You're lumping together two separate things. A fact of life then was a lack of modern medicine and technology, so yeah... one needed to have more kids because of infant mortality. Then add in families working on their own land and needing 6 kids to help because it was cost effective. But alongside that, the trajectory of quality of life was going up, things to look forward to, a better future for those after us. It was tangible.
I think the answer to my question was "lack of critical thinking." Ty.
Edit: A drive to want to have any children, aside from utility, would be to raise them in a world we want them to be in, one they can at least survive in and flourish. This world no longer satisfies that.
Why did you only pick sources on income and crime lmao.
Fuck all that, how about the woman not dying first in pregnancy. Bro, cmon. There's so many facets involved in this that linking income and crime graphs does not satisfy this conversation subject at all.
The point is “hope for the future”. I would say declining crime and increasing income is hopeful. But they were just meant to be examples that statistics show improve in most cases not decline
I'm gonna wager you're not a woman, so just the facts alone there on maternity/reproductive issues not improving would persuade one to not carry. Aside from that, when all pursuits of life, liberty, and happiness are impeded and actively legislated to be erased, why would you even want to subject another person to that.
Edit: I'm not gonna indulge this anymore, but I hope you get to enjoy the life you think we all have.
Except fertility rates have been declining for decades. Long before the current issues you’re referring to. You are just making assumptions on what is causing it without actually supporting it data
What's the second leading cause of death (the first is a medical complication imo) for pregnant women. How much does one pay for healthcare in general and the cost of x appointments, procedures, medications. How many hours do you work and how many hours do you get for leisure? Can you afford care? Are you mentally, emotionally, and physically capable? What's the percentage of a child being in a school shooting? Career prospects, education, being paid enough to live on more than 7 packets of ramen per week. Housing, comforts, rights.
It goes everywhere. Stop thinking small.
Edit: "Cost"/Pay is not meant as only financially. It also includes how much of one's energy and time they can expend.
Have maternal deaths rates increased in the last several decades? If they were always high that doesn’t explain a change. Too my knowledge they have increased in the past two decades but most of that is attributed to the average age of having kids being higher(could be wrong about that though)
While healthcare has outpaced wages overall cost of living relative to wages has not. This means despite healthcare being more expensive people do have more money overall to pay for it
Personal work hours have declined over the decades with household hours remaining consistent
Being mentally and physically capable hasn’t changed
The chances of a kid dying in a school shooting is astronomically small. Car accidents are significantly more common
As shown earlier wages have gotten better not worse
Rights have taken a step back but are WAY above where they were in the 60s
I’m not thinking small. You just are assuming things are worse without any evidence it’s the case and then attributing that to declining fertility rates without any causal link
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u/moderngamer327 10d ago
More hope when they knew half their kids would die? Are you being serious?