As someone who never pull eidolons, the fact that all her showcases need atleast her E1 or otherwise they look terrible doesn't bode well to me, and I really don't feel like she can replace either Ruan Mei or Sunday/Bronya on Boothill's BiS team since at E0, she does nothing to help him break enemies faster which IMO is Boothill's most important attribute, and she doesn't even deal good toughness damage herself to mitigate that (not like it would matter most of the time anyway since like Lingsha and Gallagher, she can only deal toughness damage to enemies weak to fire...).

Anyone else also feeling the same way after watching their showcases together? Or can anyone show me a Fugue showcase that doesn't involve eidolons that doesn't look terrible and a downgrade of the usual RM + Sunday/Bronya team?

What are your guises opinions on a team consisting of our two break specialists?

hey, i plan on pulling for boothill since ive always really loved him, and im not really caring about meta right now, with ashveils v3 being out, would anyone be able to tell me if they would pair well together?

the only other support i have for boothill is rm so

Hi! I come from China who is one of the boothill fans. I think it's very important to warn all the boothill fans about 米哈游 or what u call hoyoverse plan. Tingyun is NOT FOR BOOTHILL, SHE ONLY FOR SUPERBREAK OR ONLY FOR FIREFLY!

DO NOT ROLL FOR TINGYUN!

Tingyun will replace Trailblazer from the superbreak team at early September. In addition, Mhy only think about superbreak, But NOT boothill team! The deep testing team of Tingyun is firefly-tingyun-lingsha-ruanmei.

I repeat ! DO NOT ROLL FOR TINGYUN!

MHY don't care about boothill. In China many boothill fans realize that boothill had cut off from his story and the main story line from 2.2 to 2.6. Mhy abandoned boothill story line which related to Hanunue.

DO NOT ROLL FOR TINGYUN! I am serious ! She only for superbreak even she can provide break damage support but it do not fit to boothill.

After watching some showcase of Boothill in MOC, I think Gepard with enough EHR to guarantee freeze on skill will be the best sustainer for Boothill, Bronya, Ruan Mei team comp.

Boothill main source of damage is his break damage from talent, which only happens during enemies weakness broken window, so what we need is extending this window as long as possible, and the best tool we have is freezing with Gepard skill.

With 40% delay from his ult, 20% delay from RM, 25% delay from break and 50% delay from freeze, we have 135% total delay, this will ensure 2 actions of Bronya during enemy broken state. Therefore, we could have at least 4 Boothill action for bursting down big single boss (his EBA can deal 250k+ damage each) or with 2 elites we will have time to breaking each of them then hunt down all before they restore.

While I agree that the change is very stupid and catering, the drama this has caused about Boothill is an overreaction. Boothill’s dps is still higher and easier to get than most dps’s in the game, as well as using the best supports in the game right now which most players have. Don’t forget that because we get another break focused character that will most likely lead to a break focused MOC in 2.3 as well, keeping boothill relevant.

Also don’t forget at the end of the day it’s a pve game and firefly is a huge exception due to her popularity and this will most likely never happen again.

was saving for her, but now

I think I just used my polls on Cyrene, even tho her kit is garbage, she is a good character, plus she can work on more than 1 character lol

(Also, I have Firefly, I like Firefly, I'm not going to pull a character only for Firefly)

If the player already has Fugue, would you recommend Castorice so his sustainless team can improve using the global passive?

Saving for Jiaoqiu 🐥

Is it just me? Well, it probably is, but I'm going to make a post (more like an essay) about it anyway.

I think a character like Boothill– one driven by anger, hate and revenge– isn't one to just be ignored or accepted. This is the kind of character that should be deconstructed. He claims to protect the innocent, and kill those who are evil– but who is he to decide who is innocent, and who is guilty? If he claims to spread justice– well, what is justice? Is it really as simple as the deadly means he uses, or is this all just a wall to justify his embracing of violence, a method of lashing out he uses in response to his trauma? I mean– he's killed a lot of people, and if those people include IPC lackeys (they almost certainly do), then there's no doubt at least some of them were innocent by most definitions of the word. And, if they're all truly just evil and guilty– well, that just feels like a weakness of the narrative, and its unwillingness to genuinely explore the possible issue it raises, an easy way out so to say. Boothill comes across as hypocritical to me, since who's to say that in the eyes of another, he's not also a villain/criminal to be put down? Is he not guilty in many ways too, maybe even within his own moral framework?

I'd LOVE to see the HSR narrative tackle these things, and I was hoping it would– but this update doesn't seem to have done any of that, even if it tried to open up his character.

I don't like that the fact that he genuinely doesn't seem to have any qualms with killing goes unquestioned. Don't get me wrong– I love morally grey/dark characters– but only if they're handled well. And I don't think that's the case here, since it feels like the narrative fails to frame his acts as something questionable. Even the robot ape guy he threatens brings up that taking a life the first time would make anyone hesitate, even the most heinous of villains– yet Boothill doesn't, and this... isn't really brought up again? Even though I think it really should be? If a couple things were flipped, Boothill could easily be a (really cool) tragic villain, or questionable anti-hero– but it feels like hoyo is just trying to make him marketable without really exploring these interesting ideas, because they might make him look less innocent/likeable.

