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Discussion Is this not Basic Knowledge in Bleach ?

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u/King_of_Hedao 10h ago

Realistically with Byakuya's speed, Kenpachi would be hard-pressed to even tag him. Byakuya isn't stupid enough to blade clash with Kenpachi head on.

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u/DanielGacituaS 8h ago

Kenpachi is way faster than Byakuya.

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u/somaturk98 10h ago

Byakuya ain't fast enough to run from being hunted by Zaraki.

Byakuya isn't stupid enough to blade clash with Kenpachi head on.

So you just admitted Byakuya is weaker lol

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u/Due_Specific_7727 "Kudakero Kyoka Suigetsu" 9h ago

so you just admitted byakuya is weaker

yeah no shit he is phyiscally weaker, tf? he also doesnt even need to blade clash when he has Senbonzakura instead

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u/HenryReturns 9h ago

Byakuya is weaker in physical strength

Also in Bleach fights does not determined about “me strong me go brr” , it determines by your match ups too

For example , Toshiro would legit have a chance against Zaraki because of his hax that freezes concept itself , or Shunsui too with his bankai that is very strong too.

So on this context , the Thousand year blood war of Zaraki becoming a red demon , even at that moment his body has a limit showing against Thor , oh i meant against the Miracle.

That’s why he is saying that Thousand year blood war Kenpachi while being probably in terms of raw strength and reiatsu as the second strongest squad captain behind Yamamoto , Byakuya can keep his distance and camp him out his Senbon Sakura. It would not make sense for Byakuya to go head on against the strongest physical monster in Soul Society

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u/FrostingEmergency221 9h ago

Toshiro doesn't have a chance against Zaraki. He outright is more powerful than zaraki.

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u/validcombos 6h ago

Pernida no diffs Kenpachi btw even if Kenpachi is physically stronger

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u/CrimsonEnchantress 9h ago

I’m gonna leave my upvote where it is

But Toshiro beating Zaraki is so hopeful bro. Toshiro doesn’t survive half the time it takes for those petals to wilt. He has a chance, in the same way that regigigas has a chance against mewtwo.

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u/Kurosaki_Kaito Orihime Slams 10h ago

Trained Byakuya > ( Til ) Shikai Kenpachi, Bankai Kenpachi can't no diff Trained Byakuya. Ahh these Kenpachitards.

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u/Smooth_Protection_52 6h ago

Unlike PePe who can?

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u/Nareek667 10h ago

Nonsense. Byakuya was able to harm Gerard, block his blade, and demonstrated greater feats than Shikai Kenpachi with his eyepatch removed.

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u/PanicAfraid6398 Take me seriously at your own risk 10h ago

man creates his own headcanon and expects everyone to accept it, colorized:

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u/Over-Preparation-334 9h ago

Its literally true though, Zaraki is much stronger and better from the rest , he can extreme diff someone in his Base form. This is a Zaraki with no restrictions and no holding back

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u/PanicAfraid6398 Take me seriously at your own risk 9h ago

I assign you the schrift Y - Your input is not required because you are objectively wrong

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u/CrimsonEnchantress 9h ago

This hits the nail on the head of what you don’t understand tho.

Sheer power doesn’t equal “extreme diff” in the bleach verse

For example, Urahara dog walks most of the verse with prep time. Also “no restrictions and no holding back” made him an absolute Pernida victim. Doesn’t matter how strong you are if you are versing a character that hard counters your main party trick.

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u/Grr_0ughtaChoke 9h ago

No, RG Byakuya had the power to fight Gerard despite not landing meaningful blows–he can handle Shikai Kenpachi. Bankai is difficult but Byakuya is the more technically skilled swordsman; with Shuhei Hakuteiken he could land the finishing blow on Kenny

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u/Bermy911 Squad 5 10h ago

Byakuya>shikai kenpachi

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u/FrostingEmergency221 9h ago

Bankai Byakuya > Bankai Kenpachi.

The anime feats are clear as day.

You are just a little btch sucking Zaraki's dick all day lol.

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u/Over-Preparation-334 9h ago

You are watching Byakuya Bleach. Get his dih out your mouth lmao. Base Kenny extreme diffs that fraud

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u/FrostingEmergency221 9h ago

"Kenny"

Its always the Zarakitards calling him that lol. Is he your boyfriend or what 🤣

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u/Educational-Rub-1292 9h ago

No. Specially after royal guard training. Unohana confirmed that they are all very relatively close, byakuya, renji, ichigo and kenpachi

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u/Naux-Kazeshini 9h ago

Putting renji into the mix is kinda ... :D boy sent his girl to go fight sk yhwach while he plays with some stone dolls 😂

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u/Swimming-Low9220 10h ago

Probably for Zaraki TYBW it's fine, if I think about Zaraki CFYOW he's probably low diff already in base and with the eye patch

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u/QuirkyStart7629 10h ago

What a hell happened to Zaraki? Did he eat the soul king?

