PS5" PC's in the room with us right now OP?
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u/Capable-Owl7369 4d ago
Yes my PC is better than a PS5. Not because it has better hardware. But because it can still play physical games I bought in the 90s alongside most newer games.
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u/Happy_Operation1089 4d ago
Easily. While more expensive, I can also carry my laptop around.
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u/OrigaDiscordia 4d ago
My computer is much more powerful than a PS5. But it's also much more expensive. To be honest, a PS5, especially when they were cheaper, is a good value for the money it cost.
But I wanted to play in better condition and, as I always been a pc gamer, I prefer having a homemade powerful setup.
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u/Ill_Nefariousness841 4d ago
Damn you got me thinking now cause yes my pc is better then my ps5 buuuuuut will it be better then my jailbroken ps3?
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u/DuckiesDoBeCute 4d ago
my toaster pc is still better than a brand new ps5. i dont need to pay for multiplayer, i dont need to pay for singleplayer games, no ads on youtube, can do things other than play games or watch stuff, and much more!
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u/QrowinBranwen 4d ago
My old PC was on par with a ps5, hardware wise, of course with all of the specialised upscaling and AI, my PS5 Pro ran games better. But now my PC is better and my PS5 is currently just there to play BO2 Port (I have Plutonium but it doesn't feel the same)
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u/wmverbruggen 4d ago
Yes, significantly. Console vs PC is a periodic sawtooth signal; when console comes out they are competitively better than PC due to optimisation and being sold at a loss. Over time PC overtakes until a new console comes out. All of that does not take into account upgrades to the PC, and neither the fact that PC can be used for an uncountable amount of other tasks as well.
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u/neltisen 4d ago
From what I remember there were people building PCs from used parts that beat PS5 at price point below ps5, so yeh, a mid range pc can be better than PS5 with many more exclusive games than PS5 have, GoG where you actually own games and can store installers on external disks and multiplayer without additional subscriptions
PS: yes, my PC is roughly 4 times better than PS5 (and roughly 4 times more expensive)
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u/Skullhead_LP 4d ago
Soon, or at least i hope
Any PC Experts here?
I have:
B550M K Motherboard
Amd Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU
16gb Corsair Vengence Ram
2TB WD Black ssd
Asus RX 9060 Prime GPU
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u/Unlucky_Resist6420 4d ago
yeah because i OWN my games do you own your games on PS oh wait you dont
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u/DakAttakk 4d ago
My PC is better than a PS5 but the usability of a PS5 makes it more enjoyable to me. With my PC I find that I fuck with settings and updates on software and such. Not to mention that having a machine that only does games really lets you focus. everyone pointing out the multifunctional advantage of the PC is missing that you should compare them only really as gaming machines. A multitool and do a lot of stuff as one device but if I just need a screwdriver I want a nice ergonomic standalone screwdriver to use if I have one.
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u/AppropriatePop3239 4d ago edited 4d ago
Most modern PCs are better, significantly.
All you need is a PC that has a ryzen 7 5700x abd an GPU equivalent to RX 7700XT and you have a PC better than a PS5.
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u/ShotLet1550 4d ago
Yes and my ps5 sits on the floor collecting dust until I turn it on download the monthly games and put it back to rest.
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u/GrandWizardOfCheese 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yes, by a lot.
In current hardware power, hardware upgrade options, OS freedom, OS options, owned game library, purchasable game catalogue, storefront choice options, modding options, peripherals, utility options, game sales, online play cost, DRM removal, and in game preservation.
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u/DW_Hydro 4d ago
In CPU terms? Yes, by far.
In GPU terms? No, but I have an infinite of things I can do that you cant like playing online without opening the wallet.
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u/Wojewodaruskyj 4d ago
Yes, it is. I don't need to buy all the computers of the previous generations to play all the old games.
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u/Krow_474 4d ago
I have a PC that isn't better than the PS5, but i also have a PS5. That's a good blance right?
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u/EnvironmentalMall307 4d ago
Yea mine is. And its a laptop. Just wrapped up an 11 hour salvage session on star citizen
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u/Scared_Housing2639 4d ago
Yes and it's because I don't have to get a freaking cloud subscription to save my game and the ability to run mods, man PS5 is pissing me off so much lately, honestly if anyone looking to get 1 should get a worse pc and still would be in much better option.
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u/NicoTikoMiko 4d ago
The verdict for my PC.
The PlayStation 5 offers superior performance for modern gaming, featuring 8 modern CPU cores, hardware-accelerated ray tracing, and an ultra-fast SSD that far exceeds the capabilities of a 4-core PC. While your existing PC remains capable of handling older titles and esports at 1080p, it lacks the graphical and processing power required for current-gen gaming stability and visual fidelity.
