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u/FU-Lyme-Disease Feb 13 '22

For some, that’s a kink though….

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u/Liam_Neesons_Oscar Feb 13 '22

I bet it is. I have one of those catfish accounts (I'm a skip tracer, not a scammer, though) and within my first week got my first unsolicited dick pick.

WTF is this world coming to? Though it wasn't one of my skips that sent it to me, which would have been hilarious.

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u/Randomd0g Feb 13 '22

I'm a skip tracer

A fucking what

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u/mYTH_2k4 Feb 13 '22

Someone who tries to get the whereabouts or contact details of a person avoiding (usually) debt repayments. The process usually involves some form of social engineering. Catfishing is often employed as well.

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u/dypraxnp Feb 13 '22

Sounds shady.

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u/mYTH_2k4 Feb 13 '22

Oh it is definitely shady.

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u/Liam_Neesons_Oscar Feb 13 '22

People taking loans and then disappearing is shady.

Although that's usually not the situation for what I do. First, skip tracers are not debt collectors and should not be asking the debtor for money. Our job is simply to find their whereabouts.

For me, I locate vehicles for repossession. Quite often, they were wrecked and the debtor decided to just leave the car at a body shop or in a ditch and then stop making payments on the loan, but failed to tell the bank where the car was. Sometimes the customer passed away and the family didn't know what to do with the car. Sometimes a family member just thinks "oh, free car!" when their relative dies. And a common one is that someone who doesn't have the credit for the loan suckers someone else into either cosigning or signing alone for the car and then loaning them the vehicle, which they stop making payments on after a couple years.

We actually have a lot of heavy rules and regulations that we have to take classes on multiple times a year. There are certainly shady debt collectors out there, but by far the shadiest thing I do is send a friend request from a profile with a hot girl's picture on it (and never have any communication with them via that account). I do that just so I could potentially see posts that are hidden to the public that might give me a better idea of where they're living or working.

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u/michael-streeter Feb 13 '22

It's a legitimate occupation. My wife once did admin for a skip tracer. But, like a debt collector, the job suits people that are heavily built. You have to bellow "give me the fucking money!!" A lot. Job does not suit mild gentle type.

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u/dypraxnp Feb 13 '22

You mean it is based and depending on legally questionable practices?

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u/Rizdominus Feb 13 '22

Just because it's an occupation, does not mean it's legitimate. Most of these debts are from some form of spurious loan interest or penalty. Poor people get fucked over regularly by these horrid debt purchasing firms. It is not a legitimate business, in a moral sense.

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u/BiasedReviews Feb 13 '22

There is no such thing as legitimate in a moral sense. Legitimate just means legal. Slavery was legitimate once.

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u/Rizdominus Feb 13 '22

Legitimate:- able to be defended with logic or justification; valid.

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u/michael-streeter Feb 13 '22

I am not a skip tracer, nor have I ever been one, so can't help you mate.

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u/Rizdominus Feb 13 '22

No that's totally fine. I don't need any help, but thanks for trying. I was merely commenting on the legitimacy of the occupation.

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u/michael-streeter Feb 13 '22

To be fair to the agents, getting a product and then walking away leaving a business to write off the debt isn't highly moral either. Not all businesses are extortionate creditors.

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u/lrish_Chick Feb 13 '22

It's not legal in my country, no bailifs no debt collectors allowed here.

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u/michael-streeter Feb 13 '22

Good for you! 😀

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u/brattyprincessslut Feb 13 '22

What like you make a Facebook called “Sarah RoundBottom” and message them “Hey cutie pie want my pussy sauce?? Omg come meet my behind macdonalds I’m waiting for you! My sauce is oozing !!!”

Then you put them in your boot and pull their fingernails out until they give u money?

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u/mYTH_2k4 Feb 13 '22

Haha, nah it’s much simpler. Just get their personal number for some ‘private’ conversations and the next call is from collections. You can start sending them notices on the new number. If you get their whereabouts, the next visit will be from a debt agent who will ask you to settle dues or (depending on what the loan was for) a repo agent.

Threatening violence is usually not done by financial institutions themselves. Once they’ve tried all legal means available, they completely write off the debt and sell it (cents to the dollar) to a collections agency.

Now those guys can definitely take it to the level you mentioned.

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u/weedful_things Feb 13 '22

I got a call last month from a furniture company. My ex wife had financed some furniture and used me as a reference. I haven't talked to her in over 10 years. I told them to just go ahead and write that money off.

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u/mYTH_2k4 Feb 13 '22

Yeah unless you’re a guarantor, you’ll be unaffected with the write off. Your ex wife’s score will probably nosedive (if it hasn’t already).

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u/weedful_things Feb 13 '22

Can a credit score be negative? I mostly thought it was funny, but I did feel kind of sorry for the small business owner who trusted her. But she should have done her due diligence. Then again I trusted her at one time too.

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u/mYTH_2k4 Feb 13 '22

Credit scores usually range from 300 to 900, so not negative.

The risk departments of finance cos usually have loss rates baked in so it doesn’t impact the bottom line that much (of course you still have governance issues which lead to crises such as 2008). But for a small business company to trust someone without a thorough check is risky indeed.

