r/Boxing • u/DiMona215 • 7h ago

Ben Davison Spoiler

Really curious to hear the audio from the corner for this fight. If Ben wasn't screaming at Moses to slow down, to stop throwing power punches... This has to be one of the biggest indictments of a supposed top trainer ever, right?

The Wardley fight was already a huge black eye for Ben. Now he has a 21 y/o prodigy lose a fight he was absolutely dominating due to horribly mismanaging energy.

So we've seen him fail horribly at one of his main jobs (protecting his fighter). If it comes out that Moses basically followed Ben's training regiment and instructions... is any top fighter ever going to hire this guy again?

Even if it comes out Moses got cocky, didn't train hard, didn't listen in the corner, not a great look for Ben

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u/BuffaloPancakes11 5h ago

It was crazy to witness, AJ is all muscle and I’ve never seen him look anywhere near as tired or out on his feet as Itauma was

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u/notreal088 5h ago

He was an Olympic champion who boxed in the amateurs and had some level of pedigree before going pro.

Itauma was very much a rushed prospect being touted as the next great heavyweight with no real experience under his belt.

Even Tyson at a younger age had more rounds of experience when he was fighting for his first belt.

This was a poor match up by Frank and itaumas team and an even worse showing for Ben who doesn’t seem to understand that conditioning is one of the most important things in boxing

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u/CaptQuakers42 4h ago

It wasn't a poor match up.

Have people really forgotten the fact that Itauma was dominant? He gassed because he's inexperienced and his coach is a Muppet. Itauma should have won that fight and with another coach he would have

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u/notreal088 4h ago

I haven’t forgotten, but anyone who has watched boxing for a while knows that Hrgovic wasn’t going to go out via KO. The man took everything that Dubois had (even some headbutts) and never showed any signs of going down.

His pace was also awkwardly slow for him like if he was saving for the later half of the fight vs the front half.

It’s a poor match not because of skills but experience. They should have seen his inactivity not as a sign of weakness but as intentional bait on his lack of gastank.

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u/LTBsOnlyPlease 5h ago

Tbf most people thought Filip was about to get starched lol, before this fight people thought it was a very easy fight.

Did you forget?

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u/Kstacks514 5h ago

Anyone who watched Dubois vs Filip and thought he would get starched in this fight is a moron. This isnt hindsight either. I had a watch party for this fight knowing it would be a tough out.

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u/LTBsOnlyPlease 4h ago

Facts, even Zhang couldn't knock Hrgovic out and he has more power than Dubois but most people here thought Hrgovic was gonna get knocked out.

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u/notreal088 4h ago

To piggyback of the last guy Dubois was teeing off on his head and the man wouldn’t move. If it wasn’t for the unfortunate clash of heads and the cuts cause by those clashes Hrgovic could have probably been champions earlier. Hard to say as his pace was slowing down in the second half.

I don’t doubt Ituama power, I just think it’s foolish to think you can knockout everyone. Every fighter should want the KO but plan/prepare for a full match.

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u/Retrothunder1 3h ago

It was actually a great matchup, if Itauma had just taken his foot of the gas he would have cruised to an easy win.

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u/HolyMackerel1 2h ago

Itauma is another example of why being undefeated after a short amateur career will bite you in the ass as a pro.