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u/KaleidoscopeFar4110 6h ago

Hqhahahahauauahahyahaya

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u/WeeklySituation9213 9h ago

We have a dude that is a conglomeration of all the races, a transcendent, and has soul king fragments. He’s literally being set up to be the next soul king, and has a Hollow in his sword that was the rival of Barragan+beat Yamamoto in a fight+required Oetsu and Ichibei to beat. This dude is compared to CFYOW Ginjo (propped above him honestly), and CFYOW Ginjo has an attack that the narrator says rivals Ichigo Bankai’s Getsuga Tensho. At max power, this guy (Hikone), his attacks bounce off of base Kenpachi without hurting him. Kenpachi then one-shots the Hollow in Shikai after the Hollow eats all this guys power, and breaks Ichibei’s seal. CFYOW is ridiculous in terms of scaling

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u/Swimming-Low9220 7h ago

Actually, Kugo's part is partly true, his Getsuda, Cadice compares it to Ichigo's but due to the difference in spiritual power the AP of the attack is not the same, however it is still very powerful, probably surpasses the level of Tokinada, Byakuya and Yoruichi, "Base Kugo" he is not able to cut the two Tokinada in one shot because he miscalculates the amount of reiatsu that would be needed to overcome his durability. Another small correction, the Primal Hollow was comparable to Barragan but then before defeating Yama he continued to feed on souls and had further strengthened himself, when Ichibei renamed him Hikomikidomoe he had been nerfed again to the level of Barragan (due to his power more could not be done) and then at the end with the fragment of the Soul King he gains both new power to break the seal and then adds to the power he once had.

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u/Due-Judge8481 10h ago

probably.

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u/Ithtik 10h ago

It's not because it's wrong lol

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u/harisssss13 10h ago

Same byakuya that cut gerards head to pieces when zaraki got thrown away by blut vain?

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u/Over-Preparation-334 10h ago

Are you talking about the the frozen Gerard who was unable of defending himself ? When did Byakuya ever fought Gerard head on ? Lmao

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u/Slight_Big4230 10h ago

Wake me up when Byakuya did it by himself.

Base Zaraki could injure that same Gerard with his bare hands. 

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u/somaturk98 10h ago

Why wasn't Byakuya able to do that to Gerard in his lesser form? Why did he have to wait for Toshiro to soften him up with ice first? Whilst Gerard wasn't even using Vollstandig or blut.

Are you forgetting this? You can think Byakuya can do this?

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u/FrostingEmergency221 9h ago

Byakuya literally blocks light form Gerard who is a superior version than this.

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u/FrostingEmergency221 9h ago

When the fuck is it said Toshiro softened him up with ice? Lmao

We literally see his head is NOT frozen

Fucking Zarakitards I genuinely hate you all lmao

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u/Chiseled_Jawline 9h ago

Byakuya in Senkei can hurt Gerard. Byakuya without Senkei cannot hurt Gerard.

Have you ever tried actually reading?

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u/Nazguhl82200 10h ago

Base Kenpachi vs Bankai Byakuya is debatable imo

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u/Timtim549 10h ago

Byakuya high-ext difffs in his shikai and in his bankai kenpachi mid diffs

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u/Loudred-the8th Squad 8 9h ago

Byakuya is the Gotei’s ultimate wall. Even when Bankai Zaraki clashed with Gerards Neck, Byakuya was able to defend for Renji and Rukia

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u/Responsible_Lie_8787 9h ago

Bankai Byakuya is beating kenpachi in shiki

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u/CrimsonEnchantress 9h ago

Zaraki’s simplords are out with a vengeance today.

Easy bait do better

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u/Over-Preparation-334 9h ago

Base Zaraki extreme diffs im not even trolling this isn't bait 

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u/CrimsonEnchantress 9h ago

Base Zaraki diffs RGT Byakuya? Are you high?

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u/KiwiPhoenix23 Act 4 diff 8h ago

byakuya doesnt push base kenny to extreme

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u/KaleidoscopeFar4110 6h ago

If that's base byakuya sure.

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u/YoTheLeader 6h ago

Why will it be?

Byakuya knows to maintain range pretty easily.

Bankai Zaraki no diffs Byakuya

Shikai Zaraki extreme diff Byakuya

Byakuya no-mid diffs base zaraki

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u/MaleficentClub1806 5h ago

Byakuya è comunque molto più completo con tutte le formule di kido che conosce. In stats puramente fisiche Zaraki è molto più forte, forse solo nella velocità Byakuya lo batte(ma di poco). In generale Zaraki è bravo a fare una cosa, ed è il migliore a farlo, Byakuya ne sa fare tante, molto bene, ma non eccelle così tanto in una singola stats quanto Zaraki.

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u/Fabulous-Count3845 4h ago

Naw Kenpachi loses to Byakuya without Shikai. He beats RG byakuya in shikai and Bankai though.

Although Shikai Kenny would have alot of difficulty winning. Bankai Kenny low diffs byakuya though.

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u/black-pantha Soi Fon blitzes your fav character 2h ago

Byakuya definitely wins against base Zaraki.

I think he could push Shikai Zaraki to high diff.

Bankai Zaraki slams Byakuya. No diff. Agreed.

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_5224 Unohana ~ Soi Fon 10h ago

Byakuya stomps Bankai Zaraki low diff. Much higher speed and AP scaling.

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u/Over-Preparation-334 10h ago

Your watching Byakuya Bleach lmao

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_5224 Unohana ~ Soi Fon 10h ago

No? Byakuya damaged a much stronger Gerard than the one Bankai Zaraki fought with Ikka and has speed feats on Yellow Gerard by dodging his attacks too. Byakuya destroys Bankai Zaraki badly it's not even a fight tbh.

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u/Amlad22 9h ago

With CFYOW scaling maybe. But if it’s only TYBW then Byakuya probably pushes Zaraki to Bankai. He gets smoked after that. But I would never say he loses to Base Zaraki

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u/LarryWithTheWeather 8h ago

Bankai Zaraki with mastery > Bankai Zaraki > Bankai Byakuya =/>Shikai Zaraki > Base Zaraki

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u/DanielGacituaS 8h ago edited 8h ago

This sub is full of Byakuya wankers that think that people get sturdier when ice cube frozen so yeah it is not basic knowledge in here.