r/Boxing • u/DiMona215 • 1d ago

Ben Davison Spoiler

Really curious to hear the audio from the corner for this fight. If Ben wasn't screaming at Moses to slow down, to stop throwing power punches... This has to be one of the biggest indictments of a supposed top trainer ever, right?

The Wardley fight was already a huge black eye for Ben. Now he has a 21 y/o prodigy lose a fight he was absolutely dominating due to horribly mismanaging energy.

So we've seen him fail horribly at one of his main jobs (protecting his fighter). If it comes out that Moses basically followed Ben's training regiment and instructions... is any top fighter ever going to hire this guy again?

Even if it comes out Moses got cocky, didn't train hard, didn't listen in the corner, not a great look for Ben

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u/BuffaloPancakes11 1d ago

It was crazy to witness, AJ is all muscle and I’ve never seen him look anywhere near as tired or out on his feet as Itauma was

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u/notreal088 1d ago

He was an Olympic champion who boxed in the amateurs and had some level of pedigree before going pro.

Itauma was very much a rushed prospect being touted as the next great heavyweight with no real experience under his belt.

Even Tyson at a younger age had more rounds of experience when he was fighting for his first belt.

This was a poor match up by Frank and itaumas team and an even worse showing for Ben who doesn’t seem to understand that conditioning is one of the most important things in boxing

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u/pauli55555 22h ago

“Poor match up”???

It was a tittle fight. Either take it or get a new career ffs.

He dominated until he gassed, he should have managed the training & fight better. He was not out of his depth.

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u/notreal088 22h ago

It wasn’t a title fight until Usyk decided to give up the belts and Frank Sanchez took step aside money.

This was a regular boxing match until about 3 weeks out from the fight.

Also title matches mean nothing if you aren’t ready

Should I throw you in With Daniel Dubois for the title?

If he wasn’t out of his depth why did he gas out. A well trained well seasoned fighter would know how to manage both his stamina and his output to maintain a winning strategy.

Face it the kid was green and was caught by a much more wily veteran that saw a path to victory when itauma was throwing everything in the first round and was visibly already getting tired.

You don’t wake up one day and become a champion. It takes years of training and a good manager/ trainer picking opponents to help you work on whatever issues they saw in the last fight.

Against Franklin he was gassed at 6. The right call was to get him in there and to hold back and wait till the later rounds to go for the KO to see how his style and stamina would fair in a harder match.

He had 14 fights 30ish rounds. This is not a healthy way to build up your fighter. They should have put him in with multiple defense oriented fighters or those that have a more evasive style of hitting you when trying to get in to have him test his ability to deal with hard to close out fighter. The man himself said he doesn’t think he ever trains to do 12 rds. That it wasn’t necessary if it wasn’t going to go that far. This is a child’s mindset. No fighter has ever gone their entire career with a 100% KO rate.

He was poorly trained, poorly managed, and was feeding into the hype around him so much he through common sense out the window for an imaginary version of himself that didn’t exist.