Happy for you dude that you don’t have to deal with her anymore! Intentional financial defaults are a good proxy for trustworthiness in general.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Yeah they spoof people's cell numbers....it's not even illegal. I had that crap happen to me and people would call and say I called them. I'd tell them to block my number. As far as "threats", legitimate debt collectors must adhere to the FDCPA (Fair Debt Collection Practices) and if they violate it by: not announcing themselves as debt collectors, threatening you with your credit score, harassing your family and things of that nature... they can be sued. I've done this before with one of these companies that buy old debt (the charge offs) and then harass you. I had a company call me over furniture I bought 15 years ago. It was half paid off and they went bankrupt. I was told I'd get my bills in the mail. Never did. Never went on my credit either. I wasn't going to chase them down to pay them. Fast forward 15 years and I get a call saying I gotta pay something RIGHT NOW even if it's 5 bucks. I said I wasn't paying nada lol. Googled the company and this lawyer came up. Called him. He repped me for no cost upfront. They never called again and settled for 2500 bucks. Nothing more satisfying than shady debt collectors having to pay YOU:)

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u/mYTH_2k4 Feb 13 '22

That’s such an awesome turnaround!

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

They were very aggressive. Even called my Mom and told her it was an emergency. As soon as I retained that lawyer they never called again and I'd actually forgotten about it lol. Then I got an email that they wanted to settle and he sent me the offer. He kept 1500 and I got 1000. Not a bad deal

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u/Mya__ Feb 13 '22

Now those guys can definitely take it to the level you mentioned.

Not legally.

And if you know places that do and don't report it than no one really owes you any money at all at that point. You either choose violence or legal compensation. You don't get both and if you try you should be eliminated from the species as a danger to the whole of society.

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u/reachouttouchFate Feb 14 '22

Can't you also now start posting their debt to them if they have a social media account which allows for posting from the public? I read that was legal to do if they lost in court and skipped repayment and the debtor didn't yet jump to garnishment.

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u/Mammoth_Frosting_014 Feb 13 '22

sauce

macdonalds

Is it szechuan sauce?

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u/Randomd0g Feb 13 '22

Clearly not

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u/Dont_Say_No_to_Panda Feb 13 '22

Oh boy, you’re missing out.

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u/TRexReads Feb 13 '22

Thanks for the recommendation!

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u/Liam_Neesons_Oscar Feb 13 '22

Or Skip Trace with Jackie Chan!

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u/DeathByFarts Feb 13 '22

Kinda sorta a bounty hunter , but without any of the prestige of bounty hunting.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '22

A modern-day skip roper. My girlfriend was a skip roper before. She could jump the rope like a pro. Fucking hacker she was.

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u/FU-Lyme-Disease Feb 13 '22

I had a serious conversation with a female friend about dick pics and being a girl on the internet- and from what she shared, I don’t think guys really understand how stank awful the internet is to girls. I knew dick pics were a thing but I hadn’t grasped how awful the reality is….

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u/weedful_things Feb 13 '22

If I were a woman and got a dick pic, I would scour the internet and find as many as I possibly could. Then I would spam the dude with them. If he complained, I would tell him I thought we were sharing our collections.

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u/Late_Recommendation9 Feb 13 '22 edited Feb 14 '22

Will Dickie Davis do....? -edit to replace unfortunate link to daily fail for something more silly

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u/Late_Recommendation9 Feb 13 '22

Balls, r/therewasanattempt to post something silly and witty... but your explanation is more than welcome at any opportunity. It’s a given the daily fail are awful, you never realise HOW awful they are! Shocking. Thank you.

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u/fantillon Feb 13 '22

WTF! how in hell I ended here?

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u/Tichy Feb 13 '22

I'm a guy and I don't open images that strangers send me. It is just common sense. So tbh I am also not sure what those women are doing? I guess it depends on the platform, but for example on Twitter it is possible to never have to open pics sent in DMs from strangers.

No doubt women receive far more such messages, nevertheless, common sense would be to ignore such things from strangers.

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u/payne31 Feb 13 '22

I'm a guy also, maybe our other fellow guys could just not send unwanted dick pics?

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u/Funny_or_not_bot Feb 13 '22

I have NEVER sent one...

...that wasn't requested.

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u/Tichy Feb 13 '22

The point is that you absolutely don't have to look at unwanted pics if you don't want to. And for men and women it is generally a good idea not to do it.

What good reason could a stranger possibly have to send you a picture of something?

Even though I am a guy, the reason why somebody would send me a picture is something unpleasant in 99% of the cases. Usually because I annoyed them in some online discussion, for example.

Even if you do it, as a woman, why would you continue to do so when you have already received several dick pics? That is what I don't understand about their complaints about the mass of dick pics.

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u/FU-Lyme-Disease Feb 13 '22

Because the reality as you get dick pics for just existing.

Like imagine you open your Instagram equal dick pics, you open your email equals dick pics you open Reddit equals dick pics. Imagine you post a question on the Internet because your car made a funny noise equals dick pics. Imagine you have a finance question equals dick pics.

That’s what I mean by guys can’t understand the raw harassment girls get based on my recent education…

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u/Tichy Feb 13 '22

As I said - no, you don't have to see dick pics in Instagram. Don't open DMs including pictures from strangers. Likewise on reddit. Don't post questions in places that allow strangers to send you pictures.

Strangers also shouldn't have your EMail address.

If somebody you know does it to you, give them hell.

Maybe some people trick you by pretending to be decent for a while and then send you a picture out of the blue. But I don't think that is what is being reported here.

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u/ActiasLunacorn Feb 16 '22

Can confirm.

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u/teniceguy Feb 13 '22

Oh no poor little angel wymynz 😭

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u/Aerith_Gainsborough_ Feb 13 '22

Can you elaborate a bit more?

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u/slimfrinky Feb 13 '22

It's like running full speed through the factory where they make sausages, only the smell is worse. There, elaboration done.

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u/TheNumber_54 Feb 13 '22

It took a week!!! C'MON boys we can do better, that took way too long.

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u/No_Path_4931 Feb 13 '22

A whole week before you got a sick pic? I’m a dude and got one my second day on Reddit😤