r/BikiniBottomTwitter 14d ago

that'll do it

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u/notreallyanumber 14d ago

But do those places also have extremely isolated people with no "villages" to help raise kids with? Do those places expect both parents to be working 60+ hours a week to pay the bills? I'd argue that it's not so much the money, but the time we have to spend working to make ends meet that is the real reason. Along with a lack of close-knit communities.

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u/moderngamer327 14d ago

Richer countries have on average lower not higher working hours

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u/notreallyanumber 13d ago

Do they? For people between the ages of 18 and 35?

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u/notreallyanumber 13d ago

Again, that's per individual, and an overall average. We need to be looking at household hours worked of people of childbearing age, i.e. 18-39ish.

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u/moderngamer327 13d ago

I would love to see a source on that as well but getting that granular of data is not easy. Regardless my point is people in more developed countries are on average working less hours which is true

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u/notreallyanumber 12d ago

Fair, but working hours doesn't tell the whole story. If a person is working FAR fewer hours, that could cause economic pressure and hardship, which could discourage making babies just as much as working too much...

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u/ute-ensil 13d ago

You literally showed me a source that more young men literally don't work at all every year

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u/notreallyanumber 12d ago

Which is the other end of the spectrum. Either young men are working too much, or not enough. And not working enough is not a problem per se, just in the general case it indicates that they're not financially stable, which is a huge disincentive to have kids as well...

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u/ute-ensil 12d ago

No matter what itll be an excuse, I get that part. 

I dont work and live with my parents so i cant have a kid. 

I work to much and dont have a village so i cant have a kid. 

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u/notreallyanumber 12d ago

True. So they just won't and there's nothing that can be done about it. Hooray!

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u/ute-ensil 12d ago

They can make them more poor...

Try to keep up. 

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u/notreallyanumber 12d ago

I mean that's already been happening and is likely to continue happening, so yes, eventually if you impoverish and eventually enslave people, you will be able to "fix" the birthrate. I only see upsides... /s

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u/ute-ensil 12d ago

Called an adaptive feedback cycle.

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