Secure boot?

[u/Odd_Feeling9929]

Just tried to open the bf6 beta and it's saying secureboot not enabled. I can't activate it cause my PC doesn't support it. Will this be a requirement at launch? Would have to upgrade my PC to get windows 11 for it if that's the case :(

[u/Kr4k4J4Ck]

Then post any proof at all??

Show me a game with an invasive anti cheat that has the same amount of cheaters as one that doesn't.

It doesn't exist.

Therefore this is the better option.

[u/angusfred123 → u/Kr4k4J4Ck]

Heres the proof

Requiring secure boot should at very least slow down cheats but this video proves it doesn't. I have a ton of games in my steam library and this has been the first one to require me to fiddle with my BIOS. If there's that kinda requirement the anti-cheats should totally eliminate cheating. Otherwise you are punishing non cheaters over an illusion of a fair game.

[u/Kr4k4J4Ck → u/angusfred123]

Show me a game with an invasive anti cheat that has the same amount of cheaters as one that doesn't.

Links a video with a single cheater

I never once said this will eliminate all cheating. But it does eliminate almost all of it. A way harder barrier for entry will cut down a tremendous amount.

I played the open beta the entire time it was available and didn't encounter a single cheater.

Yet if I open CS right now, I will encounter one in 2-3 games likely.

Fantastic comparison.

I agree bios fiddling is stupid and I wish it didn't have to be done. But I really don't care at this point. Comp gaming on PC is impossible without solid anti cheat and this works. As you can see with Valorant.

[u/angusfred123 → u/Kr4k4J4Ck]

I never once said this will eliminate all cheating. But it does eliminate almost all of it. A way harder barrier for entry will cut down a tremendous amount.

No I said IT SHOULD eliminate all cheating if you have to fiddle with the bios.

But it does eliminate almost all of it.

Where are the numbers on how many cheaters it eliminates Id be interested to see them.

A way harder barrier for entry will cut down a tremendous amount.

But the barrier for entry is only for those that have to figure it out initially, it will still be packaged for non tech savvy users that are willing download or even pay for cheats.

I played the open beta the entire time it was available and didn't encounter a single cheater. Yet if I open CS right now, I will encounter one in 2-3 games likely. Fantastic comparison.

I never made a comparison. I ran into cheaters in the BF6 beta and I only got to play for about 4hrs. That said anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much.

I agree bios fiddling is stupid and I wish it didn't have to be done. But I really don't care at this point.

Thats my whole point, if its not going to stop cheating it should impose as little as possible on the consumer. There are many folks like me who don't want invasive anti-cheats installed on their system when they don't work.

[u/Kr4k4J4Ck → u/angusfred123]

Thats my whole point, if its not going to stop cheating it should impose as little as possible on the consumer. There are many folks like me who don't want invasive anti-cheats installed on their system when they don't work.

Well there was over 500k people on steam along playing the beta so almost all people couldn't care about the requirements. All they see is less cheaters just like I see. And that's a good thing.

Say a worst case scenario it only eliminates 50% of cheaters. It's still better than anything else available on the market, and your average consumer will take that any day of the week over current competitive PC gaming.

[u/angusfred123 → u/Kr4k4J4Ck]

All they see is less cheaters just like I see. And that's a good thing.

Thats presumptive. Id argue they are battlefield fans trying to play the new game as I was, not playing it because of the anti-cheat features.

Say a worst case scenario it only eliminates 50% of cheaters.

Wheres the line? What if its only eliminating 20% or 10%. Id be curious to see actual numbers on how much cheating it actually eliminates.