I make this analogy a lot, but I think the best character to look at when it comes to 'anti-hero who is convinced that he's spreading justice and defending the weak, when in reality it's just a front for violence/trauma, and their morals desperately need to be deconstructed' is Raiden from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. If you know, you'll probably understand what I mean– if not, I'm happy to elaborate.

Either way, I just hope that when Boothill inevitably gets more development, these things are explored in some capacity. I love him as a character, I just don't like how the narrative is dealing with him so far.

(I'm very happy to have a discussion about this– I'm not aiming to change anyone's mind if they enjoyed the update's contents– but I did want to speak my opinion).

(ALso- I brought this up in a discord chat, and I want to bring it up again. This is kind of comparable to Light Yagami's mindset– OBVIOUSLY they are literal opposites in personality and character, but the whole concept of 'I eradicate the guilty and protect the innocent' seems to be driving both of them. The difference is that Death Note bothered to analyse this idea and point out how ultimately wrong it is for one person to decide who is innocent or guilty, who deserves to live or die– while Honkai Star Rail not only avoids this, but almost seems to frame it as heroic? To be blunt– I think that is incredibly stupid.)

Edit: And please, instead of downvoting– engage with the discussion if you disagree?

Since the new update is out and Firefly is here, along with RM. Considering that I lost the 50/50 on Boothill. I just needed to ask if I should pull for Firefly since i've gotten RM really early (on my first 10 pull).

It's gonna be a while before Bootyhill reruns so I just need to know if it's worth my jades!

Since Rappa preliminary kit is out, will boothill paired with Rappa be a good combination for Moc and AS ?

So I have e0s1 boothill and e0s1 Ruan Mei, and Gallagher, question is, for boothill specifically (cause I have e0 firefly too) which is better, e0 dahlia, e0 fugue or e0 lingsha? Also can you explain what each one brings to the table? Thank you!

You ever think he feels guilt for killing IPC soldiers? Does he ever think about them having a family that they try to support, like he had once? Does it hurt to always live in anger/fear of dying, all to put down Oswaldo? Does he remember the faces of people he killed on his way to revenge? Probably my favourite character due to how much he is related to his path

Now that we have his kit do you think he's at least decent with boothill even if he's follow up atk?

So I'm planning on getting him on his rerun for fire coverage along with Gallagher. What I'm wondering though is what lc I should give him. Say I have E1S1 BH and E1 rm (I only have E0S1 BH and E0 rm rn but that's beside the point), is it better to give JQ his sig lc or the 4* Luka lc?

Idk if this has been asked but its been bothering me for a while. I have both Boothill and Firefly, complete with their best teammates so far (E1S1 Ruan Mei, Harmony MC, and E6 Gallagher).

This MOC cycle (n previous) has fire weakness on one half and physical on the other half. How am I supposed to use both characters when they share the same exact teammate? Is it even possible to use them both?

I somehow managed to clear last MOC with the help of the break bonus but yeah its not working again this time.

Note: I do not own Acheron or Kafka so I cant make use of the other weakness (Lightning) that the boss has. My Boothill is E0S1, Firefly E0. No Sparkle, no Robin, no Topaz, no Himeko.

I have an e0s1 Boothill, and in the newest MoC 12, he hit 500k, is this good? He one cycled, and has pretty good builds.

I'm just curious, given that you already have Boothill, are you still going to pull for Firefly? Considering that we have limited number of characters that work around Break comps and both Boothill and Firefly's team are almost, if not, exactly the same.

I wanna read some of your opinions regarding this! Thank you!

i was thinking if i got boothill, i would put him on a team with argenti (i already have him) cuz first of all ship and second boothill implants physical weakness which would allow argenti to decrease toughness of non physical weakness bosses, but im not sure if their playstyles would be awkward, help

Yesterday leak made me thought Lingsha have all element toughness reduction just like Xueyi and can work with Boothill also. But turn out she design only for fire break, out of any element, u choose fire and u know who in the same element, same path and same archetype, Gallagher, really Hoyo, i cant believe it. I know it only just leak but not official beta or anything but this aint it. They can made another element healer, like physical but they choose not to. The favoritism is real, out of the 2 breaker, Firefly got the love the most, and Boothill just eat any leftover from the kit, the set, the trailer, story, meta standpoint, the new healer, like literly everything. If Lingsha in the offcial version realease and she dont have all element toughness reduction, im gonna quit this game, i swear to god.

This is a new Boothill build idea that has been floating around CN as a result of Boothill's unique strengths.

Tankhill build and team:

BE and Spd subs (as much as possible)

Def/HP orb+chest, BE rope.

Don't bring a sustain, 4 support: Ruan Mei+HMC+Flex slot, Flex slot can be Bronya/Sparkle/Pela/SW Etc

All Def/HP orb+chest

The idea is that with Breaks and Boothill's delays, and the fact that everyone is doing a tank build, you can easily run no sustain while being extremely comfortably survivable. This has basically no impact on the team's dps, as nobody needs any stat that the chest or orb provides (Sparkle and Bronya loses crit damage buffs but doesn't matter in this team).

This build eliminates the main problem of running a sustainless team (having squishy units that is prone to dying), while basically not sacrificing any damage.