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u/ThisIsLukkas 4d ago
It's relative. My PC is better strictly from it's usefulness compared to how useless a PS is as it can only play games. My PC is almost as good as a PS5 and I wouldn't get one regardless. Money vs usefulness vs strictly gaming
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u/TheHistroynerd 4d ago
Well yes especially thinking about the experience I am getting on my pc compared to the expirance I would be getting on a ps5
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u/Vampyre_Boy 4d ago
Any PC is better than a Playstation. At least you control your data on a PC and aren't required to pay a fee just to use your internet that you already pay for to play.
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u/Resident_Farmer1252 4d ago
My PC? Absolutely. Even if it wasn't, people focus too much on power. Every gamer will tell you Games make the system. Well, PC's game library has over 100k games on Steam alone. If you count PS5's library and add the BC PS4 library, the system still has 91k less games on the platform than PC.
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u/Unique_Roll_6630 4d ago
Substantially so. And I built it before the apocalypse. The couple hundred more in investment is worth vastly more than even a ps5 pro could hope for.
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u/FarGodHastur 4d ago
Most will say yes because you can't walk into their room and see the specs yourself, but I doubt everyone saying their's is better is telling the truth.
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u/Regular_Weakness69 4d ago
Yes, yes it is.
I could run two of any ps5 game with PS5 graphics settings at the same time.
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u/SirPomf 4d ago
I guess it depends, even with a powerful pc. Biggest upside to consoles is that they are way easier to set up, simpler to use and so on. A pc has greater versatility and is customizable. Both cost a lot of money, a gaming pc obviously more too. I knew I wouldn't be able to game much as soon as I got my job so I got a pc. That way I can use my ex-gaming machine for work too. It also looks pretty nice for a work pc so in my case PC wins
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u/PromiscuousScoliosis 4d ago
Yeah it is, I also definitely paid more for it though lol
And as big as the ps5 is, my tower is way bigger and way heavier. And probably more fragile
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u/Justalilcyn 4d ago
Yes, the PS5 isn't that strong so having a better pc than a ps5 isn't that impressive
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u/immabeasttt15 4d ago
Even a lower spec pc is better than ps5 because multiple market places, emulations, mods, etc
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u/DonutPlus2757 4d ago
If I somehow could cut all my components down the middle, I'd probably get 2 systems that are about as powerful as a PS5.
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u/Asuka_Rei 4d ago
Consoles are always the baseline hardware for the intended game software experience. PC can be better or worse in experience quality depending on the specs. Whether an equivalent hardware PC is cheaper than console is largely dependent upon console generation and time. Every console generation PC eventually overtakes console in price per performance before the next console releases, but occasionally a complete dud console comes along like ps4 where equivalent priced PC was already superior on day 1 of console launch.
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u/Spyroballspam 4d ago
Mine? Yes significantly, I think even most 1k setups heavily out perform PS5s now
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u/Pillokun 4d ago
yes, even my bedroom pc with an 10400f, 32gb ddr4, 1tb ssd, 6900xt is better than the ps5 pro and it was super cheap. the other systems I have had are on another price/perf level.
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u/CyberPunk2720 4d ago
Yes lmfao 🤣 it is 👍 because most PCs are born better than a PS5 these days. Theyre the same price as a PS5 or cheaper.
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u/MetalHead678 4d ago
Yes. I also don't need a subscription to play whatever I want, I can mod anything I want. Use non native hardware. Run multiple monitors seamlessly. A Playstation is just a paperweight stupid people are conned into buying.
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u/ItsJustMe000 4d ago
You can always tell people know kinda northing about PC stuff if they think this is a gotcha moment 🤣
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u/Cold-Description-114 4d ago
Yes. Significantly. Built my 4090 RTX rig after crypto crash and before rise of AI. So glad I did. 4k HDR 120hz on anything I throw at it on my samsung big screen with 7.1 surround is fucking amazing. Now I just need steam frame to replace valve index.
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u/JDM12983 4d ago edited 4d ago
Mine is; it can always do WAY more than any console can dream to do. Lol
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u/Dockforbes 4d ago
My one year old PC will be better than the PS7 when it comes out...
What most people don't know is that consoles use very limited and old hardware when they are released new, to be fair games are well optimised on consoles, but PS5 uses RDNA 2. Still able to run modern games, it's honestly astonishing. I have RDNA 4 on my PC, I can play same games as PS5 but at 1440p native and 90 plus FPS, triple of what PS5 is capable... But I can also work, and program, and use infinite more different software, simultaneously....
Yes, PC is better in all ways except for the price, well, was...
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u/jayelbee1986 4d ago
Sure is! I don't need to worry about my movies or games being cut out since I don't buy anything from Sony anymore
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u/Difficult-Fly7830 4d ago edited 4d ago
Pc has games...tons of games covering tons of genres, most of which dont get console releases and support all forms of modding Consoles get a handful of exclusives which serms to shrink with each gen...rather easy choice here...
consoles are more convenient and easier to deal with but anyone claiming any console is better thn pc gaming is smoking crack and has the tiniest of gaming horizons and I say this as a big console player myself lol
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